Well, if you want one, go see if you can get one.

Birthers allege they can do that, according to Hawaiian law, so have at it. If anyone has attempted it and been successful, I'm sure we'd have all heard about it. yes/no?

Note: Some here have tried...guess what, couldn't do it.

You're more than welcome to give it a shot, though. Let us know how it turns out.



How about Maya saying it?

After hearing... you see, that's called "hearsay". It's not evidence and not admissible in court, because it's something you can't PROVE. That also indicates that you haven't seen it either... you're going PURELY on word of mouth. As realist pointed out, you're welcome to try to get one from Hawaii. I'm sure we'd all like to hear how that turns out.



It certainly DOES appear that way in your case, doesn't it?

Good luck on coming up with evidence of a single thing you've mentioned. I won't be holding my breath in the meantime.

Well by all means just go get one. According to the birthers its really simple and Hawaii hands them out like candy. It's such a simple step that wold prove alot of their claims, yet, to date, not a single person has been able to produce a birth certificate for someone actually born outside of Hawaii.

I suggest you become the first, we will be anxiously waiting for you to go thru this simple process, then post your certificate.

Of course the problem is, you cannot obtain a birth certificate that states you were born in Hawaii unless you were actually born there.

But hey....you wanna keep beatin this dead horse have a ball.

Well, if you think they're just giving them out, then why don't you just go get one. Let us know how that turns out for you.

Cool.

Go try to get one.

Let us know how that works out.

This guy has an impressive memory for false statements and unsubstantiated claims.

If only he had some evidence of what he's sayin'!

That's, as you know, the typical birther method of operation. They can only spread rumor, unsubstantiated claims, hearsay, and pretty much total BS.

Once in a while one or some come here, are confronted with providing factual bases for their claims, can not and do not do so, then go into the mocking, internet tough guy attack mode, then run back to mama saying we wouldn't play nice.

Everyone here is more than willing to engage in debate and are perfectly willing to check out any claims that can be substantiated and will readily admit when someone has credible evidence or proof of the things they assert. We actually welcome such.

Thus far, no one has been willing to do so, rather they just come in and act like AXJ, then probably run home and tell everybody they "really showed us a thing or two."

Come on, birthers, republicans, conservatives, can't you do better?

Just FYI, we also have many folders to discuss politics or other subjects of your choosing. You might be surprised at the number here who do not agree with everything Obama or Democrat/liberal philosophy/policy, and are more than willing to discuss such.

Evidence? Look, once an allegation is made the burden of proof lies on the accused to refute it. For instance if I say I heard from a reliable source (who wishes to remain anonymous because she is fearful of retribution) that AXJ is the owner of the wold's largest collection of Hitler-Goat Porn on the interwebs, AXJ must address this. He or she should release her/his computer to my forensic experts, plus all birth, school, medical, dental and employment records until I am satisfied that AXJ does not have sexual fantasies involving prominent Nazis and various barnyard animals. Clearly if AXJ does not release said records, he or she must be hiding something. It's the secrecy darn it!!!!

Hektor.....

I have some serious guy-love going on for you man. Purely platonic, but it's real.

Hektor, thank you for bringing this disgusting aspect of AJX's personality to our attention. Until AJX completely refutes your very disturbing accusation, I have to believe he is simply one very sick puppy, and thus put him on my "foe" list.

Mine isn't platonic!

They never have an answer to this one, eh? You'd think by now at least ONE of them would have managed to prove this assertion.

Ladies first.

Of all their claims....this is probably the ONLY one that they could actually produce a piece of evidence about...... all they need to do is take advantage of Hawaii's "lax" registration of births, go apply, get a certificate....if they truly believed this was possible they would have done it already...the fact that they havent tried means...that they dont actually believe their own claims

Ya know, I was up in front of a judge today for, well, a misunderstanding... Anyways I took the opportunity to apply for a stay against the Internets until AXJ provides documentation necessary to prove she or he does not have Fuhrer and livestock enhanced fantasies of a sexual nature. I railed outside the courthouse for hours, asking what does AXJ have to hide... The silence IS deafening. The judge told me that I had to follow court rules or something, which is CRIMINAL when a crime of this magnitude remains uninvestigated. All we the people want to know is the truth after all. He then rejected my case for lack of standing and set my bail at $20 000. I hate to say it, but maybe the birfers are right and there exists a conspiracy by the courts to suppress the voice of the people? Standing? How can I, a patriotic non-American citizen, who has yet to be convicted of anything that hasn't been lost when a few files disappeared after the courthouse mysteriously burned down last spring, lack the ability to seek redress of my grievances against the filthy mind of AXJ? It's unamerican that it's happening in my country!

PS I loves all ya back as well. For those of you interested, applications to be my wife must be submitted in triplicate and a fiscal plan for my dowry must meet strict performance guidelines OR the enforcement clauses in the wedding contract do come into play.

Are you gonna go to Hawaii to get one? Cool! Can I come too? I'd love to have one of my own. Wait, I know, let's put a Paypal button on your website and ask everyone to donate to the cause. I bet we can get plenty of people to contribute, since we'll be working to oust the Usurper. We could probably get enaough cash for a couple of weeks in Hawaii (just in case it takes us a while to find the DoH offices). Man, this is a great idea you had. Let's do it! PM me with details!

Sorry Justin...but Hektor really deserved all 7 smilies for that post!

AXJ actually knows something that we did not know:
[linkbtn]Urban Dictionary,http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hawaiin[/linkbtn]
[linkbtn]Hawaiin Gifts,http://www.zazzle.com/hawaiin+gifts[/linkbtn]
and a Hawaiin porn site, to which I won't provide the URL.

This may have something to do with the Hitler Goat porn collection.

Hector,

What do you mean you dont have standing? Every American should have standing and be given blanket discovery to look into every personal record they want to see, once they read an unsubstantiated internet rumor about a person being attracted to farm animals.

I think somebody threatened this judge and he doesnt have the courage to do what any patriot would do. This judge is a traitor and should be frog marched out the court house, tried for treason. (Hes pobably a Bush appointee)

This should be made public by the MSM, but the brown shirt media are in the tank for people into beastiality. We need to form citizen grand juries, then march on Washington some week when all the house members are on recess, then hand presentments to their mail clerks. I demand justice.

I think the judge is following the Constitution. Imagine that...

Aloha from Hawai'i AXJ & we say: e komo mai, Welcome to PJ. Let me know when you'll be arriving at HNL: airline, flight #, etc, & I'll see if I can pick you up at the airport & drive you straight to Kinau Hale where you can fill out the form & stand in line to get that Hawaiian COLB you say is given out so easily. Just for fun, I'll fill out the form too, stand behind you in line, & get an extra copy of a COLB I don't need, just so I can watch what happens during your transaction. Or maybe you can hook up with Andy Martin & share a hotel room?, the next time he comes here to check how his boycotthawaii.com campaign is doing?

Again, then by all means please go and get yourself a Hawai'ian COLB, and let us know once you have accomplished this task.

We'll wait...

so you should allready have your Hawaii BC. No birther has ever produced what we are asking them from months: A HAWAIIAN COLB stating birth in HAWAII for someone born elsewhere. This is what Birthers (before they were even known as "Birthers") claim to be the "convenience Colb" issued by tha lax and multiethnic State of Hawai'i. Polland promised one and never delivered. We know many birthers have tried. We have tried as well. So instead of ranting things we have debunked months ago, please:


[center]GO FETCH YOUR HAWAIIAN COLB[/center]

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What does any of that mean?