Sheriff Joe's Cold Case Posse Reports

Wild Bill · **Joined:** Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:46 pm **Posts:** 109

LM K wrote:

According to Zullo, Kapiolani allows citizens to view records, but wouldn't let him or Corsi view those same records. :^o

Maybe they couldn't prove they were citizens.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:13 pm

KPHO reports a response from Hawaii Asst to Atty General:

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Hawaii officials say there is no secret. Joshua Wisch, Special Assistant to the state's Attorney General, said in a statement Tuesday that the allegations from Arpaio's office are "untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."

According to the Wisch, "The purpose of section 338-17.8, Hawaii Revised Statutes (HRS), is to accommodate foreign-born individuals whose parents were residents of Hawaii but were temporarily outside of this state due to employment or military service. Similar to section 338-20.5, HRS, which provides for a certificate of foreign birth, anyone who receives a birth certificate under this section would have noted on their birth certificate the physical location of their actual birth. It does not confer citizenship, which is, of course, a power of the federal government.

"We also note that section 338-17.8 was not passed until 1982, so it cannot apply to President Obama, who was born at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu in 1961, as is reflected on his certificate of live birth, a copy of which can be viewed on the White House website, a link to which is provided on DOH's website."

http://www.kpho.com/story/19029890/arpa ... ap-tuesday

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

The AP has published a, IMO, disappointing story on the press conference.

For one thing, it's resulted in national stories like CBS's "Arpaio: Obama birth record definitely forged" and ABC's "Arpaio: Obama Birth Record 'Definitely Fraudulent'". That's awfully declarative.

It does nothing to point out the massive problems in their 'evidence.'

And it says this: "Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker." Why is the author of "The Obama Nation" and "Where's the Birth Certificate" being anonymously referenced as being merely "a news reporter"? There are few people who have MORE invested in Birtherism than Corsi, and the AP treats him like a neutral participant.

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:26 pm

LM K wrote:

Complete video of the conference.

Can anyone download or record the video?

You can download it at: http://kpho.videodownload.worldnow.com/ ... 9540AA.mp4

Right click on the link, "Save As"
517 MB file.

jtmunkus · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 pm **Posts:** 3516

Now that they've located and thoroughly harassed Verna K. Lee, they've blown out of the water Corsi's own theory of the forger playing a crude Hawai'ian joke by writing 'ukelele.'

:-bd

Reality Check · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:35 pm

If you look at the video with the codes it is clear they used the codes from 1968 and not 1961. Doc C said on RC radio that the Daily Pen represented the 1968 codes as if they were from the 1961 document. It appears that the CCP relied on that forged list of codes for their analysis. I am sure Doc will cover this in the article he is writing.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

PatGund wrote:

Looking though the "Supplemental Report" from the MCSO (oh, no taxpayer resources being used, of course not.

http://www.mcso.org/MultiMedia/PressRel ... Report.pdf

It's done by one "Garrett Papit", who's one of Leo Donofrio's groupies. And who is not an actual forensic document specialist either.

Oh look, another biased "expert"

Garrett Papit is an application developer for JC Penney department stores. He's been openly Birther since at least May-June 2011.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

jtmunkus wrote:

Now that they've located and thoroughly harassed Verna K. Lee, they've blown out of the water Corsi's own theory of the forger playing a crude Hawai'ian joke by writing 'ukelele.'

And as I mentioned in chat earlier today, I'm terribly amused that after spending 10 days in Hawaii at a cost of $10,000, the only *new* information that the Posse procured was via a telephone call. IOW, something they could have done, and in fact MAY have done, from home.

Remember how much they bragged about the exciting new discoveries they made while on the ground in Hawaii? Big surprise: there were NONE. Even our speculation about Virginia Sunahara or title records or the missing divorce page turned out to be wrong. I think they might've felt compelled to do that video about 'How Hawaii impeded us' just so that they actually had *something* to say about what they did during those 10 days.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6637

"We" didn't speculate about page 11 of the divorce papers. That was a "tip" by Informer. About as accurate a tip as the appearance of a whistleblower at the conference. I think Informer should rename himself.

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10671

Quote:

Birthers (sigh)
Joe Arpaio's Scooby Doo Gang Nails Obama on Damning Phone Interview With 95-year-old Woman and Zero Evidence
By Jason Lewis Tue., Jul. 17 2012 at 7:34 PM

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valley ... ama_wi.php

Orlylicious · **Joined:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:02 pm **Posts:** 286

Top of DRUDGE... this site is going to be very busy.

Quote:

Sheriff Joe's Obama probe finds 'national security threat'...
Calls Congress to move on eligibility...
VIDEO: 'Every document surrounding Obama plagued with problems'...

'IT'S A FAKE'

Tomtech · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:16 am

Jez wrote:

RTH10260 wrote:

PatGund wrote:

Well, if anyone with a Hawaiian Birth Certificate is now suspect, it looks like Miki Booth, one of her sons, and one of Terry Lakin's kids must now be deported as not being actual citizens.

I guess they will learn to love Kenya :lol:

Miki Booth was born in Japan. Not Hawai'i

When we get to Kenya after Obama and the obots seek asylum there take control, Miki, her son, and Larkin's kids may apply for asylum.

Tomtech · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:29 am

I went to the Arizona Statutes and discovered that they allow late registration of births and rules for applying for birth certificates which are fairly broad under limited circumstances.

If someone has access to LexusNexus or Westlaw's historical Arizona Statutes, a comparison of 1961 and 1982 statutes might be fruitful.

Quote:

AZ 36-333.02. Delayed birth certificate registration
A. If a birth certificate of a person who is born in this state is not registered within one year after the date of birth, a person authorized by this chapter may submit to the state registrar information and evidentiary documents that support the creation and registration of a delayed birth certificate.
B. The state registrar may waive the information and evidentiary document requirements in subsection A of this section for a birth that occurred before 1970.
C. The state registrar shall create a delayed birth certificate that includes a listing of the information and evidentiary documents submitted pursuant to subsection A of this section.
D. The state registrar shall register a delayed birth certificate if the information and evidentiary documents are accurate and complete, support the creation and registration of the delayed birth certificate and are submitted pursuant to this chapter and rules adopted pursuant to this chapter.

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AZ36-333. Birth certificate registration
A. Within seven days after a child's birth in this state, a person shall submit to a local registrar, a deputy local registrar or the state registrar, a birth certificate for registration according to rules adopted pursuant to this chapter. The birth certificate shall be submitted physically or electronically through the state designated electronic registration system. A local registrar, a deputy local registrar or the state registrar may accept a certificate submitted electronically without the signatures required by rule.

<snip>

C. If a birth does not occur at a hospital one of the following persons shall obtain the information, evidentiary documents, social security numbers and signatures required by rule for a birth certificate, fill out the birth certificate and submit the birth certificate for registration to a local registrar, a deputy local registrar or the state registrar:

<snip>

3. If the child's father or other family member of legal age is not present or is not willing or able and the child's mother is not willing or able to supply the required information, any other person who is present during or immediately after the child's birth and who can supply the required information.

It looks like Arizona's laws are as flexible as Hawaii's and older versions might show more similarities.

BillTheCat · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:25 pm **Posts:** 1430

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CALL FOX, WASH POST, NY TIMES, OC REGISTER, LA TIMES, DEMAND THAT THEY REPORT ON THIS PRESS CONFERENCE, OR THEY WILL BE TRIED FOR AIDING AND ABETTING THE BIGGEST ELECTIONS FRAUD AND TREASON!!!

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=189668

=))

so now it's a crime not to report this?

Plutodog · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:24 am

HuffPo:

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Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Cold Case Posse Protested Ahead Of Release Of Alleged 'Indisputable' Birther Proof

Sheriff Joe Arpaio drew a protest Monday at his office in Maricopa County, Ariz., just a day before his "Cold Case Posse" of birthers promised to release proof that President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate is a forgery.

A group of activists from Citizens for a Better Arizona donned Hawaiian shirts and leis in objection to Arpaio's decision to send a deputy to Hawaii on a taxpayer-funded investigation into Obama's birth certificate. Reports place the price of the nine-day stay at around $10,000, money that Arpaio was forced to charge to the state after a panel denied his request to use a private donation to foot the bill.

"This is about a sheriff's betrayal of taxpayers," Randy Parraz, president of Citizens for a Better Arizona, said at the press conference. "So we're waiting for him to retract that statement ... that no public money was used for this investigation."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/1 ... 80191.html

Plutodog · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:34 am

Rudy OD's on 6 Cold Crank Videos

Video from : www.youtube.com

It's like graffiti, man! :roll:

lyssandri · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:58 am

Kyser Soze wrote:

That was it?!?!?! Oh for fuck's sake!!!! Really??? Hardly seemed worth the white cheddar sprinkles on my popcorn.

Oh and by the way Sheriff Joe, I hope to hell they find you guilty on federal charges and lock you up with some well endowed unsavory individual who will sodomize you on a nightly basis ... without even a drop of spit for lube!

Wishing rape on someone, IMO, crosses the same line as does wishing someone dead or to suffer some other violent assault. It's unacceptable and inexcusable. If you want to wish that they live in constant, paranoid, deathly fear of it, that's a whole different matter. I wouldn't mind seeing him suffering from a super exaggerated fear that leaves him almost unable to function - but not the actual act.

LM K · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:32 am

Loren wrote:

And it says this: "Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker." Why is the author of "The Obama Nation" and "Where's the Birth Certificate" being anonymously referenced as being merely "a news reporter"? There are few people who have MORE invested in Birtherism than Corsi, and the AP treats him like a neutral participant.

I wonder if this has to do with the IRS complaint filed approx 2 weeks ago. Zullo was very, very careful to say that he hasn't earned any money from the first report ... even though he has received and likely cashed checks from the sale of the CCP pamphlet. Corsi wasn't shy about talking about his involvement with the CCP until the IRS complaint was filed.

On another note; most Americans have no clue who Jerome Corsi is. Many RWNJs have no idea who Jerome Corsi is. Some may know the titles of the books he has written, but they can't link the books with their author. Corsi just isn't relevant enough to score a mention in the press. Sheriff Joe? Yes. Zullo? Only because he was "appointed" by Arpaio.

LM K · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:40 am

BillTheCat wrote:

Quote:

CALL FOX, WASH POST, NY TIMES, OC REGISTER, LA TIMES, DEMAND THAT THEY REPORT ON THIS PRESS CONFERENCE, OR THEY WILL BE TRIED FOR AIDING AND ABETTING THE BIGGEST ELECTIONS FRAUD AND TREASON!!!

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=189668

=))

so now it's a crime not to report this?

Just how long is Orly's list of Treasonous Americans Humans?

Next Orly is going to accuse the above news orgs of treason for covering the Arpaio press conference today. The press was pretty harsh with Zullo and Arpaio at the press conference, and many in the media are making fun of Arpaio right now.

Did anyone have the feeling that Sheriff Joe was less than pleased with Zullo and Corsi this time around? I think Joe thought this latest "investigative report" was lame.

Somerset · **Posted:** Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:41 am

LM K wrote:

Loren wrote:

And it says this: "Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker." Why is the author of "The Obama Nation" and "Where's the Birth Certificate" being anonymously referenced as being merely "a news reporter"? There are few people who have MORE invested in Birtherism than Corsi, and the AP treats him like a neutral participant.

I wonder if this has to do with the IRS complaint filed approx 2 weeks ago. Zullo was very, very careful to say that he hasn't earned any money from the first report ... even though he has received and likely cashed checks from the sale of the CCP pamphlet. Corsi wasn't shy about talking about his involvement with the CCP until the IRS complaint was filed.

Maybe.

And if so, I'd imagine it's too little, too late

Wolf · **Joined:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:55 pm **Posts:** 198

Article posted on The Gaurdian 17 hours ago:

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Arizona's sheriff Joe Arpaio faces civil lawsuit over racial profiling allegations

The self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff in America", Joe Arpaio, will be called to account in a courtroom this week over long-standing accusations that he is waging an unlawful campaign of discrimination and harassment against Latinos.

Examples of racial profiling:

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One plaintiff, Manuel de Jesus Ortega Melendres, a legal visitor to the United States with a valid visa, was arrested by Arpaio's deputies in 2007, when they pulled over a car he was travelling in. He provided identification but was jailed for four hours before being released. The driver, who was white, was not given a citation or taken into custody. Another plaintiff, Manuel Nieto, was thrown against his car, and he and his sister, Velia Meraz, were held at gunpoint in front of their family business during a sweep in which they were stopped. They are both US citizens. Another woman, who is not a plaintiff but a declarant in the case, is Diane Solis. Solis, a US citizen, was travelling with her young son and three other children back from trip to the Grand Canyon in March 2009 when she and children were detained.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ju ... sfeed=true

As a black man who was once racially profiled and held by police with two other fellas I did not know, who were guilty, I know how these folks feel. Arpaios ilk disgust me, they are the last remnants of what was once a dominant political demographic of the country and they know it.

How much do any of yall wanna bet that this conference atleast in part serves to distract from this court hearing this week?

Judge Mental · **Joined:** Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:29 am **Posts:** 347

Loren wrote:

twinx wrote:

DaveMuckey wrote:

I don't recall a word about Jerome Corsi, and he was conveniently omitted from the Hawaiian Junket Narrative. Is that meaningful in any way?

Corsi was mentioned at around the 40 minute mark.

There's also good reason to believe that Corsi was in the room. He told Peter Boyles this morning that he was presently in Arizona.

Sad I know, but I was actually watching the ustream channel before the conference started and for a full hour or so there were assorted camera feeds running live. I wouldn't swear to it being him as I did not actually see a frontal shot, but Corsi has a somewhat easily recognisable appearance (I'm resisting the temptation of some snark here). There was certainly a rear view of a guy of his height, hair style/colour and general build standing talking with Zullo in front of one of the exhibits in a couple of camera shots.

I was disappointed that about 10 minutes into the one hour feed of the pre-conference preparations it appeared that someone suddenly realised that they had accidentally left the mics feed on too and that anyone watching the channel could hear much of what they were saying to each other during their rehearsal and preparations, because the mic feed was suddenly disconnected at that time. There is a possibility that some of the (private off-air, or so they thought) conversation might have proved quite enlightening had it not been noticed that those mics were running.

Excuse the divergence but at this point I was reminded of something some might find mildly amusing. I was watching a live feed from the USA of The USA Breeders Cup horse races a few years ago while in The Middle East. The commentators and studio presenters did not realise that every time they cut away to commercial breaks or other interruptions the live feed of them and their conversations to The Middle East continued uninterrupted. At one stage in between races they were showing a video of how a stud farm operates. They showed the mare being 'got in the mood' by an ordinary horse and prepared for the introduction of the high value stud stallion to do his stuff, including fitting her rear hooves with big padded bootees so that she did not injure the valuable stallion if she kicked out.

When they then cut to commercial break we could see and hear one of the studio commentators (Johnny Francome)talking with the producer (though we couldn't hear what the producer, 'Bobby' apparently, was saying in reply to him through his earphones.) It went something like this..."So Bobby, did you watch the stud stuff?"..."yeah, me too" (giggle)..."you could get her a pair of those bootees!"(giggle)...."would make her legs look a bit thinner anyway!".

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

Q: Do you think Hawaii will release a formal statement in response to Arpaio's press conference theatrical performance?

I'm conflicted. One one hand, I think it might be best for them to let this flop of a performance fizzle-out on it's own. On the other hand, I'd love to see Hawaii pelt Arapio with a tub of rotten pineapples as he and his fellow cast members so richly deserve.

:-k

richRocket · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:56 am **Posts:** 232

According to ABC 15 in Phoenix, Hawaii issued the following statement in response to today’s press conference:
"The State of Hawaii has repeatedly confirmed the indisputable evidence of President Obama’s birth in Hawaii. An exhaustive accounting of this is provided on the State Department of Health (DOH) website."

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

richRocket wrote:

According to ABC 15 in Phoenix, Hawaii issued the following statement in response to today’s press conference:
"The State of Hawaii has repeatedly confirmed the indisputable evidence of President Obama’s birth in Hawaii. An exhaustive accounting of this is provided on the State Department of Health (DOH) website."

I saw that. That's not the throwing pineapples at Arpaio I was meaning. I meant a full-out counter-assault against Arpaio's ridiculous claims, line-by-line, including the allegation that Hawaii is an open "border state."

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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