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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:50 am 
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The stock in the frog marching boots industry just took a nosedive today....

Romney economics: frogs will have to diversify into weather forcasting :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:54 am 
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The Hawaii AG did issue a very long statement that included:
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“Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law. … Not only are Hawaii’s vital records some of the best managed, but they also have some of the strongest restrictions on access to prevent identity theft and fraud.


Link to full statement? If it's a government press release-- no need to snip to the 4 paragraphs max rule.

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The complete Hawaii DoH site is down. I cannot even open the main page: http://hawaii.gov/health

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:04 am 
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The complete Hawaii DoH site is down. I cannot even open the main page: http://hawaii.gov/health

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Same here... 503 error.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it, all states have laws similar to Hawaii's. And, that is because of federal laws passed in that era.


5 secs on the Google, and it didn't cost $10K either.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... d+32.1-257

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... d+32.1-261

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... d+32.1-262


The laws in question specifically say that a resident can register a birth that occurred outside the state and get a valid state birth certificate. Here's the equivalent from PA:

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Can we register the birth of our child that was born in another country?

Yes. You may register the birth of your child who was born in a country other than the United States with the Division of Vital Records if either parent is a citizen of the United States and a legal resident of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. The appropriate forms and instructions may be requested from the Division of Vital Records.


This is separate from the adoption registration:

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Can we receive a Pennsylvania birth certificate for a child we adopted from a foreign country?

Yes. You may register the birth of your child who was born in a country other than the United States with the Division of Vital Records if either adoptive parent is a citizen of the United States and a resident of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. However, it will be necessary for you to contact the Orphans' Court where you reside to register the foreign adoption. Once the court has filed this adoption with the Division of Vital Records, the adoptive parent(s) may request a certified copy of the birth record. We suggest you review the instructions on obtaining a certified copy of the birth certificate.


http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/se ... s/610832#L

If anyone can find other states with similar, there's pie...

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Still dead. http://hawaii.gov/health

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Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.


And it's been dead for (at least) several hours prior to your posting, RC.

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Orly's all over it... :lol:

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=189534 :evil:

[b]I will be forwarding the DVD and transcript of the latest press conference to all 6 courts around the country that have my cases pending =))

Yeah -- and don't forget to attach a daffydavid to each stating that you made brunt toast of the dvds personally. =)) =)) #-o


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realist wrote:
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The complete Hawaii DoH site is down. I cannot even open the main page: http://hawaii.gov/health

:eek:


Same here... 503 error.


How long before the site being down becomes in birferville clear evidence of something or other of a Gubmint conspiratorial nature?


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Judge Mental wrote:
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The complete Hawaii DoH site is down. I cannot even open the main page: http://hawaii.gov/health

:eek:


Same here... 503 error.


How long before the site being down becomes in birferville clear evidence of something or other of a Gubmint conspiratorial nature?


iirc, same thing happened after the last book selling by the CCP. More traffic then the system was designed to handle.

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Golly....
I musta missed that part of the presser.

Buncha poi eating, pig roasting, mai tai sipping commies.


Sounds like fun. Where do I sign up? 8-)

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Moron and Romney supporter Trump tweets

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Congratulations to @RealSheriffJoe on his successful Cold Case Posse investigation which claims @BarackObama's 'birth certificate' is fake

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Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:
Moron and Romney supporter Trump tweets

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Congratulations to @RealSheriffJoe on his successful Cold Case Posse investigation which claims @BarackObama's 'birth certificate' is fake


Sounds quite a bit different than the story that comes from the Official Sources of the Government of Hawaii.

Suck it Donald.

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From Video 2:

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The image the Posse used wasn't taken from The Daily Pen. For one thing, The Daily Pen's 1969 list had a #8 for "Filipino".*

Rather, this image is taken from the Natality Tape File for 1968. You can see the same imperfections in the scan (specifically the marks above and below "part-Hawaiian").

But what does the audio say? "The Cold Case Posse obtained information from the 1961 vital statistics instructions manual for births." They didn't even leave it vague by saying "1960s." They *lied* and specifically said it was from 1961.

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(At first, I thought it was odd that the list was missing "8", and wondered if the image had been altered. Turns out that's just an anomaly in the original document. A reminder of why it's important not to read too much into isolated anomalies.)


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OK, yea sure...

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"Unknown or not stated". Even if that was the wording in 1961, a coder seeing "African" in the field cannot conclude that the entrant was negro or another race since African isn't a race as defined under code. Therefore the proper code was 9 since the race was unknown to the coder.

The same is probably true for "University" since the coder couldn't match that with one of their standard entries.

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Joe said he doesn't know who to turn his evidences over to.

I might suggest Darrel Issa. Let that gas bag double down on crazy lies after that Holder fuckup.

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Loren wrote:
The AP has published a, IMO, disappointing story on the press conference.

For one thing, it's resulted in national stories like CBS's "Arpaio: Obama birth record definitely forged" and ABC's "Arpaio: Obama Birth Record 'Definitely Fraudulent'". That's awfully declarative.

It does nothing to point out the massive problems in their 'evidence.'

And it says this: "Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker." Why is the author of "The Obama Nation" and "Where's the Birth Certificate" being anonymously referenced as being merely "a news reporter"? There are few people who have MORE invested in Birtherism than Corsi, and the AP treats him like a neutral participant.



Yeah, it's sad. It's not just birtherism either. The media seems to bend over backwards to prove they are not biased, and give these wackos a voice. They present them as if what they say should be considered. Like the birther stuff should be weighed and considered.

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When I say it's not just birtherism, I mean it.

I saw this post about demonstrators booing Hillary and chanting "Monica". Seems they are getting their information from U.S. RWNJ bloggers and such.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0 ... islamists/

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Of course, the United States isn't funding the Muslim Brotherhood. So why have these folks taken to the streets to complain about?

It's amusing in an unsettling sort of way. The protestors believe the United States is too much in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, and they believe this because they saw reports online from Michele Bachmann, Frank Gaffney, and other American extremists who peddle strange conspiracy theories -- including absurdities about the Muslim Brotherhood "infiltrating" the American government.

But the people on the streets of Cairo don't realize that Bachmann, Gaffney, and their cohorts are ridiculous, so they're taking the strange "news" they're finding on the Internet seriously.

Congratulations, far-right activists, your nonsense now has a global reach.


http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 ... f-nonsense

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you know what. it is sad.

Nonsense should be treated as nonsense.

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Loren wrote:
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But what does the audio say? "The Cold Case Posse obtained information from the 1961 vital statistics instructions manual for births." They didn't even leave it vague by saying "1960s." They *lied* and specifically said it was from 1961.



Anyone have a link for the 1961 image?

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I think that Orly must be kvelling right now, about her cause (altho' pretty upset that she isn't getting credit): Every L.A. TV station morning news reported Joe's "findings." And all the same abbreviated one-sided report, i.e., not noting that it may not be true -- "a code" has been found that Shurf Arpaio believes proves the BC is a fraud. That is ALL they said. Ridiculous! Image


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1960-61:
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1968:
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These were from Doc C's articles... links to Doc's are upthread

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Whatever4 wrote:
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But what does the audio say? "The Cold Case Posse obtained information from the 1961 vital statistics instructions manual for births." They didn't even leave it vague by saying "1960s." They *lied* and specifically said it was from 1961.



Anyone have a link for the 1961 image?
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Birthers haven't caught on the coding numbers demonstrate that race is self-reported; someone coded "African" as "9."

Thanks for destroying that birther argument, Joe!

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