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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:10 pm 
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Oy, my head hurts from reading that...brilliance. :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:55 am 
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david farrar (aka batazoid) wrote:
Plenary authority cannot create natural born citizens; it can only create naturalized citizens at birth. It does this via jus soli.

First,....

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Why has Farrar not found a highly decorated and emunarated position at a university law depart :?: ment


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:03 am 
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(cross posted from the Butterdezillion thread)

Now ORYR is pimping BZ's insane ramblings as factual "news"

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... rcher.html

BZ is somehow a credible authority as she dribbles her usual BS about why Hawai'i is "stonewalling" AZ whilst singularly failing to mention that the actual muppet who has stalled this is the arse Bennett who has failed to provide, as requested the specific law, statute or regulation under which he is making his request.

As is usual with Nelly, its's all Obama's fault, he's the root of all evil, the BC is late, amended and both and in any case Virginia Sunahara's BC is the real Obama one or something etc etc.

Just suprised she didn't add the whole Breitbart cack in as well

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:55 pm 
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Obama's secrets will come out in this election

And on and on and on. There are a lot of questions to be asked about Barack Obama. Why are his college records sealed? Why can’t we see a certified copy of his birth certificate? Why are his medical records sealed? I’ve been told that his Social Security registration was issued by Connecticut, which would be odd, but cannot check because that too is sealed. Obama worked as a lawyer, but we don’t know who he worked for because his client list is sealed. Why is it that Michelle Obama can no longer practice as an attorney? We know the fact but not the reason.


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http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/05/washington-times-obamas-secrets-will.html

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Lyndon LaRouche just told Alex Jones (3rd hour on podcast infowars.com) that America is in THE MOST SERIOUS CRISIS IN HISTORY!
THE GOOD NEWS: OBAMA IS GONG TO BE REMOVED VERY SOON. HE WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION.


Uhuh, one crazy guy told another crazy guy, "WE'RE DOOMED". Oh, and heads up gang, Obama won't make it to the convention.

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Lyndon LaRouche just told Alex Jones (3rd hour on podcast infowars.com) that America is in THE MOST SERIOUS CRISIS IN HISTORY!
THE GOOD NEWS: OBAMA IS GONG TO BE REMOVED VERY SOON. HE WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION.


I thought LaRouche was dead. Huh.

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Lyndon LaRouche just told Alex Jones (3rd hour on podcast infowars.com) that America is in THE MOST SERIOUS CRISIS IN HISTORY!
THE GOOD NEWS: OBAMA IS GONG TO BE REMOVED VERY SOON. HE WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION.


I thought LaRouche was dead. Huh.


Naw, just brain dead. They are waiting to see if anyone want his organs. :o

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:30 pm 
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More BS by Farrar... This time re Minor. While he finally admits Minor does not hold that 2 citizen parents are required for one to be nbc, and additionally that Minor in no way defines nbc, he then goes off the rails.

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And now, on to MINOR V HAPPERSETT:

Now I wish to explain Minor v Happersett in the proper light of the above discussion because it too has been misconstrued in recent court hearings, including my own. At that time I believed the judge in Minor case defined Article II. This, I now see, is wrong.

The judge simply relied upon the special ordinary case of "born in the country to parents who are citizens" which is a native or natural born citizen in order to show Mrs. Minor that her legal argument did not hold up because she argued that her political rights within the society (her right to vote) where secured by the 14th Amendment. In other words, she argued that because she was a citizen by legal privilege of Positive Law, her natural right to vote was provided for in the Constitution.
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"Special ordinary"? That's approaching military intelligence in its oxymoronityness.


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Obama and his mother had to become a single Indonesian family based on Indonesian law.
See here:
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3ae6b4ec8.html

His mother should have legally become an Indonesia citizen in 1966 according to Article 7, paragraph 2.

In the eyes of Indonesia - mother - and thus child also - were Indonesian and both named Soetoro.

Obama was only 3 when they married. He would have been only 4 one year later. At an age less than 5 his 'transfer' of citizenhip was likely controlled by the Hague Convention treaties. Thus, he would have likely become solely an Indonesian citizen at that point.

This would explain why Obama senior was needed in 1971 to legally extract him from Indonesia.

Use the above link and look at Article 17 paragraph c) as to why Obama senior would be needed to help IMMIGRATE Obama II out of Indonesia.


And what does Article 17 c say?

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The citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia is lost because of:

c.being recognized by an alien as his/her child if the person concerned has not reached the age of 18 and is not married yet and does not become stateless with the loss of the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia;


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Janine Turner to Bill O'Reilly: Obama Has Never Been Vetted



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If President Obama hasn't been vetted, then what exactly have the Republicans and Conservative activists been doing since 2004? Was that game of minesweeper that demanding?

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Haven't watched it yet, but I can only imagine...

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ICE Agent Explains Obama's Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants



The first comment gives one an idea of the content of the video...

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ARREST HIS ASS NOW!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:33 pm 
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Janine Turner to Bill O'Reilly: Obama Has Never Been Vetted

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So many ways to get to checkmate!!!


A comment by "Joe"

"Orly has also been asked to show her naturalization papers. I tried to encourage her to do so and very quickly so it hits them in the a$$. Romney was baiting Obama and Orly should do the same. She would get a ton of publicity from it. AND they would have absolutely no response to get out of it. It would be checkmate."

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:57 pm 
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realist wrote:
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Janine Turner to Bill O'Reilly: Obama Has Never Been Vetted



:roll:


Anytime I see someone - a birther or otherwise - say that Obama was "Never vetted" or that he's "Hiding his past that other Presidents haven't", I ask them what it is that they wanted to know about the President, that they don't know, or that they can't quickly find out by Googling, and that previous candidates for President have regularly supplied. Birthers generally say things like all the birth certificates being fake and the entire history being forged or made-up, but most others that I hear this from don't have any answers, at all. They just say he wasn't vetted, but can't answer the question of what it is they wanted to know (and that they feel might have somehow affected their opinion or vote) that wasn't answered.

A few say things like college grades and transcripts, but when asked about Mitt Romney's, John McCain's, Rick Santorum's, or other candidates, they tend to either clam up or say something like "We're not talking about them right now."

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The one thing I get out of that is that Turner should lose the bottle blond hair. She looked a hell of a lot better on Northern Exposure with short black hair than with that mess on top of her head.

*wanders off to watch Cliffhanger again and sigh*

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but but but who is the ICE person talking about the SSN?

I've still not had time to listen. :(

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but but but who is the ICE person talking about the SSN?

I've still not had time to listen. :(


John Sampson, of course.

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but but but who is the ICE person talking about the SSN?

I've still not had time to listen. :(


John Sampson, of course.


Shoulda known. :roll:

I suppose he's now graduated from his sworn testimony claiming that if he had the info and really was an agent (which we know he's not) that it would be worthy of investigation to now saying it's a stolen POS and Obama is a criminal and should be frogmarched?

Otherwise, it would just be the same old crap. :lol:

Of course I'm sure he'd rely on Orly's expertise, being a konstitushonal attorney and all, to point to where in the Constitution it sez a SSN is required to be prez. \:D/

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John Sampson, of course.


Y'know, there are plenty of immigrants that are real patriots.

Sampson, like Taitz, needs to be deported.

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Wha...huh?

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Maru wrote:
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Wha...huh?



Isn't that Bill The Cat's Line (the character not our poster)...?

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Haven't watched it yet, but I can only imagine...

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ICE Agent Explains Obama's Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants



The first comment gives one an idea of the content of the video...

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DEMOCRAP COMMUNIST said...[Reply]

ARREST HIS ASS NOW!


I made it through half of the crap but couldn't listen any longer. As far back as I've gone in researching our family history, we've had at least one person serving in every war that the U.S. has been involved in since the Civil War and it is so disgusting to hear these people who are trying to tear apart the President use their military service as their basis for doing so. This is not what our military is about, they should be ashamed of themselves but they don't have the ability to feel shame.

I hadn't heard Sampson speak before so I wasn't sure what he actually has said to Orly or if she was twisting his words, but after listening to him on here, he's as nuts as she is. He said the odds of President Obama's SS# being issued with a prefix that is most often associated with CT having been done due to a mistake are like the odds of hitting the lottery.
WTF? For him to pretend that the chance of clerical errors occurring are equivalent to the odds of him hitting the lottery is to treat your audience as if they are deaf, dumb and blind. The other thing that he said that jumped out at me as another obvious lie was when he said that in the Georgia case where he was supposed to testify, they were "told that the Judge was going to issue a default judgment against the President". Who gave him that info? Orly? Because she's such a wealth of accurate information, right? Of course, the radio host doesn't ask where he heard this info or who told him that but it's a given that it's a 100% accurate in the way he speaks about it. Then there is the inference that the Judge was bought out or threatened prior to the end of the hearing and that they were all dumbfounded by the news they lost. Nobody could see it coming? Hello? How many cases have been taken to trial by these buffoons and what is their record of wins and losses? Yet, you couldn't see this coming?

The other thing about the SS# that really pisses me off is when they try to associate President Obama's grandmother with fraud. Sampson brought that up despite the fact that the SS office said the number was issued between 1976 and 1977 and yet she didn't even work in the courthouse until 1986 and it wasn't in a position where she would have access to any of the material they accuse her of using fraudulently. It's one thing to attack a politician but to try to implicate his deceased relatives, his grandmother, grandfather, mother and father, as being guilty of criminal acts, it's so deplorable that I can't even find words for it. I realize there is absolutely nothing President Obama could ever produce that would make them believe he's a natural born citizen and is eligible for the position he holds as President of the United States.

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"It's one thing to attack a politician but to try to implicate his deceased relatives, his grandmother, grandfather, mother and father, as being guilty of criminal acts, it's so deplorable that I can't even find words for it. "

I only need one word for this type of sleezy sh*t........... Birther.

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The one thing I get out of that is that Turner should lose the bottle blond hair. She looked a hell of a lot better on Northern Exposure with short black hair than with that mess on top of her head.

*wanders off to watch Cliffhanger again and sigh*

At first glance, I thought that was Orly!!!


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Comment from crazy Helen Tansey at ORYR

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The William J. Olson Law Firm was attained by Article II Super PAC to provide counsel on our general election campaign strategy.

We are developing our field strategy and building our ground forces to get out and educate the voters b/w now and November. The ground forces need solid tools from extremely credible constitutional sources to overcome the oppositions disinformation campaign distorting the definitive definition of natural born Citizen - a definition, mind you, that 99% of every political party presidential/vice presidential nominee up until 2008 honored since adopting the US Constitution.

Therefore, Article II Super PAC is building a constitutional force to overcome these falsehoods voter to voter.

We are working to put boots on the ground and need folks to help us by volunteering. Please get involved. We will not succeed in our efforts to ensure the next President and Vice President of the United States meets all three "very simple" qualifications outlined under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 if we don't have folks out there educating their communities. ](*,)

Here's the link to sign up and our Volunteer Coordinator will follow up - http://www.art2superpac.com/volunteer.html

Let's capitalize on the momentum coming out of Walker's winlast night...we've got a ton of work to do b/w now and November.

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I suppose we need to counter the counter? :-k

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