It really stuns me that Mario is still posting on that threat at Doc C's. I read it with fascination.

I mean he was posting for almost a week before his hearing, openly ridiculing people and bragging about his impending victory as people shredded his every argument. But now that he's actually lost, he's still going at it as if nothing happened, barely even acknowledging the fact that the court held his entire case to be meritless.

He posts paragraphs from court cases as "Evidence" that directly contradict his case. I realize he's pretty much a paid agitator at this point, but wow. Shades of CAAFlog.

This goes beyond trying to make $$. Something is seriously wrong with Mario.

^^^^THIS

I concur. Mario's one of the crazy guys who position themselves on a busy street corner and wave their arms and talk nonsense, desperately trying to engage others in "conversation", desperate for people to pay attention to his words.... which amount to pointless blithering. But no matter what anybody says to him, he denies reality, denies all except his own inner noise...so, yeah - he is crazy.
The comment about Apuzzo displaying signs of Aspergers seems right on. Why nbc and ballantine and the rest continue to play word games with him is beyond me.
The other comments by RC and others about maybe there is a RW billionaire sugar daddy tossing coin to birther nutcase attorneys might have a bit of truth to it (this is an election year and they are eager to do ANYTHING to defeat Obama). But Nick Purpura was, at one time, a very wealthy man - he was a long time partner in the now defunct investment firm BearStearns. He can probably afford to pursue this little hobby of his.

http://asperger-symptoms.net/

Apuzzo and Purpura are a pair of sociopaths who will pursue this crusade to the SCOTUS. No matter how many courts rule against them and other birthers making the exact same arguments, A & P will continue to push their own nonsense. Like deranged crazy people who pick up gum wrappers and rusty bottle caps and pieces of string they find in the street and cherish that trash as if it were priceless, Mario and Purpura will scrounge for any tidbits and lies and smears that they can add to their extensive collection, and they will offer up 480+ pages of utter nonsense to courts and any who will listen - they insist the "totality" of their absurd case outweighs the fact that ALL of it is without merit.

I read through that comment thread at Doc C's and wondered if Mario is mentally well. Even after the ruling, he was still declaring victory- that's a lot of cognitive dissonance for one person to carry around.

But nothing new. He still does not admit he lost the Kerchner case. Therefore, Obama must have been declared ineligible and no one but Mario got the news. But, if that's the case why is he continuing to file others?

It's a pickle.

Hell, I don't think he's ever admitted that he was wrong about the Pakistani travel ban.

Just yesterday he was trying to pretend that "citizen or citizens of the United States" is meant to distinguish "citizens" from "citizens of the United States," and when ridiculed for that, he challenged John Woodman to "[g]ive me an example of another noun in any statute by Congress when they state both the singular and the plural."

When it was pointed out to him that "person or persons" is a common construction in legislation, he turned tail and ran.

I disagree, at least as applied to Purpura.

I finally got around to watching the video of the administrative hearing a couple of days ago. Purpura is an arrogant asshole. He's not ill. He's just a miserable human being, nothing more.

Actually this is one of the things that gets me about many of the birther attorneys.

It's one thing to say that, for example, Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided and should be overturned. There are many organizations out there, on the left and the right, that believe there are precedents that were wrongly decided - whether they be Roe v. Wade, Citizens United, what have you - and are trying to change that through the legal or judicial process.

But the birthers don't do that - they drink the crazy juice. They simply handwave and say that WKA didn't say what it plainly says, while other birthers simply ignore that it ever happened and just say Minor (despite it being the case that doesn't say what they say it does) is the controlling precedent. They don't argue that WKA should be overturned and the Minor "holding" (which wasn't one) restored, they say that Minor still holds despite WKA.

While birthers would still be racists and xenophobes, they might manage to get a little more credibility if they admitted that WKA, for better or worse for their position, is the controlling standard, and they are looking to overturn it (whether they succeed or fail), rather than arguing, as Mario continually does in that thread at Doc C's, that WKA essentially didn't happen and is irrelevant. Arguing that someone should be required to have two citizen parents to be President while admitting that current law doesn't require that, may (to me) be a wrong position, but at least it's a position that one can debate. Arguing that current law says that Presidents require two citizen parents is simply demonstrably wrong, and the lengths to which birthers ignore or try to explain away court precedent and rulings, Presidential precedent (Arthur), and the like makes them look like fools.

Of course, taking such a position would mean admitting that the President is eligible under existing law, which none of them are at all willing to do.

The thing is, he didn't turn tail and run. When John Woodman showed a piece of legislation that stated...



Mario didn't turn tail and run. Instead, he is still in the thread, arguing that much like his baffling argument that "Citizen or citizens of the United States" means "A citizen" (of anywhere?) and "Citizens of the United States" (which are different from "citizens"), that when Congress wrote "...a person or persons other than the author..." Congress meant those as two completely different things, like "a person" (alone) or "persons other than the author". Of course, such a statement would be redundant, since the author is "a person", so therefore Congress could have just said "Anybody in the universe". It's clear Congress meant "individuals or groups other than the author", not "an individual (who could be anybody, including the author) or a group other than the author (which must be multiple people that doesn't include the author)"

Is English his first language?

The Asperger's Syndrome diagnosis is NOT right on -- not without some nasty co-morbidities which make the AS almost irrelevant, anyway. Further, the link is no good.

I'm on the spectrum with an AS dx. My son's on it with Autism. Don't try to hang Apuzzo on us. AS is not a mental illness. We're differently wired and often that's quite a good thing. Please reconsider throwing around the AS dx like that.

My wife is an LD diagnostician. By all signs, Apuzzo appears completely neural normal. Not normal. Neural normal.

From listening to him speak, I'd have to say no.

My apologies. I am not implying that I am familiar with AS, nor was I making a diagnosis for Apuzzo - I was referring to the comment written in the Obamaconspiracy article thread which described a relative's AS behavior and how Mario displays very similar behavior.

No, I don't think so -- read on. He was still in the thread, but not for long.

First of all, it wasn't John Woodman who pointed that out. Mario erroneously jumped to that conclusion and made himself look particularly stupid.

But, several comments later, Arthur B. challenged him on his ridiculous claim of what "a person or persons other than the author" meant, and he's barely posted on that thread since then. He certainly hasn't responded on that subject.

Asperger's is mostly typified by a deficit in social functioning (or at least this is what neurotypical people are more likely to notice). It is often accompanied by excellent ability to reason within formal systems, which the Putz entirely lacks. Whatever is wrong with the Putz, it is not Asperger's.

Obviously not Asperger's.

Mario's condition is most likely Furburger's Syndrome, characterized by an extreme fixation on plentiful pubic hair. So he's a Furby, not an Aspie. According to Wikipedia...


So just give the fellow some time, OK? Sooner or later his command of the English language and his ability to reason are bound to improve.

I doubt he has Asperger's. We Aspies tend to be very logical, not too emotional, not enthusiastic about public speaking or interacting face to face with strangers, reluctant to engage in confrontation, and smarter than average, none of which seems to apply to Mario. We also have a strong sense of fairness and truthiness and don't knowingly twist facts. We also tend to be bad liars and not that creative; Mario's arguments are very deceitful and creative.

Not all indifferent jerks are Aspies. Some have other things wrong with them. And rude Aspies rarely intend to be rude. We usually feel quite bad and confused when we upset someone. Mario is an asshole, not an Aspie.

No! He speaks Noo Joizee
Regards .............Dick

It's real simple, Mario has no organic or neurological wiring issues, he is simply an ignorant asshole and a racist piece of shit.

Thanks again Orlylicious.

We the Purple speaks...

Why Mario Apuzzo would be proud of his presentation is beyond me. I thought nbc got it right with the "ill prepared" comment. Apuzzo was a rambling idiot who couldn't tie together two loose ends even though he spoke about approximately two dozen topics.

Apuzzo being so arrogant he can't see what a disaster his performance was is one thing. Surely one or more of the birthers at ORYR or Freeperville is asking themselves wtf was Mario thinking and why is this video still embedded here so Obots can come laugh at us.

The following may be one of the kindest truthful remarks made about Apuzzo's presentation.