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Rolodex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:23 pm Brandi is pretty much quoting the plaintiff's closing. It's devastating and heart-wrenching; well worth the read.


Plaintiff's attorney has had the easiest job in the world in this case. Already found liable for defamation and he is pointing out all the things Rudy's attorney hasn't done or said - bc there's really just no defense that doesn't involve lies. I hope the jury smashes the multi-million hammer down on him...like, this afternoon.

As the jury deliberates how much Rudy Giuliani will have to pay for defaming former Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, a former Georgia prosecutor says that Giuliani and his attorney may be trying to play the long game.

"Any time you concede liability in a trial to focus on damages, it's a difficult situation," said former Georgia prosecutor Chris Timmons, an ABC News contributor. "What they appear to be doing is suggesting the damages aren't that serious -- or at least aren't seven figures."

But Timmons suggested that a broader strategy might be at play -- one that protects Giuliani from legal exposure in other criminal matters and leaves open the door for appealing the result of this trial.

"Strategically, keeping Mr. Giuliani off the stand was a smart move when you look at this case in the context of his overall legal exposure," Timmons said. "If Mr. Giuliani had testified, his testimony would be admissible in all of his other cases," including his criminal racketeering case in Fulton County, Georgia.

In his defamation case, Timmons said, "what they're really counting on is a reversal by the court of appeals holding that Mr. Giuliani's statements are 'opinions,' which aren't actionable under defamation law."

Sibley wrote: When you see my client's state of mind, you're going to say, you should have been better but weren't as bad as plaintiffs make
you out to be.

Jury submits question to judge

Daniel Barnes

Lawyers from both sides have returned to the courtroom to hear a question submitted by the jury.

SuzieC wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:16 pm "Is there any limit to the amount we can award?"

The jury has asked for documents concerning damages

Daniel Barnes and Diana Paulsen

The jury submitted a note to the judge asking if they could be provided with a copy of the slideshow and reports presented by the plaintiff's expert witness, Ashlee Humphreys.

The documents in question detail her assessment of what she believes the plaintiffs should be awarded in damages. The request was denied, as the documents had not been entered into evidence.

Humphreys, a professor of sociology at Northwestern University, also served as an expert witness in E. Jean Carroll's defamation suit against former President Donald Trump.

The jury submitted a note to the judge asking if they could be provided with a copy of the slideshow and reports presented by the plaintiff's expert witness, Ashlee Humphreys.

The documents in question detail her assessment of what she believes the plaintiffs should be awarded in damages. The request was denied, as the documents had not been entered into evidence.

Humphreys, a professor of sociology at Northwestern University, also served as an expert witness in E. Jean Carroll's defamation suit against former President Donald Trump.

The jury has ended its deliberations for the day and left the courthouse.

Deliberations are scheduled to resume tomorrow at 9 a.m. ET.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:25 pm

The jury has ended its deliberations for the day and left the courthouse.

Deliberations are scheduled to resume tomorrow at 9 a.m. ET.

nbc live link as above