It's never going to happen because you can't have evidence of something that never happened.

It's as if the MSDC wanted to give me a birfday present on 6/6. How very sweet of them!

And SHIZZAM! This is a pleading to stir up the birfers. I was running low on birfer tears. The timing is just perfect!

I think the theory is that 'original' microfilm ( by which I think they mean microfilm that dates from the time that the microfilm was created ?? ) is harder to fake?

So say the records were microfilmed (if they were ever microfilmed) in 1971. And say they got access, and opened the right reel, and found Obama's BC right there among the Nordykes and the Waidelichs and the Sunaharas, and there was no obvious evidence of splicing, tampering, aging, etc.

They would be forced to...

Exactly. They are operating from a presupposition that he was not born in Hawaii, yet microfilm would only be available if he had a Hawaiian birth certificate, and it would not be possible to tell from the microfilm whether the original birth certificate was genuine. So when it shows an image exactly like the one posted online, they would simply claim that the birth certificate had beena fake from the beginning. The only way they will accept the microfilm as genuine is if it does not contain a record for the president. Orly will never accept any evidence that contradicts her enshrined beliefs because this has become her life. Hher whole identity is wrapped up in being the birther queen, and nothing else in her life is meaningful any longer. She has likely alienated everyone who once cared for her. She cannot even go on a vacation to see her family without logging on repeatedly to be the birther queen, and I have no doubt she never shuts up about it to anyone within earshot. When President Obama is finally out of office and no one cares about birthers anymore, she will be lost.

Frankly, it reminds me of when I was a guild leader in Warcraft. I was the only female guild leader on the server and ran a hardcore raiding guild. Everyone always needed me, and I felt like I always had to be available for my "followers." I neglected everything and everyone because my life was so wrapped up in being guild leader. I even hung out with guildmates in real life. Finally, I woke up and realized that none of this people really cared about me and that what I was doing was nothing more than helping people play a game. So I quit, and life got much better.

None of Orly's followers are her friends, and she is not truly doing anything meaningful because she is pursuing a farce. When no one needs her to carry out her craziness (because no serious, qualified attorney would pursue these cases and spend that kind of time and money yet demand nothing from her followers), she will find none of these people cared about her. She was just a means to an end, and not a very good one at that. We've already seen how other birthers are increasing their distance from her no that she has become nothing more than a punchline.

Look at the clarity of that seal!



Birfers wouldn't believe that Obama was born on US soil even if they were in the birthing room of Kapiolani Hospital watching Stanley Ann birth a new Messiah new biracial baby boy. They would still say that fraud was involved. How can we know with certainty that baby Barack Hussein Obama, Jr wasn't switched at birth with another black/Caucasian baby born on an airplane just over Hawaii to two non-US citizen parents on the same day of Obama's birth?

There are so many possibilities for fraud, and the birfers just know that a black man with a funny name must have secrets about who her really is.

From my days in Hannityland. Rick aka Firewatch is a moderator on Hannity's Forum.

Hannity moderators lumped all birther crap (except Lakin) into one thread. A few months ago the birther thread (100k or so posts) became history (IIRC forum speed problems) and a new one was started. I thought Rick's post correctly described the stupidity of birthers and saved it to my 'puter.

Keep celebrating democracy, Orly! Down with the freaking First Amendment!

Damn; the Salon article is one of the only articles I have read in years that doesn't call Orly a nutter who's batshit crazy. THAT article is one she wants to sue over?

Because she told him to be "fair" and he refused. To the hoosegow with him!

Orly should file a motion with whatever international court that she is a member in good standing, seeking to remove the case from the Federal district court. Her first pleading to the international court will be a proposed order requiring the United States Department of State to issue an apostille of the Hawaii DOH's verification. When Hillary cannot comply, Orly will adroitly file a motion for default judgment. Begley and Tepper won't anticipate Orly's brilliant legal maneuver in time to get their pro hac vice applications approved. Then the frogs will be marching.

Sorry, but Orly is really pissing me off tonight. Can a member of the herd temporarily join the "Grumpy People"?

And the request didn't use the following words:

Complicit
Connecticut
Demand
De Facto
Emergency
Fraud
Layers
Manifest Injustice
Microfiche
Sanction
Shocked
Travesty
Treason

I think you forgot:

Forgery
Criminal
Conspiracy

All words guaranteeing the court will take your request seriously!

Thank you for sharing that! That is hilarious!

Not to mention:

Constitutional Crisis
Discovery
Subpoena
Usurper

And. Too. Also. Plus.

"Latches" and "Microfish"

And the request didn't use the following words:

Complicit
Connecticut
Conspiracy
Constitutional Crisis
Criminal
Demand
De Facto
Discovery
Emergency
Forgery
Fraud
Latches
Layers
Manifest Injustice
Microfiche
Microfish
Sanction
Shocked
Subpoena
Travesty
Treason
Usurper

But is it embossed or debossed? Who was the poor sod who came up with that foolish argument...

Was it TerriK/Miss Tickly? She was seal obsessed.

I thought this one would bring her out of retirement for sure, but I can't find any recent activity

Around the tiney village of birfistan I read the following as to why the verification is suspicious/no good, whatever...

They didn't use "the form" to make their request.

The form number on the verification must be fake. It can not be found on their website.

It's Onaka's signature, NOT his stamp. (that's suspicious)

Why would he initial his own signature?

One of my favs... The seal runs past the horizontal line on the bottom of the form, thus invalidating it. (yes a serious comment)

All it verifies is that what they have on file is a copy of the forgery/fake which was released.

How did they get it so quickly? It took Bennett weeks.

But the BIGGIE!! It does not say TRUE and ACCURATE.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=101736



hmmmmm it seems in every case thus far Orly thought they were complete idiots.

But you're correct, Orly, they are not, which is why birthers lose every case, and will continue to do so, and why you're in for a huge surprise as to the weight which will be given the verification.

I'm a bit confused. Why didn't the verification Bennett requested have the sig and seal but the MDEC one does? I'm just curious - it just strikes IANAL!me a bit odd....

"sig and seal"
Not just your everyday seal. It looks like Dr Onaka pressed so hard, the thing almost came through the paper! The copy on scribd has a 3D-ish effect.

Yes. I looked at it carefully and must confess that I would never be able to do that one with a coin.

OK, perhaps Onaka should now put it on Hawaii's website to certify that he is the one who did it.

Of course, if that pic had more layers, or fewer layers, or even the exact same number of layers as the MDEC lawyers' pic some birfer is going to cry foul.

Orly is going to add it to her 7th Tower of Hanoi, Apuzzo is going to claim it is an additional argument for a special investigator to enter the vault, Kreep is going to use the obvious fraud in his election complaint against Mr Peed, and Berg ...

Wait a minute, where is Berg? Have we really lost Granny Birfer, surely he never believed in Vattel, he always was on THIS coach. At what stop did we leave him in the tanking station toilet?

Oh, Apuzzo thinks Berg Peed when we stopped somewhere in Tennessee. That narrows it down. Thanks a butterzillion, Mario.

That would be breaking the law.

They say that with this verification... they have the original on file. The data on the whitehouse.gov site matches the data on the original. Therefore, there is nothing on the website one that is not on the original, and vice versa, which means there's no indication of any late filing or that anything has ever been changed, altered nor amended.

That would be cool And thanks for explaining