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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:06 pm 
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So today the NSA released some documents under the FIOA which include details warning the administration beyond the August memo before 9/11.

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/19/new_nsa ... singleton/
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Over 120 CIA documents concerning 9/11, Osama bin Laden and counterterrorism were published today for the first time, having been newly declassified and released to the National Security Archive. The documents were released after the NSA pored through the footnotes of the 9/11 Commission and sent Freedom of Information Act requests.

The material contains much new information about the hunt before and after 9/11 for bin Laden, the development of the drone campaign in AfPak, and al-Qaida’s relationship with America’s ally, Pakistan. Perhaps most damning are the documents showing that the CIA had bin Laden in its cross hairs a full year before 9/11 — but didn’t get the funding from the Bush administration White House to take him out or even continue monitoring him. The CIA materials directly contradict the many claims of Bush officials that it was aggressively pursuing al-Qaida prior to 9/11, and that nobody could have predicted the attacks. “I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released, because they paint a picture of the CIA knowing something would happen before 9/11, but they didn’t get the institutional support they needed,” says Barbara Elias-Sanborn, the NSA fellow who edited the materials.

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Many of the documents publicize for the first time what was first made clear in the 9/11 Commission: The White House received a truly remarkable amount of warnings that al-Qaida was trying to attack the United States. From June to September 2001, a full seven CIA Senior Intelligence Briefs detailed that attacks were imminent, an incredible amount of information from one intelligence agency. One from June called “Bin-Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats” writes that “[redacted] expects Usama Bin Laden to launch multiple attacks over the coming days.” The famous August brief called “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike the US” is included. “Al-Qai’da members, including some US citizens, have resided in or travelled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure here,” it says. During the entire month of August, President Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Texas — which tied with one of Richard Nixon’s as the longest vacation ever taken by a president. CIA Director George Tenet has said he didn’t speak to Bush once that month, describing the president as being “on leave.” Bush did not hold a Principals’ meeting on terrorism until September 4, 2001, having downgraded the meetings to a deputies’ meeting, which then-counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke has repeatedly said slowed down anti-Bin Laden efforts “enormously, by months.”

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/19/new_nsa ... 11_truths/

Oh, and Condi Rice has taken credit for the Predator program ..... uh, no. Clinton Admin period.

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On leave ????

The President is NEVER on "leave" :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:38 pm 
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Ashcroft was too busy covering breasts on statues and pursuing prostitution arrests in New Orleans.


Not to spend too much time defending Ashcroft, as I am no fan of the guy, but he was basically pressured to sign off on the worst Bush Klan abuses, while in an intensive care ward, and refused to do it because it was unconstitutional.

On the night of March 10, 2004, as Attorney General John D. Ashcroft lay ill in an intensive-care unit, his deputy, James B. Comey, received an urgent call.

White House Counsel Alberto R. Gonzales and President Bush's chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., were on their way to the hospital to persuade Ashcroft to reauthorize Bush's domestic surveillance program, which the Justice Department had just determined was illegal.

In vivid testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday, Comey said he alerted FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III and raced, sirens blaring, to join Ashcroft in his hospital room, arriving minutes before Gonzales and Card. Ashcroft, summoning the strength to lift his head and speak, refused to sign the papers they had brought. Gonzales and Card, who had never acknowledged Comey's presence in the room, turned and left.


Now, anyone here who has been in an ICU and been pressured to sign off on violating the Constitution, who refused to do so, can say they'd have done a better job. I doubt we have anyone here who has, though. Ashcroft may have had a very weird, distorted idea of what the Constitution is, but he had the guts to refuse to sign off on just violating it at whim. Even on what might have been his deathbed.

I don't cut Ashcroft much slack, but the man clearly had some character and loyalty to this country.

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