Go read the entire explanation at Doc's and see the codes, etc.

Methinks, while I'm sure a nice lady, Verna had an oops or two in her memory. And/or Zullo probably lied to her anyway.

Plus they were talking 1960 re Verna. I had to leave... did they ever say she held the same position in August of '61? I'm assuming she did but just sayin'.

All of this information was available re the codes. Corsi did not have to go dig up some 40-year-old box to find it.

Corsi was mentioned at around the 40 minute mark.

From rough notes:

Zullo said the result of the 'interviews' sent them all off in different directions. Dr Corsi went to the Law Libraries and it was he that made the 'shocking discovery that was not even directly related to BC'... 1955 Revised code...anyone could register a birth if they said they had witnessed it...out of State & out of country births were 'codified as Hawaiian'...Hawaiian BC's are 'worthless in terms of probative value' bla bla.

Corsi was also mentioned at some other point, too. Probably right at the start. I think it was along the lines of 'Dr Corsi paid his own way'.

Thx twinx.

CBS 5 has a story up: http://goo.gl/cKJ3E

(August (and November) of 2011, actually.)

Papit and Donofrio's theological discussion.

Did someone catch the name of the other so called expert? Something Jr?

Thanks. An old and dear friend is help herd the cats in the comments.

Hokay... I haz a question.

Zullo mentioned several times, apparently quite upset about it, that they had showed their credentials to the folks in Hawaii (both in the DOH and at the hospital), and were blown off. I know this must have been discussed here before, but does the fact that someone is a law enforcement officer in another jurisdiction, in another state, give them any - any at all - actual rights in Hawaii? I would think that they have no more or less rights than any out of state visitor. Is that not right? Does Zullo really believe otherwise?

He apparently thinked the AZ folks would flash their badges and the HI folks would just drop trou and bend over? Really?

Actually, no we don't. The coding was only for reporting to the Feds, and the Feds asked for race of the child not the father. Where else would... where else could they go to gather that information than the races of the parents?

This one is easy and unlike so many others does not even require much speculation.

Tim Silletti Jnr (That's what I can make of what I scrawled at the time).

Here's my immediate thoughts on Garrett's pathetic work. (I can call him names, we have crossed swords on several forums).

According to Zullo, Pappit (and the other guy) performed some "600 tests" each that supposedly examined all the "known" optimization algorithms on both MS-Dos and Mac machines. Given that such algorithms behave differently depending on what hardware is used (to include the scanner) what software is used to process create the PDF and then what software is used to optimize it, what operating systems (each version of each operating system is different), what toggles are chosen on the software... well start doing the math. "600 tests" cannot be but the tiniest fraction of a percent of the possible combinations. Conservatively, I calculate there are hundreds of thousands of different possibilities.

Pappit fail.

My guess: Zullo hoped that his claim of being a "professional investigator" and "ex-cop" (decades ago) would gain him a bit of professional courtesy from HI officials and police. IIRC, we haven't found any evidence that Zullo is a licensed private investigator. I don't know how involved the MCSO deputy was with the actual "investigation". It may be that the CCP thought that having an official cop with Zullo and Arpaio would intimidate folks into cooperating with the CCP even when they shouldn't do so by law. I think they hoped that the deputy would convince local police to be very helpful with the CCP "investigation".

Sheriff Joe gave Zullo and Corsi "official" CCP badges, in an attempt to give Zullo and Corsi the appearance of working for law enforcement.

So, yes, Sheriff Joe, Zullo and Corsi believed that flashing their badges would open doors that they had no legal right to enter. They wanted to fake and bully their way through HI. They hoped to confuse people into talking with them. This may have worked with Verna Lee. Zullo said that Corsi spoke with Verna by phone while he, Zullo, listened in and recorded the call.

Sorry BobR, I didn't realise the posted vids aren't of the presser itself, so I can't re-check that name.

He said almost the same thing in March. I don't have the quote. Something like "I need some additional time to determine next steps and who has jurisdiction." LSOS.

Another absolute direct lie from the beginning of the presser: the PR lady said (paraphrase) "Sheriff Arpaio said back in March that they would do everything they could to make sure that the investigation didn't cost taxpayer money (but then an expense became necessary)."

I don't believe Arpaio ever said any such thing -- and I specifically remember him saying multiple times, in different venues, "not one dime of taxpayer money is being spent," "The CCP is all-volunteer, that's the beauty of it," "Those of you concerned that this is costing the county money, well, it's not", ad nauseam.

Did I mention LSOS?

They have no authority whatsoever out of their state. In fact, in my opinion, this stunt that Arpaio has pulled before, sending goons with badges to another state, is basically breaking the law. They are attempting to impersonate law enforcement with authority in a state where they have none. They are entitled to no more professional courtesy than any other out-of-state nutjob who shows up and starts making insane and illegal demands. The only difference is these goons attempted to create the false impression they had any legal authority to make the demands they were making.

While states sometimes do assist the authorities of other states in investigating crimes or otherwise enforcing laws, out of a legal sentiment called "comity," basically just being friendly (in the hopes that if they need a helping hand in the future they may well get it), they are under no legal obligation to do so. That they told Joe's goons to go pound sand was entirely proper.

In fact, I believe Hawaii would have been entirely justified in throwing them in jail and prosecuting them, depending on how exactly they presented their credentials and what claims they made.

No. He doesn't have any rights any different from a normal out of state tourist. There's no proof he called ahead to coordinate with Hawaii Law Enforcement to inform them they're working on a case in their jurisdiction. They also didn't come with any warrant. So no they had no right to anything.

Complete video of the conference.

Can anyone download or record the video?

Yeah I couldn't find the name anywhere

Orly's all over it...

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=189534

I will be forwarding the DVD and transcript of the latest press conference to all 6 courts around the country that have my cases pending

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moron

I can't wait to learn of my disbarment. x a gazillion

There's also good reason to believe that Corsi was in the room. He told Peter Boyles this morning that he was presently in Arizona.

Arpaio's press release.

I've had to lurk today but must send a huge to Pat for just making me laugh for hours with this post. And as you predicted, there was nothing as "breathtaking" as the thought of Jerry sunning at Waikiki. Pat, you remain a true keiki o ka aina.

I forget when it happened but I thought Zullo directed a question to Jerry at one point, trying to clarify when or where Corsi did something. He may have said "Joe" not "Jer" but at the time I definitely thought he said "Jer" or "Jerry" and thought how ridiculous it was that he would ask Corsi to clarify what happened during the "CCP's investigation"