Loren,

You forgot the worst insults in the RWNJ vocabulary....HE"S A PROGRESSIVE AND A LIBERAL.......

Thanks for the kind words.

Yes, "kaleo" means "voice," so kaleokualoha means "voice of aloha" or "voice of love." My father's autobiography, "Livin' The Blues," also contains extensive impressions of the racial climate in Hawaii.

Unfortunately, both of those are still a lie.

Despite that, I say give him another chance to pull the football out from under us.

while birfers generally are ready to swallow any smear against obama, as has been noted before it's curious where individual nutcases seem to reach their fill:









"brain and cognitive thinking, and perhaps political views" ... ... there's just no halfway with these people.

Gilbert on Alex Jones:



- I've never seen Alex Jones as excited over a story as this.
- Gilbert displays his ignorance of his own subject by claiming that there's no evidence whatsoever that Obama Sr. was the dad apart from the visit in the 1970s.
- Gilbert claims that Obama's name is evidence that he wasn't Senior's biological son, because he was named "Obama II" not "Obama Jr."
- He says the fetish photos came via researchers on Usenet, but doesn't offer any more info as to their origins.
- He repeatedly refers to the couches matching, but the most he does to illustrate this is to briefly flash a photo of Davis sitting down.
- Gilbert's entire thesis seems to be built around the belief that Marxism is hereditary.

Are they claiming that they know who Obama's real father is but Obama doesn't? Or that Obama found out and preferred to keep up the pretense that the senior Obama was his father?

Yes.

Is that a 'yes' to both theories although they contradict each other?

Indeed.

Contradiction??? Not in Birfistan.

I canna watch that...thing. Alex Jones is so smarmy and arrogant and...wrong

The rest is also on YouTube.

That was interesting. Was there evidence that Stanley Armor Dunham was in the CIA pre-2008? Or that the family lived in Lebanon?

Pffftttt... You say that like evidence has any bearing on the matter.

Well, I'm thinking of doing a Special Report, except that might be drawing too much attention to the topic.

I think you're right. Part 1 of the video has less than 100 views currently.

As best as I can tell...no. As you surely notice in the video, Gilbert has the narrator *say* a lot of stuff about Stanley being in the CIA and in Air Force Intelligence, but he cites no sources and shows no evidence. The ONLY thing he offers as support is the logo on Ann's outfit, which he thinks says NDJ, which he thinks stands for some private French-language school in Lebanon, and from which he concludes that the family must have lived in Lebanon.



My thought is that there's not even enough here to rebut. It's not like Gilbert has some spurious documents or anomalous findings; he just made crap up. If WND or Arpaio decides to run with it, sure, but until then it's just random nonsense.

It's barely registering on Yahoo Answers. I think it might be too far out for anyone but the rabidly nutty.

This meme started with Orly in late December 2008. The "architectural" details of the window behind the Dunham family and the pattern of the print on the curtains supposedly are Middle Eastern.

They look just like the window and curtains of the house in Memphis that my family lived in during the late 1950's. My mom must have been influenced by Lebanese design when she decorated our home.

My cute little plaid jumper school uniform for St. Stephens looked just like Ann's.

I'm working my way through this to take notes, and man, this is even more outrageous than I'd imagined. Gilbert creates whole meetings and conversations out of thin air, and then describes what was said and done in these imagined meetings.

I'm pausing mid-video-3 to share my amusement that Gilbert has pushed the Obama/Ayers connection further back than anyone else I've seen. Jack Cashill initially suggested that they were close enough for Ayers to ghostwrite his book in 1994. Then later Cashill, with Allen Hulton's assist, pushed that relationship back to the late 1980s, with Ayers' father funding Obama's law tuition. I've seen some other speculation that they knew each other in the 1980s through boards or something.

Gilbert, however, says that Obama and Ayers first met on June 1, 1982, following a rally in New York. And that they talked at length afterward, when Obama told Ayers that his real dad was Frank Marshall Davis, and so Ayers put Obama on the phone with his dad, who said to call him if Obama ever needed anything.

OK, I've finished watching, and this may surprise you, but I honestly recommend that folks here try watching it. I absolutely would not recommend that anyone in the general public watch it, but I think a lot of people here might find it worthwhile.

Because frankly, this is the closest thing I've seen to a "Loose Change"-style attack on Obama's roots. It's *incredibly* conspiratorial, and hardly sourced at all. Gilbert doesn't merely 'ask questions'; he manufactures a wholly parallel life narrative for Obama, and does so with absolutely no factual support. If nothing else, in the midst of the regurgitated crap from the CCP, it's certainly *original* nonsense. It's also mildly racist in a way that most professional Birther efforts aren't (he actually uses the term "Jive Turkey" in part 4).

One thing to note in watching it: Gilbert will frequently show text on the screen that the narrator is quoting. Oftentimes, that's not sourced material; it's Gilbert's own 'script' for the film. But if you aren't paying close attention, the impression given is that he's quoting from some neutral source, and he's not.

And because I like to catch conspiracists crossing the line into outright and intentional dishonesty, there's a point at about 13:15 into Part 5 where Gilbert's playing part of an Obama speech, and Obama says "The free market, it doesn't work. It has never worked." That struck me as so outrageous that I had to look it up.

And I found that it's not a real quote. Despite the fact that Gilbert plays the audio of Obama saying it, and even includes some video. Because Gilbert spliced the audio together. Obama was indeed talking about laissez-faire capitalism and trickle-down economics, but Gilbert took the words "The free market" from elsewhere in the speech, and then cut the parts together to make it sound like Obama had explicitly denounced market economics entirely. That offense alone should demonstrate the kind of 'documentarian' on display here.

oh Loren, you sold it to me. But I can't watch it now. I hope I remember to watch it later this week.

I watched the first couple earlier today. I attribute my current brain-dead-ness to that. If the Damn Yankees weren't messing up the neighborhood with their double-header, I'd go out looking for a bar.

And it's not a very new claim either. The PUMA crowd was making this claim in 2008, and Dr. Orly reposted a "DefendUSx" article of 24 March 2009 that had this claim as well:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=5171
http://www.meetup.com/Houston-Tea-Party ... ad/7024296



Wayne Madsen brought it up on 19 August 2010

http://www.newsbuster.com/pages/content ... ation.html

What is PUMA?