Foggy wrote:
Eyebone taco has been installed. Typing with one eye, five fingers. No real pain. Success.
Normal surgery takes 20 min., mine took a little over 50 min.
Rumors are swirling that it took three tries to knock me out. Doc told me I'd be semi-conscious, "if you see a bright white light, that's the microscope so look straight at it and you'll make things easier for me."
OK, doc.
But Wifehorn claims they told her I wouldn't stop kicking. They gave me the relax-and-vegetate juice. It didn't work. They doubled the dose. That didn't work either. Finally they gave up and put me completely under.
Moral of the Story: Don't try knockout drops in my drink at the Myrtle Beach Meetup in October, 'cuz I'm too tough to get knocked out.

I'm glad your surgery went well for you Foghorn!
I'm really hard to put under as well. Last time I had surgery, the anesthesiologist said "count down from 10". It is a little creepy when you get down to those lower numbers and you are still awake! Many years ago I woke up during an in-office jaw procedure; the anesthesia wasn't general anesthesia but enough to put you out while still allowing you to breathing. Surprised out the doc. Had the stupid tape on my eyeballs. I didn't have pain when I woke up, but it was a weird feeling. Ugg.
TollandRCR wrote:
Foggy wrote:
But Wifehorn claims they told her I wouldn't stop kicking. They gave me the relax-and-vegetate juice. It didn't work. They doubled the dose. That didn't work either. Finally they gave up and put me completely under.
Are you, or were you once, a redhead? That is a fairly common story for redheads.
Congratulations on getting through it. If you had stayed awake, you might have enjoyed the conversation. When I had a detached retina that had to be reattached with a "buckle," I still remember the surgeon's "Oh, sh*t." I've never had the courage to ask him about that. Besides, he and the anesthesiologist spent much of the operation discussing which model of Lexus they were going to buy.
Well, that explains my experiences!
Thank doG my surgeon never said "Oh, shit".
TollandRCR wrote:
Whatever4 wrote:
What about box redheads**?
**Like bottle blondes.
If the phenomenon exists, it is supposed to be a genetic trait. Why having two copies of a recessive gene that yields redheads would affect susceptibility to anesthesia is beyond me.
The wiki link you provided mentioned that redheads are more sensitive to thermal pain. That makes sense. Northern Europeans, esp Scandinavians aren't programmed to cope with heat well. Our skin and eyes aren't programmed to deal with sunlight either. Those with pale blue or green eye colors are more sensitive to sunlight than those who have more standard blue or green eyes. I can't remember where I read that.
I have read in several sources (can't remember which, but reputable sources) and several docs/nurses have mentioned pain difference issues for redheads. IIRC, one nurse told me you don't have to be a full redhead for the effect. If you have the pale "redhead" skin, freckles, and redish hair, you can show the "redhead" pain differences. I haven't read up on that though. I'm not a true redhead, but I'm close, and was closer when I was younger.
Genetics is fascinating!
I have read several sources that say that redheads experience more pain in childbirth. I'm not sure how that would be measured. Perhaps they are comparing pain levels with epidurals. If redheads are less sensitive to anesthetics, they would need more of the spinal anethsia than non-redheads. Perhaps the pain in childbirth issue is really an anesthetic difference.