Birther Potpourri

everalm · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:37 pm

Ahhhhh, an escapee from FEMA Camp 7 1/2.....

Silverbull(shit)8 was a poster here a little over a year ago, see that levels of idiocy haven't changed any

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:18 pm

If you haven't had a chance to read Wolf's post on Birtherism, give it a looksie!

http://aliberalthinker.wordpress.com/20 ... d-reality/

I think Wolf did a great job. :-bd

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:25 pm

raw story:

Maher: Conservative disrespect for President Obama is rooted in racism

Quote:

Maher said that the whole controversy is essentially a waste of time. “I would just like to say, the problem with racism is not Gwyneth Paltrow,” he said, “The problem with racism is Matt Drudge.”

snip

Quote:

Drudge’s relevance has declined steeply in recent years and Maher gave us a quick demonstration as to why. A quick tour of some recent cover photos from Drudge’s website revealed “Mike Tyson, looking like he’s going to eat your head,” said Maher, “Oh, yes, Louis Farrakhan, because he’s so relevant now. Oh and Marion Barry, he’s in the news every day also.” It was a depressing parade of glowering, angry-looking African American men, who Drudge appears to feel are the greatest threat facing our society.

The point Maher made is that ultimately, this is the only way a lot of conservatives are capable of seeing the president, and it’s at the root of the blatant disrespect some of them have shown him since he took office. From South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson (R), who shouted “You lie!” at Obama during his first State of the Union address to Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) pointing her finger in his face on an airport tarmac to yesterday’s incident wherein a staff member from Tucker Carlson’s blog “The Daily Caller” heckled the president during a Rose Garden signing ceremony, conservatives apparently only respect authority when it’s being wielded by white people.

remainder, including clip from the show:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/16/m ... -in-racism

clip also at mediaite:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-t ... tt-drudge/

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3932

Obama in 1994:

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10764

Well, so much for the birther claim that President Obama never worked in the private sector. He also spoke in a far less guarded fashion back then. What a wonderfully intelligent person he is.

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5351

That's what before or after the conspiracy replaced him with his evil twin?

Dallasite · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:30 am

Suranis wrote:

That's what before or after the conspiracy replaced him with his evil twinthe reptilian shapeshifter?

FIFY

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:29 am

Loren wrote:

Obama in 1994:

Nice find. Just out of law school, after he ran Project Vote in Chicago. Mentions at least one that his father was born in Kenya but no hint of himself born there. He'd been married for year. Refers to himself as teaching a course at the University of Chicago, not that he was a professor.

chinacreekpj · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm **Posts:** 1334

I don't know where to post this, but hey it's a story all about all of us!

Quote:

Raleigh-based anti-birther website has global reach

RALEIGH -- More than a year after President Barack Obama produced a copy of his birth certificate documenting his arrival on Earth in a Honolulu hospital in 1961, the conspiracy theory persists that his citizenship is bogus, a forgery, a fiction, a liberal plot involving Kenya, Indonesia, Communists and Malcolm X.

So from his North Raleigh home, Bill Bryan keeps up a spirited fight against this line of thinking known as the “birther” movement, piloting what is probably the best-known online counterpunch: The Fogbow.

Nearly two years old, with roughly 300 members worldwide, Bryan’s Fogbow exists to shove a burr under the saddle of birthers and their intractable belief that Obama wasn’t born in the United States, and Bryan provides detailed and wildly funny attacks.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/17/ ... rylink=cpy

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:31 am

chinacreekpj wrote:

I don't know where to post this, but hey it's a story all about all of us!
<snip>
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/17/ ... rylink=cpy

Oh what fun, they're all showing up. Tracy Fair, ex animo Farhar, I'm sure Lena will be screeching about it before the week is half done.

Foggy · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:49 am

I took advantage of Trump's birtherizing at the NC GOP State Convention to call my local paper and sell them on exactly what the writer found most intriguing: "my city is ground zero for an international effort aimed at skewering bad ideas that won’t go away".

I'm hoping this will be useful in the near future. It seems, as I said the other day, that the lawyers fighting birtherism have caught on to the debunking info we've been trying to spread, and have a coherent approach that uses past failures against the birthers in a way that highlights the abuse of our court system.

But the MSM hasn't caught on yet. They're still woefully unprepared, most of 'em. Maybe this will help bring them around.

He made up some quotes, but I like them. That "he hasn’t gotten born with birthers yet" should be "bored," of course. And he said our community is only two years old, when we'll be four in January.

But on the whole, I like it. Nobody in the MSM who counts will read the comments.

Sugar Magnolia · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:13 am

Foggy wrote:

:D

But on the whole, I like it. Nobody in the MSM who counts will read the comments.

It was a good article, but I disagree about the MSM reading the comments. I would like to think that any real journalist worth his salt would read the comments. It gives them a broader view of the range of opinions and lets them see the true level of ignorance and insanity involved in the issue. Comments to articles also frequently give real reporters useful links (pretty sure I found Fogbow from a link in a news article) to other information that can be used to inform future stories. I would much prefer to read a piece of journalism that is well-grounded in all aspects of the issue, rather than than a fluff piece with no background.

An MSM outlet with all the information, good, bad and ugly, is more likely to be able to counter the batshit accusations, too.

Foggy · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:29 am

Dang it, the subhead says "Fogbow.com" not "TheFogbow.com". Grr.

Ah well, cain't have everything. People who google will find us, even though there IS a Fogbow.com that redirects to FogStar.com (and I stumbled across a rock band named Fogbow on Facebook the other day).

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:55 am

Foggy wrote:

Dang it, the subhead says "Fogbow.com" not "TheFogbow.com". Grr.

Ah well, cain't have everything. People who google will find us, even though there IS a Fogbow.com that redirects to FogStar.com (and I stumbled across a rock band named Fogbow on Facebook the other day).

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Whatever4 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:40 am

Foggy wrote:

Dang it, the subhead says "Fogbow.com" not "TheFogbow.com". Grr.

Ah well, cain't have everything. People who google will find us, even though there IS a Fogbow.com that redirects to FogStar.com (and I stumbled across a rock band named Fogbow on Facebook the other day).

Because as you know, journalists are always 100% correct when they write something.

jtmunkus · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:43 am

Is it just me not finding it, or did the NewsObserver pull a couple of KBOA's comments? =))

I waded through all the pages, and it looks like at least one nasty comment was pulled..

Quote:

Comment removed.

BEL062647
Sir/Madam, You too are a nut. Neighbor BELO

logosisdead
Um.... aside from all the fake stuff you posted, facts don't smell. You can wake up and smell the coffee, but you can't really smell facts. It can be said that your lies, however, do stink.

Andrew Huff
Please do send me that evidence. I would be delighted to see what passes as evidence in your world.
GreatGrey
Shoulda known Tracy would show up.

How's your Maryland ballot challenge going?

esseff44 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:45 am

It seems that the URL has been corrected, no? It worked for me just now.

Shagnastie · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:48 am

Hard to say this enough ... Thanks for this forum that does so much for all of us, Foggy! (and same to all who contribute!)

:wenotworthy:

Roboe · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:38 pm

mimi wrote:

I saw this 'report' by the performance artist who goes by the name "Lord Monckton".

pdf via Lucas Smith's scribd:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/96994813/Is-t ... -June-2012

(I believe he was warned about using that fake logo.)

He's indeed a hereditary peer, but he's not allowed to sit or vote in the House of Lords*, which he otherwise spent a fair while pretending (including when he testified to some congressional commitee). He's changed the logo slightly (the chains used to be straight down), presumably to try and get around the warning he recieved about it beeing too close to the House of Lords logo (as can be seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UKHOL_logo.png )

* A result of the 1999 reform, which Monckton believes is flawed and thus doesn't apply to him. Which doesn't explain why he then, if he was already a voting member, tried to get elected to the House of Lords, recieving exactly zero votes.

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:09 pm

Someone (Verbie? Loren?) did a spectacular post saying that the information on the BC was what was important, not the PDF or zerox. I can't find it, and I want to put it on the HPs. HELP!

jtmunkus · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:35 pm

jtmunkus wrote:

Is it just me not finding it, or did the NewsObserver pull a couple of KBOA's comments? =))

I waded through all the pages, and it looks like at least one nasty comment was pulled..

The mods at the NewsObserver are not being easy on the Corn. She's lost five or six comments, like "Foggy's a commie," "Hawai'i's not a state," etc.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:40 pm

Whatever4 wrote:

Someone (Verbie? Loren?) did a spectacular post saying that the information on the BC was what was important, not the PDF or zerox. I can't find it, and I want to put it on the HPs. HELP!

This is the most recent post of mine you said you liked, and it's not about that. I don't think it was me.

BillTheCat · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:25 pm **Posts:** 1452

jtmunkus wrote:

Is it just me not finding it, or did the NewsObserver pull a couple of KBOA's comments? =))

I waded through all the pages, and it looks like at least one nasty comment was pulled..

The mods at the NewsObserver are not being easy on the Corn. She's lost five or six comments, like "Foggy's a commie," "Hawai'i's not a state," etc.

Um, I seem to be missing something here. No comments, no comment section, no button to see a comment section. Was it removed? :-?

BillTheCat · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:25 pm **Posts:** 1452

BillTheCat wrote:

jtmunkus wrote:

Is it just me not finding it, or did the NewsObserver pull a couple of KBOA's comments? =))

I waded through all the pages, and it looks like at least one nasty comment was pulled..

The mods at the NewsObserver are not being easy on the Corn. She's lost five or six comments, like "Foggy's a commie," "Hawai'i's not a state," etc.

Um, I seem to be missing something here. No comments, no comment section, no button to see a comment section. Was it removed? :-?

Edit: Just checked on Firefox - still no comments. Unless I'm mistaken, looks like they took comments down.

Sequoia32 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:03 pm

BillTheCat wrote:

Um, I seem to be missing something here. No comments, no comment section, no button to see a comment section. Was it removed? :-?

Yeah, think so. I refreshed the page and *poof* pages and pages and pages of comments gone.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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