Falsehoods Unchallenged Only Fester and Grow
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I’ve seen nothing that says anti-fa was at the Capitol that day, have you? There were no skirmishes except with police.
Jordan Fischer
@JordanOnRecord
Next up is the sentencing hearing for Florida Oath Keepers leader Kelly Meggs. DOJ wants 21 years, but 18 is probably the ceiling now.
Supposed to start at 1:30 but that may be delayed a bit since Rhodes went long.
Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
HAPPENING NOW: MEHTA is preparing to sentence Oath Keeper Kelly MEGGS for his conviction on seditious conspiracy. Mehta has agreed to add a terrorism enhancement to Meggs' sentence, though not as steep as the one he gave Stewart RHODES, who Mehta says "stands apart."
@kyledcheney
Kelly MEGGS now addressing Judge Mehta, talking primarily about how his actions on Jan. 6 has destroyed his family, his life and his future. He says he's only ever told the truth about what happened on Jan. 6 (he opted not to testify in his trial).
Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
MEGGS now telling his version of Jan. 6 that he declined to say on the stand. Says there was no plan to go inside the Capitol and that he is the one who deviated from the plan and took his people inside.
Meggs is now directly addressing Officer Dunn, who is in the room, and says he apologizes if he caused him any fear that day. A US marshal steps in and tells Meggs to stop gesturing toward the gallery.
@JordanOnRecord
SENTENCE: Kelly Meggs, the former leader of the Oath Keepers' Florida state chapter who led a stack of militia members into the U.S. Capitol, ordered to serve 12 years in prison for sedition and multiple other conspiracy counts.
No doubt Stern has some opinions on Yale Law's curve, "Gentlemen's C," etc.pipistrelle wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:46 amGetting into college is one thing. Passing courses is another.sterngard friegen wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:26 am Hoping this Yale Law graduate gets at least 10 years. He is so stupid that I suspect Yale let him in based on his military service. Bad move.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... -rcna85852Oath Keepers founder sentenced to 18 years in Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy case
Stewart Rhodes, who said after the Capitol attack that the rioters “should have brought rifles," received the longest sentence of any Jan. 6 defendant to date.
May 25, 2023, 4:59 PM UTC / Updated May 25, 2023, 8:37 PM UTC
By Ryan J. Reilly, Daniel Barnes and Gary Grumbach
WASHINGTON — The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers has been sentenced to 18 years in federal prison in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol following his conviction on seditious conspiracy. The sentence for Stewart Rhodes is the longest imposed on a Jan. 6 defendant to date. In a politically-charged speech in the courtroom just before his sentencing, he called himself a "political prisoner" and said that when he talked about "regime change" in a phone call with supporters earlier this week, he meant he hopes that former President Donald Trump will win in 2024.
The judge disagreed that Rhodes had been locked up for politics, saying it was his actions that led to his criminal convictions. “You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy," Judge Amit Mehta said before handing down the sentence. Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy in November along with Kelly Meggs, a fellow Oath Keepers member.
"They won't fear us until we come with rifles in hand," Rhodes wrote in a message ahead of the Jan. 6 attack. After the attack, in a recording that was played in court during his trial, he said his only regret was that they “should have brought rifles.” Wearing an orange prison jumpsuit Thursday, Rhodes said he believes the only crime he committed was opposing those who are “destroying our country.”
Mehta told Rhodes that he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy “not because of your beliefs, not because you supported the other guy, not because Joe Biden is president right now,” but because of the facts of the case, and his actions before, during and after Jan. 6. “You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes,” he said.
An upgraded Ghoul in Dungeons & Dragons?
Two more Oath Keepers are set to be sentenced today: Jessica Watkins, of Ohio, and Kenneth Harrelson, of Florida. Unlike both defendants sentenced yesterday, Watkins and Harrelson were acquitted of seditious conspiracy.
On the other hand, Watkins was the most personally violent on J6, leading a group of 7 OKs as they pushed up a corridor toward the Senate floor against a column of riot police. She also brought to J6 a group of 3 other militia recruits from OH, arguably making her a "leader."
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Sentencing today at 930am in Capitol riot OathKeepers case of Roberto Minuta of NY
Feds will seek 17 years prison, arguing.. "In his own words, he was prepared to die for his cause, and on January 6, as part of "Stack Two", he led other Oath Keepers in storming into the Capitol"
I can't believe he got only 4.5 years. I have seriously reduced my expectations about these criminals getting sentences that indicate the seriousness of their behavior, but jeezus this is depressing.Dave from down under wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:53 pm You have been naughty
This tap on the wrist is your punishment
Next time you try to violently overthrow democracy there will be sterner words!
Kellye SoRelle, an attorney who represented the far-right Oath Keepers militia, has been found incompetent to stand trial for the charges against her, reported CBS News' Scott MacFarlane on Thursday.
"In court proceeding just now, Judge Amit Mehta reveals a competency issue has been raised in criminal case of one-time Oath Keepers attorney and current Jan 6 defendant Kellye Sorelle," said MacFarlane on Twitter. "'Restoration' process being discussed now. She’s not in pretrial custody. Could delay case."
Mehta, MacFarlane continued, "says there’s been a conclusion reached that Oath Keepers lawyer Kellye Sorelle is 'incompetent' in case, but judge says no full report is available yet, nor is there 'recommendation for restoration' yet. Sorelle has co-defendants in Jan 6 case. Case could proceed without her."
Possibly; I wouldn't be surprised if they tried.
Sometimes, SovCits spouting extreme nonsense can earn themselves a competency evaluation, usually to appeal-proof the proceedings. Neither the Raw Story article nor anything else I could find have any hint as to whether she's simply trapped in SovCit delusion or whether there's a clinical issue at work.Greatgrey wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:45 pm https://www.rawstory.com/oath-keepers-a ... al-report/
Kellye SoRelle, an attorney who represented the far-right Oath Keepers militia, has been found incompetent to stand trial for the charges against her, reported CBS News' Scott MacFarlane on Thursday.
"In court proceeding just now, Judge Amit Mehta reveals a competency issue has been raised in criminal case of one-time Oath Keepers attorney and current Jan 6 defendant Kellye Sorelle," said MacFarlane on Twitter. "'Restoration' process being discussed now. She’s not in pretrial custody. Could delay case."
Mehta, MacFarlane continued, "says there’s been a conclusion reached that Oath Keepers lawyer Kellye Sorelle is 'incompetent' in case, but judge says no full report is available yet, nor is there 'recommendation for restoration' yet. Sorelle has co-defendants in Jan 6 case. Case could proceed without her."
johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:07 pmSometimes, SovCits spouting extreme nonsense can earn themselves a competency evaluation, usually to appeal-proof the proceedings. Neither the Raw Story article nor anything else I could find have any hint as to whether she's simply trapped in SovCit delusion or whether there's a clinical issue at work.
Those defendants would not be any of the January 6 folks. As best as I can tell, she has only one case in federal court where she was representing someone and that was Latinos for Trump in which she was joined by that goofball Paul Davis.
Someone said she's deep into conspiracy theories. Eh, so are a lot of people. Doesn't seem to stop them from being tried.johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:07 pmSometimes, SovCits spouting extreme nonsense can earn themselves a competency evaluation, usually to appeal-proof the proceedings. Neither the Raw Story article nor anything else I could find have any hint as to whether she's simply trapped in SovCit delusion or whether there's a clinical issue at work.Greatgrey wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:45 pm https://www.rawstory.com/oath-keepers-a ... al-report/
Kellye SoRelle, an attorney who represented the far-right Oath Keepers militia, has been found incompetent to stand trial for the charges against her, reported CBS News' Scott MacFarlane on Thursday.
"In court proceeding just now, Judge Amit Mehta reveals a competency issue has been raised in criminal case of one-time Oath Keepers attorney and current Jan 6 defendant Kellye Sorelle," said MacFarlane on Twitter. "'Restoration' process being discussed now. She’s not in pretrial custody. Could delay case."
Mehta, MacFarlane continued, "says there’s been a conclusion reached that Oath Keepers lawyer Kellye Sorelle is 'incompetent' in case, but judge says no full report is available yet, nor is there 'recommendation for restoration' yet. Sorelle has co-defendants in Jan 6 case. Case could proceed without her."
SENTENCE: Kelly Meggs, the former leader of the Oath Keepers' Florida state chapter who led a stack of militia members into the U.S. Capitol, ordered to serve 12 years in prison for sedition and multiple other conspiracy counts.