HIZ HONOR Gary Kreep

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9708

Dr. Blue wrote:

Curious Blue wrote:

Kreep now has a 1,088 vote lead with only 4,000 votes left to count. Statistically very unlikely that Peed would make that up - he'd need to have roughly 78% of the remaining votes to pull it off.

Actually, he only needs about 64% of the remaining vote. Not that it really matters, but I just gotta be a math weenie...

I think we're safe in calling the race for Kreep unless there is some reason this particular pocket of votes represents some sort of a Peed enclave.

chinacreekpj · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm **Posts:** 1334

it's not a primary

esseff44 · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:32 am

Local non-partisan contests are not treated the same way as partisan 'voter-nominated' offices. If Kreep got more than 50%, he's considered elected. I am not sure what happens when a candidate in one of these non-partisan contests gets less than 50%. Does anybody know if there is a run-off or not?

From Ca SoS website:

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Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act and Voter-Nominated Offices

On June 8, 2010, California voters approved Proposition 14, which created the Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act.

Except for the office of U.S. President and county central committee offices, offices that used to be known as "partisan offices" (e.g., state constitutional offices, U.S. Congress, and state legislative offices) are now known as "voter-nominated" offices.

Under the Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act, all candidates running in a primary election, regardless of their party preference, will appear on a single Primary Election ballot and voters can vote for any candidate. The top two overall vote-getters – not the top vote-getter from each qualified party and anyone using the independent nomination process – will move on to the General Election.

Candidates for voter-nominated office must indicate their party preference or lack of party preference on the primary and general election ballots. Political parties can no longer formally nominate candidates for voter-nominated offices, so a candidate who finishes in the top two at the primary election and advances to the general election is not the official nominee of any party for the office.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/npp.htm

Also, the rules vary from state to state and are constantly changing. It is very hard for the average voter to keep up.

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9708

If anyone can think of a a better argument that judges should not be elected, I'd like to hear it.

For now, Gary the Kreep is my perfect example of an incompetent lunatic being elected to the bench.

bob · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:47 pm

ORYR comments:

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RS wrote:

I took a gander at FoG DUmb land and they are whining and crying. LoL.

AR925 wrote:

Hahahaha!!! Even the MOST Lib state is finally waking up! By george, that's good news! Yeah RS, I'm sure FogBlow is blowing up over this one. LOL

Joe wrote:

Well, I think it is still pretty close but statistically Mr. Kreep should win it.

There goes one of our fighters of the truth. He will be getting a nice steady paycheck now and won't have to beg people for donations anymore to live. We only had a few attorneys with brass and resources to do these cases, oh well.

Illegal aliens will become President some day. You'll see.

Adelante · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:35 pm

You'd never hear it from me. When I was young, I worked at court reform for a high muckety-muck, mostly Republican, legal non-profit. A primary goal of the organization was merit selection of judges. I could never have dreamed that all these decades later that goal is still out of reach. Shame.

A Legal Lohengrin wrote:

If anyone can think of a a better argument that judges should not be elected, I'd like to hear it.

Curious Blue · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:09 pm

A Legal Lohengrin wrote:

If anyone can think of a a better argument that judges should not be elected, I'd like to hear it.

Yes, because the process of appointment brings us such find legal scholars as Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. Who are, of course, appointed for life, as opposed to being elected for 6 years.

Edit: Here's a link to an article that explains the process of Judicial selection in California. http://www.judicialselection.us/judicia ... m?state=CA

I'd note that in my day I've known quite a few terrible Judges, many of whom were appointed by Republican governors. Though in fairness, Democratic governors have managed to appoint a few duds on their own. Here in Northern California, the election process has yielded a few liberals on the bench who never would have stood a chance otherwise.

Adelante · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:08 pm

I don't think politicians should be anywhere near judicial selection. I'd rather see a panel of retired judges, bar association leaders, criminal justice professionals and reformers.

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10764

Adelante wrote:

I don't think politicians should be anywhere near judicial selection. I'd rather see a panel of retired judges, bar association leaders, criminal justice professionals and reformers.

Ah, but who would appoint the panel?

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:39 pm

I like the choice of photo that chinacreek's Birther Headlines has up.

Judge Kreep with a Birfers Dummett and Noonan.

Offtopic :

I do still wonder what Kreep does with his money?

Go visit the Birther Headlines:
http://birtherheadlines.blogspot.com/

chinacreekpj · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm **Posts:** 1334

Thx mimi.

I wonder how much salary Kreep will get as a judge? I think circuit court judges get over 100 grand, but a County judge likely gets considerably less. Given that Kreep makes a couple 100 grand or more from fundraising, won't this be a demotion for him? I wonder if he planned to lose?

kate520 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:06 am

Dummay looks like Grandpa Munster, non?

chinacreekpj · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm **Posts:** 1334

A sweaty Grandpa Munster, lol

Whenever I look at Ed Noonan I think of this guy:

Matt Foley or The Guy Who Lives In The Van Down By The River

Adrianinflorida · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:00 am

On a positive note, if anyone ever appears before Kreep in a criminal case, where they waive a jury trial, all they have to do is blame their crime on the Usurpin' Mofo (tm), and the judge will accquit.

mimi · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:43 am

chinacreekpj wrote:

Thx mimi.

I wonder how much salary Kreep will get as a judge? I think circuit court judges get over 100 grand, but a County judge likely gets considerably less. Given that Kreep makes a couple 100 grand or more from fundraising, won't this be a demotion for him? I wonder if he planned to lose?

I wondered about that too. Yeah, he makes a couple hundred thousand. How much power can he wield as a judge to make it worthwhile?

esseff44 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:09 am

http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/200 ... m7pay.html

This is a 2007 aticle:

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The San Diego County Regional Airport Authority also pays its three executive board members the full amount – $171,648 – of a judge's salary.

I saw somewhere it is now about $178,000.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcou ... 518ea.html

mimi · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:48 am

ahhh, well that's interesting.

thanks esseff.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:04 pm

Some counties supplement that. I think L.A. County does to the tune of about $65K. At one point that was contrary to law, so the law was recently changed.

raicha · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:10 pm

Offtopic :

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

Some counties supplement that. I think L.A. County does to the tune of about $65K. At one point that was contrary to law, so the law was recently changed.

Wasn't that part of the Richard Fine kerfuffle?

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23930

raicha wrote:

Offtopic :

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

Some counties supplement that. I think L.A. County does to the tune of about $65K. At one point that was contrary to law, so the law was recently changed.

Wasn't that part of the Richard Fine kerfuffle?

His. Honor. Gary. Kreep.

;;)

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:17 pm

We are discussing how much money Judge Gary Kreep will make as a superior court judge and whether it will constitute an increase or decrease in what he gets paid now. My comment talked about supplementation of a judge's salary by some counties. I'd be interested in knowing if San Diego County will supplement Judge Kreep's salary. So, I think my comments are clearly on topic.

And, yes, that was one of the things Fine complained about.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23930

Oh, don't get your panties in a wad over your post being on topic or not.

I was just jerking raicha's chain a little. It was a joke, I say a joke, son.

http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/itsajoke.wav

bob · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:46 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

We are discussing how much money Judge Gary Kreep will make as a superior court judge and whether it will constitute an increase or decrease in what he gets paid now. My comment talked about supplementation of a judge's salary by some counties. I'd be interested in knowing if San Diego County will supplement Judge Kreep's salary. So, I think my comments are clearly on topic.

I believe the supplements were ruled unconstitutional. (And, IIRC, the enacted state law was meant to prevent liability for those who enacted and took advantage of the supplements; it did not restore them).

Offtopic :

Quote:

And, yes, that was one of the things Fine complained about.

It was the basis of the paper terrorism that eventually got Fine disbarred (and, downwind, jailed).

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5351

Some reading material for the new regime

rajah · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:26 pm

At least it will keep him off the street.
Regards ............Dick

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