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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:04 pm 
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Well, he found the money somehow. The local paper just published an article saying that he bailed out today. Zimmerman has a 6:00 pm to 6:00 am curfew, can't leave Seminole County nor acquire a passport, cannot step foot onto the local airport and will be monitored electronically.


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Well, he found the money somehow. The local paper just published an article saying that he bailed out today. Zimmerman has a 6:00 pm to 6:00 am curfew, can't leave Seminole County nor acquire a passport, cannot step foot onto the local airport and will be monitored electronically.


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SANFORD, Fla. -- A day after a Florida judge raised George Zimmerman's bond to $1 million dollars, donations to a legal defense fund in Zimmerman's name have gone up by more than a third, according to a statement released Friday by his legal defense team.


The statement was posted on www.gzlegalcase.com, the official website for Zimmerman's legal defense. The website is managed by the law firm of Mark O'Mara, Zimmerman's defense attorney.

According to the statement, supporters donated approximately $20,000 since Thursday, when Seminole County Circuit Judge Kenneth R. Lester, Jr. released his bond ruling.


The number marks -- in only one day's haul -- a sharp spike in donations making up a significant portion of earlier totals.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:14 pm 
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Zimmerman Tried To Buy More Guns After Trayvon Martin Killing

George Zimmerman tried to buy more guns in the weeks after he shot and killed unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin, according to reports released on Thursday morning by prosecutors in his second-degree murder case.

A gun seller told investigators that Zimmerman contacted him in the weeks after the killing drew international attention and told the seller he believed his life was in danger. The reports aren’t clear whether Zimmerman was successful at buying more guns, but they show that police found a folding knife, an FN Herstal pistol and three loaded 5.7x28mm magazines on him when he turned himself into authorities on April 11.


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Zimmerman files motion to disqualify Judge Lester

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Zimmerman files motion to disqualify Judge Lester

It worked for the first judge that Zimmerman wanted disqualified.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:18 pm 
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Zimmerman files motion to disqualify Judge Lester

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100020949/Mot ... ify-Lester


There's a strategy. Hide assets from the court at your bond hearing, have your wife commit perjury, then move to disqualify yet another judge because he takes umbrage at your bad behavior. Seems to me this could keep going and going and delay the trial for decades. :roll:

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Zimmerman files motion to disqualify Judge Lester

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100020949/Mot ... ify-Lester


There's a strategy. Hide assets from the court at your bond hearing, have your wife commit perjury, then move to disqualify yet another judge because he takes umbrage at your bad behavior. Seems to me this could keep going and going and delay the trial for decades. :roll:


Well, if he really wants to keep it going forever he should just hire Dr Orly Tatiz ESQ as his attorney. After all she is an expert in criminal law now too right?

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And, yes, I noticed he speaks like the guys on Cops do when they're summing up their collars. They always recount their experience like they're writing about it in their report - and that's exactly how the murderer Zimmerman spoke.


But questions about whether Zimmerman had actual connections with police or justice system higher-ups that may have influenced the early decision to not charge him were piqued this week with the release of new evidence in the closely-watched case, including an observation by one detective that Zimmerman’s take on the shooting seemed “scripted.”

Documents from the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement suggest indirectly that Zimmerman’s closest adviser in the aftermath of the Trayvon Martin shooting has been a federal agent – a US air marshal and former Seminole County sheriff’s deputy identified by the Miami Herald as a man named Mark Osterman.

Mr. Osterman was at Zimmerman’s side as he returned to the scene of the crime the day after the shooting to go over what happened with detectives.

The Herald also reported that Zimmerman and Osterman were shooting buddies and that, as the Trayvon Martin story broke and the whole country was talking about what George Zimmerman and the Sanford police had done, the neighborhood watch captain took refuge for six weeks at Osterman’s house in Lake Mary.

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Now GZ is a child molester too? :-k
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George Zimmerman Family Friend Says He Molested Her For More Than A Decade

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A woman with close ties to George Zimmerman and his family told investigators that members of Zimmerman’s family were boastfully proud racists and that for more than a decade Zimmerman sexually molested her.
“It started when I was six,” the woman told investigators during an interview on the morning of March 20. “We’d all lay in front of the TV and we had pillows and blankets and he would reach under the blankets and try to do things and I would try to push him off but he was bigger and stronger and older,” the woman said, audibly weeping in the Florida State Attorney's Office interview recording released Monday. “It was in front of everybody and I don’t know how I didn’t say anything, I just didn’t know any better.”


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A woman with close ties to George Zimmerman and his family told investigators that members of Zimmerman’s family were boastfully proud racists ...

I would much like to know what Zimmerman's father, the retired Virginia Supreme Court magistrate, did in the hours after the murder. Phone logs might be helpful. Did George Zimmerman's Father Talk To Sanford Police The Night of Trayvon Martin's Shooting?

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Poor young lady. The RWNJs are going to crucify her, whether it's true or not.

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Poor young lady. The RWNJs are going to crucify her, whether it's true or not.


Yeah. Although I do have to wonder about her timing. Why now?

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Poor young lady. The RWNJs are going to crucify her, whether it's true or not.


Yeah. Although I do have to wonder about her timing. Why now?


She said in the interview that she only came forward after George was first incarcerated, because she never felt safe before that. It's compelling testimony, and she sounds sincere, contending that this has been an open issue throughout their family for years, and they have basically kept quiet.

Much of the alleged molestation occurred when George was a minor, only two years older than her. So I'm not sure what kind of criminal implications are there.

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jtmunkus wrote:
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Poor young lady. The RWNJs are going to crucify her, whether it's true or not.


Yeah. Although I do have to wonder about her timing. Why now?


She said in the interview that she only came forward after George was first incarcerated, because she never felt safe before that. It's compelling testimony, and she sounds sincere, contending that this has been an open issue throughout their family for years, and they have basically kept quiet.

Much of the alleged molestation occurred when George was a minor, only two years older than her. So I'm not sure what kind of criminal implications are there.


While I can't see how this history could be included by the prosecution since it's irrelevant to the case, could it be used to speak to GZ's character if the defense should try to paint him as this innocent, upstanding citizen?

GZ has proven himself to be a liar since day one when he denied any prior arrests, claiming his past was "squeaky clean". He also said that he hadn't been through pre-trial diversion. You have to be nuts to lie to the police, thinking they won't verify what you've said. Is this a sign of arrogance due to his ability to skate from all prior charges? One of the first statements out of GZ's mouth according to one of the witnesses was, "I had to shoot him, it was self-defense." Since when is killing someone with a handgun self defense during a fist fight? The entire SYG law needs to be tossed as it has enabled the killing of over 90 unarmed citizens in the state of Florida since its inception.

I'm hoping we'll find out why GZ was estranged from his parents and brother prior to the shooting. Could it have something to do with the alleged molestation charges?

How many people think GZ will take the stand in his own defense? I'm of the opinion that he will want to do so and might go against his attorney's recommendation. He's arrogant enough to believe he could meet with the police without being represented by an attorney, so it's quite possible, IMO. The question will be whether or not O'Mara can protect him from himself. This is a guy whose wife is saying things like, "Dang, you're a big celebrity now." Has all this so-called fame gone to his head?

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The question will be whether or not O'Mara can protect him from himself. This is a guy whose wife is saying things like, "Dang, you're a big celebrity now." Has all this so-called fame gone to his head?


I sure hope so. I want to see this racist, murdering, child-molesting piece of shit go to prison for life. He appears to be going along with this plan.

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The question will be whether or not O'Mara can protect him from himself. This is a guy whose wife is saying things like, "Dang, you're a big celebrity now." Has all this so-called fame gone to his head?


I sure hope so. I want to see this racist, murdering, child-molesting piece of shit go to prison for life. He appears to be going along with this plan.


Same here. I want GZ on the witness stand trying to explain away all his lies and discrepancies. His ego may trump his attorney's advice to not testify. That's what I'm really hoping to see. Given enough rope, Zimmerman will hang himself. Aside from his ego, he deserves a couple decades behind bars for taking an innocent life in his rush to play judge, jury and executioner.

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he deserves a couple decades behind bars for taking an innocent life in his rush to play judge, jury and executioner.

We probably need to take a step back here and keep our emotions in check. The old pot/kettle phrase kinda applies.

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How many people think GZ will take the stand in his own defense? I'm of the opinion that he will want to do so and might go against his attorney's recommendation.


Some of the attorneys here feel that the State's case is fairly weak because the spotty police investigation, and as long as GZ stays off the stand he'll probably walk. O'Mara seems to have reasonable control over his client now, so unless something changes significantly between now and the trial my guess would be that GZ doesn't testify.

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He's arrogant enough to believe he could meet with the police without being represented by an attorney, so it's quite possible, IMO. The question will be whether or not O'Mara can protect him from himself. This is a guy whose wife is saying things like, "Dang, you're a big celebrity now." Has all this so-called fame gone to his head?


Could be. I know O'Mara wasn't his first attorney, and I seem to recall that he wasn't exactly the best client. This latest motion to disqualify the court is interesting. I would think that asking a judge to rule himself disqualified comes with some significant risks, but the Real AttorneysTM here can probably speak to this. Nevertheless, it's pretty arrogant, which seems to fit both GZ's and O'Mara's personalities.

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Prosecutors released nearly 150 of George Zimmerman’s recorded jailhouse phone calls Monday, including one that suggests his defense attorney knew from the start that tens of thousands of dollars in donations had begun pouring in.

In a phone call recorded April 14 between Zimmerman and a friend named Scott, the two discuss the new defense lawyer and the attorney’s vision for an upcoming bond hearing. Zimmerman tells his friend that he told his new attorney, Mark O’Mara, that he tried to transfer $37,000 from his online legal defense fund site, but could not complete the transaction because of PayPal rules that prevent transfers larger than $10,000.

He twice mentions telling O’Mara about the money.

“He said he’s going to have me declared indigent,” Zimmerman told his friend. “I told him I didn’t think that would be possible, because there was one sizable transfer I tried to make. It got stopped. You know, $37. He said: ‘Well that doesn’t matter. Right now you’re not working. You’re not providing an income for your family. You’re probably not going to be employable for the rest of your life.’”


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he deserves a couple decades behind bars for taking an innocent life in his rush to play judge, jury and executioner.

We probably need to take a step back here and keep our emotions in check. The old pot/kettle phrase kinda applies.


Major difference ... none of us are holding Zimmerman at gunpoint. At least I don't think anyone here is.

Actions and thoughts are separate issues. My opinion is only my opinion. There is no pot/kettle comparison to be made.

I will let a jury decide Zimmerman's legal guilt/innocence. I have my opinions. They are subject to change as more evidence is revealed. But I'm not censoring myself and my opinion is of no consequence to Zimmerman.

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Fluent in Spanish, in one call he lamented to his sister that their parents did not give him a proper Hispanic name like “Jorge.” If America had understood he was Latino, the entire ugly affair over the shooting death of Trayvon Martin could have been avoided, he said.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2 ... rylink=cpy

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Rut roh

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Jail call says defense attorney knew about Zimmerman’s hidden money


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2 ... rylink=cpy


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Fluent in Spanish, in one call he lamented to his sister that their parents did not give him a proper Hispanic name like “Jorge.” If America had understood he was Latino, the entire ugly affair over the shooting death of Trayvon Martin could have been avoided, he said.

Zimmerman is charged with second degree murder for the Feb. 26 killing of the Miami Gardens teenager. The charges came only after weeks of protests by civil rights activists, people who Zimmerman said wrongly believed him to be “white.”

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On the phone, Zimmerman prayed with Jones and asked him to give America time to heal.

“I was calling as one God-fearing sinner to another for time for healing, not just for the city of Sanford, for America,” Zimmerman said. “I know your intentions are good.”

He was inspired by the biblical story of Jesus calming the storms, he said. Jesus, he said, wanted everyone to calm the storms.

Zimmerman asked Jones to come visit him in the jail instead.


Pastor Jones is the "Quran Burning" pastor who recently created a grave for Obama.

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neonzx wrote:
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he deserves a couple decades behind bars for taking an innocent life in his rush to play judge, jury and executioner.

We probably need to take a step back here and keep our emotions in check. The old pot/kettle phrase kinda applies.


GZ concluded that Trayvon Martin was suspicious, on drugs and just one of those assholes who always gets away within the first couple minutes of viewing him walking on the sidewalk in the rain. He then followed him, became involved in a confrontation with him, and despite minimal injuries wants us to believe he had no choice but to shoot and kill an innocent young man, just 3 wks after his 17th birthday. My conclusions are based on GZ's continued lying from the night of the shooting, his discrepancies between NEN call and video re-enactment, his efforts to hide money and mislead the court as to whether or not he had any money or a valid passport. I'm not jumping to conclusions so I'll have to stand by what I said, not believing this is a "pot calling the kettle black" situation. GZ's lack of remorse upon being informed that he was dead wrong about TM only reinforced my feelings about the situation. Hopefully that explains my desire to see him pay for his crimes since Trayvon Martin's life was taken without a second thought, IMO.

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Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2 ... rylink=cpy


From the same article:

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On the phone, Zimmerman prayed with Jones and asked him to give America time to heal.

“I was calling as one God-fearing sinner to another for time for healing, not just for the city of Sanford, for America,” Zimmerman said. “I know your intentions are good.”

He was inspired by the biblical story of Jesus calming the storms, he said. Jesus, he said, wanted everyone to calm the storms.

Zimmerman asked Jones to come visit him in the jail instead.


Pastor Jones is the "Quran Burning" pastor who recently created a grave for Obama.


He actually said to Jones, "I know your intentions are good" ?!?!? :shock: If that doesn't prove he's a terrible judge of character, nothing will. :sick:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:34 am 
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We probably need to take a step back here and keep our emotions in check. The old pot/kettle phrase kinda applies.

Where is there a pot on TFB (of whatever color)? I don't see what you advise as pertinent to what people have been posting.

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