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Still peddling a conspiracy theory ...

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6 DEGREES OF SEPERATION. REMEMBER AZ ASSASSIN JARED LOUGHNER WAS BRAINWASHED BY THE ANNENBERG CHALLENGE , WHICH WAS RUN BY OBAMA AND BILL AYERS.


... that originated at WND and was debunked within days of the of Tucson shooting. In fact, Aaron Klein's research assistant and co-author, Brenda Elliott, backed off the original story after her sloppy research was exposed. Professor Stephen Diamond:

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Klein’s (wrong headed) reasoning, if you can call it that, is as follows:

Ayers and his maoist side kick Mike Klonsky founded a group called the Small Schools Workshop in 1991.
True.

The Small Schools Workshop received hundreds of thousands of dollars of grant money from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995-2002. True.

The Annenberg Challenge was founded by Bill Ayers in 1994-5, who appointed Barack Obama to its board of directors in the spring of 1995. True.

The high school attended by deranged Tucson assassin Jared Lee Loughner was a recipient of a grant from the Smaller Learning Communities. True.

So far, so good, but now consider the following claims:

Bill Ayers is “father of the Smaller Learning Communities.” False.

Smaller Learning Communities – initial caps – is a part of the US Department of Education where it has resided since 2002. It was brought into being by the No Child Left Behind Act passed in 2001 – the infamous NCLB which is opposed vociferously by Ayers, Klonsky and just about everyone else in their (small) corner of the education policy world.

Loughner’s high school teachers were trained and funded by the Ayers/Klonsky Small Schools Workshop. False.

The grant money received to train and structure a smaller learning community at Loughner’s high school came from the same SLC program at the US Department of Education, mentioned above.


The Small Schools Workshop was premised on the -- gasp! radical/communist -- notion that if high schools were to limit their enrollment to no more than 400 students the learning atmosphere on campus would be improved. Mountain View High School -- which has an enrollment of nearly 2,000 students -- was the recipient of a $2.2 million “new award” from the US DOEd for a program involving freshmen in 2008, but by then Loughner had already dropped out of high school.

Deeper down the rabbit hole, Lena.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_An ... _Challenge

Ayers did not appoint Obama to the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

The Annenberg Challenge was a nation wide program to improve education and was funded by a conservative.

Ayers was one of three people who wrote a proposal for the grant for Chicago schools. He was one of 72 education specialists who were responsible for the grant. He was not the one who brought Obama onto the board and the connection is extremely tenuous.

It's like saying I am connected to the Mayor of our fair city because we happened to be in the same ice cream shop last week at the same time.

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It's like saying I am connected to the Mayor of our fair city because we happened to be in the same ice cream shop last week at the same time.


It might be different if you hadn't exchanged the secret signal with him/her. =)) =)) =))

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No surprise that Orly is unable to differentiate between brainwashing and mental illness. I am sure Jared Loughner did not know he was delusional, and his family (like Orly's) did not get him any help. She has no idea how absolutely insane the things she says are because in her sick mind these plots, connections, and conspiracies are just as real as Hinckley's belief that Reagan was the only thing between him and Jody Foster was to him. I really believe she may be dangerous.

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It's like saying I am connected to the Mayor of our fair city because we happened to be in the same ice cream shop last week at the same time.

Well, you know, there is this mailman who saw you at the mayor's house 25 years ago, and according to this mailman you told him you were being supported by the mayor and planned to become the mayor's secret operative and prominent Obot (although the mailman didn't understand what "Obot" meant 25 years ago, the phrase stuck with him all this time).

Don't try to hide it - the truth is going to come out about you.


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This is just...so Orly.

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When I first started watching this video I thought it was BS, then at 7 minutes into the clip I became curious,and concerned.
Thought I would forward this for your take.
 
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She is trying to foment armed rebellion.

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Any of you other gun owners been told to turn in your guns?

The gubbamint hasn't said "boo" to me yet.

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esseff44 wrote:
It's like saying I am connected to the Mayor of our fair city because we happened to be in the same ice cream shop last week at the same time.

Well, you know, there is this mailman who saw you at the mayor's house 25 years ago, and according to this mailman you told him you were being supported by the mayor and planned to become the mayor's secret operative and prominent Obot (although the mailman didn't understand what "Obot" meant 25 years ago, the phrase stuck with him all this time).

Don't try to hide it - the truth is going to come out about you.


Obviously, the ice cream was a pay off for this:

http://blog.sfgate.com/cityinsider/2012 ... mb-threat/

I also happened to be in City Hall on 6/26 at the time when the mayor was testifying in a hearing about why he fired the new sheriff for domestic abuse charges and someone called in a bomb scare which got the mayor out of problematic cross examination. It's no joke that a conspiracy theory developed that someone called in the bomb scare to get the mayor off the hook. It was later debunked by the LE officers in charge, but it just goes to show there is no such thing as a coincidence (or so some folks would have us believe.)

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Any of you other gun owners been told to turn in your guns?

The gubbamint hasn't said "boo" to me yet.

Someone tried to take mine, but when I showed him my official Bilderberg/New World Order membership card, he allowed me to keep all of them. :P


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That's the way I thought it would work. Only Patriots will be relieved of their weaponry.

Good, they'll be much easier to control once we take over.

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Orlena on her quest to find a 1st edition 1995 of Obamas book, and after many Flying Monkeys have reported on the fancy prices asked for on the innertubes:
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BUY a library book?????????

=)) =)) =)) =)) =))


In January 2008 -- four-and-a-half years ago -- here is what the NYT had to say about the first edition:


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If you were wise enough to buy a first edition of Obama’s “Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance” back in 1995, when it first appeared … and if you were wise enough to have Obama sign it … and if you were wise enough to hang onto that copy … well, you’d probably be able to sell it right now at a modestly spectacular profit.

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:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=190779 :evil:

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A new attack: :^o Obama’s operatives want my U.S. Naturalization papers. Sure, no problem, right after we get the application for the CT SSN XXX-XX-4425 Obama is fraudulently using and his application for the SS and BC.


Gee, she's passing up such an opportunity to show Obama how it's done - you know, someone asks you for your papers, and you show 'em your papers, no questions asked! It seems to me she must have something to hide if she's not willing to release her naturalization papers - especially since you know she doesn't think Obama will ever release the SSN application, so she's at no risk of having to show her papers. It all makes me wonder, do they even exist? Are they a crude forgery? If she posts them as a .pdf, will there be layers?

Come on, Orly - show yourself to be the bigger person here and show us YOUR papers without demanding anything else in return. If they're legit, you've got nothing to fear, and you give us one less talking point to use in our work of discrediting you, eh?

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Don't know too many libraries that sell books from their stacks. Orly just gets stranger and stranger. There is no method to her madness.

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BUY a library book?????????

=)) =)) =)) =)) =))


I've done that before.

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I have both books in Kindle format. As soon as I make some alterations to the text, I'll be happy to share them with Orly.

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Orlena on her quest to find a 1st edition 1995 of Obamas book, and after many Flying Monkeys have reported on the fancy prices asked for on the innertubes:
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Ummmm... yeah, I must have missed the price tags on the books in the library.

Incidentally, my university library also has the 1995 edition. It's currently checked out, but do you think Orly would want me to do some research for her when it's back on the shelves?


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I think she thinks in the first edition he says he was born in Kenya and that was changed for the edition released before the 2008 election. Or that's what the first editions said originally, but all the copies in all the libraries in the world have been doctored by the regime, just like all the microfilms of the August 1961 Hawaiian newspapers in all the libraries were doctored to add the birth announcements. She's gonna have Chito check the books for layers or gaps or crooked printing. She needs a private book that the regime couldn't access to see if she can spot the switcheroo. She doesn't realize the regime can get anything anywhere. All your first editions belong to us.


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Orlena on her quest to find a 1st edition 1995 of Obamas book, and after many Flying Monkeys have reported on the fancy prices asked for on the innertubes:
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Ummmm... yeah, I must have missed the price tags on the books in the library.

Incidentally, my university library also has the 1995 edition. It's currently checked out, but do you think Orly would want me to do some research for her when it's back on the shelves?[/quote]

Even Yulia can check it out from the local library for a month. Geesh do we have to help them with everything?

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Why has Orly spent untold amounts of money to keep her naturalization papers secret?

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a REAL world's leading obama eligibility attorney would be HONORED to show their naturalization papers to anyone who asked!

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I think she thinks in the first edition he says he was born in Kenya and that was changed for the edition released before the 2008 election.


Egad, kimba, you are channeling Orly too well. :shock:

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OC Register: O.C. poll: 65% of GOP question Obama citizenship
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Two-thirds of county Republicans polled say Barack Obama might not be a natural-born citizen – and 20 percent of those are certain he’s not, according to an OC Political Pulse poll of 184 GOP voters.

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Meanwhile, 96 percent of the 108 Democrats polled said Obama is a natural-born citizen – and 65 percent of those say that keeping the issue alive will hurt the GOP and Romney. Some Republicans share that concern. Ten percent said the issue will hurt Republicans and an additional 13 percent said it will hurt both the party in general and Romney specifically.

Of the 11 groups polled, self-identifying conservative Christians were the most likely to doubt Obama’s citizenship, with 82 percent saying it’s at least questionable – and 32 percent of those saying it’s clear he’s not a natural-born citizen. Eighty percent of Tea Party activists and 74 percent of anti-illegal immigration activists also have doubts about his citizenship.

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65% of Republicans question Obama’s story and his alleged papers, while OC register flagrantly lies about experts finding Obama’s papers valid. All the experts find Obama’s SS card, BC and SS registration to be flagrant forgeries, for which he and corrupt judges and officials aiding and abetting him, should go to prison

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=193306 :twisted:

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No surprise that Orly is unable to differentiate between brainwashing and mental illness.I am sure Jared Loughner did not know he was delusional, and his family (like Orly's) did not get him any help. She has no idea how absolutely insane the things she says are because in her sick mind these plots, connections, and conspiracies are just as real as Hinckley's belief that Reagan was the only thing between him and Jody Foster was to him. I really believe she may be dangerous.


Stop blaming the family of mentally ill people for not doing what you think the family should be doing and the law says they can not do.

Try and wrap you head around the fact his family could not force get him help. You can not force a mentally ill patient to get help[*] unless they are a danger to self or others. Believe it or not this is high standard to meet. And once met and hospitalized, the patient gets out as soon as the doctor no longer thinks they are not danger, this is typically once the meds are fully effective. At which point the cycle starts again.

Jared's family, Orly's family, and all of us who have a seriously mentally ill family member can attest to the helplessness of being unable to do a damn thing, because we have no lawful options to force out loved ones to take their medicine, never mind into long term care--be it out or inpatient.

As a parent of a seriously ill paranoia schizophrenic son, I am sick and tired of being blamed for someone I have absolutely no control over since he turned 18.

As a parent who dearly loves her child, I am sick and tired and being unable to do anything but watch as my son continually cycles.

As someone who has lobbied to have the laws modified to allow some earlier and longer intervention, I am sick and tired of having to continually listen to this line of claptrap from someone who has not a frigging clue as to just how little control family or friends has over a mentally ill loved one who is over 18.

Stop blaming us and start blaming the laws. Try joining NAMI or some other organization to help change the laws.

*unless you are going to execute them, then you can force feed them medication so they understand why they are being executed


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