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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:14 am 
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Why did Romney do this? What grownup thought this was a politically advantageous move?


My guess is that they were hoping for some sort of insane birfoonery to break out on the 'left'.

Instead, most people cast a cursory glance over it and said 'we already knew where he was born, coz we're normal'


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Why did Romney do this? What grownup thought this was a politically advantageous move?


My guess is that they were hoping for some sort of insane birfoonery to break out on the 'left'.

Instead, most people cast a cursory glance over it and said 'we already knew where he was born, coz we're normal'


It will be interesting to see how many of the constitutional purists pursue the citizenship status of George Romney since he was born in Mexico. For those who insist the parents both must be citizens at the time of birth, it will present a problem. Did his ex-patriot ancestors meet the residency requirements to retain their US citizenship? Just askin'. :mrgreen: For those Constitutional Purists.

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Why did Romney do this? What grownup thought this was a politically advantageous move?

IMO, he and his handlers decided to take advantage of a Trump-provided opening. They'd already made the political calculation that they were better off to take the flak for Romney not disassociating himself fully from the Donald's birthing than to actually do it and risk pissing off part of the base, not to mention Trump himself. So the candidate issues a mealy-mouthed statement, while his spokesperson oh so patronizingly acknowledges that Romney "believes" President Obama was born in Hawaii. (And wasn't that "white" of him?)

Oh, and coincidentally, he releases his own BC the same day? That was a dog whistle if I ever heard one. He's counting on this being a 2 or 3 day news cycle story. He's counting on the pushback from Republicans that's already happening, blaming the Dems for pushing the story and comparing Trump to Bill Maher or even Hilary Rosen. Romney and his supporters believe swing voters and independents will forget this over the summer and it'll be considered "old news" in the fall. I think the campaign sees the current kerfuffle as a small price to pay to nail down an enthusiastic racist vote, which I believe they know is crucial to a Romney win.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:55 am 
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The Guardian UK has a nice little satirical piece beginning:

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Last night – under the cover of darkness – the Mitt Romney campaign published what it claims to be a birth certificate for "Willard Mitt bin Romney".


:lol:

More concerns (channelling Obama birthers criticisms of his COLB)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ma ... ve#block-3#block-3


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Press Release: GOP leading senatorial candidate calls on Romney and Obama sign releases and urge respective governmental agencies to release their original identification papers

Yesterday Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ, leading GOP candidate for the US Senate and a leader in the citizens movement to criminaly prosecute ObamaForgeryGate, was interviewed by a number of national papers and magazines. Alex Seitz, Political editor of Salon.com, asked if she would subject Romney to the same scrutiny as Obama. Her answer is: absolutely. We have credibility when we act with impartiality.

Multiple experts have found that Obama’s released alleged copy of his original birh certificate is a computer generated forgery. His selective service certificate is found to be a forgery as well. He is using a CT Social Security number [XXX-XX-XXXX] that was never assigned to him according to E-verify and SSNVS and his legal last name according to his mothers passport and his school registration in Indonesia is Soebarkah or Soetoro. There is no record of him ever legally changing his name to Obama. The man is a complete fraud, a work of fiction, who needs to be severely prosecuted.

On the other hand she never got any evidence of any fraud or forgery in Romney’s birth certificate, selective service certificate, Social Security number or legality of his use of his last name. However to show an unbiased and impartial approach to both candidates, she calls on both Romney and Obama to sign a consent, authorising respective state Health Departments, Selective service, SSA, and passport agency to allow expert examination for forgery of their original birth certificates on file, microfilm of thereof, original applications for the Selective Service, original passport application, and a redacted original Social Security application.

This nation was reduced to a level of a laughable third world banana republic, when the Registrar of the State of Hawaii and the Director of the state of Hawaii refused to provide Dr. Taitz access to the original birth certificate for Obama, when she provided them a federal subpoena and when the detectives from the state of AZ requested the same. Similarly SSA and Selective service engaged in the same stonewalling.

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=84503 :twisted:

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I am sure Oily will show us the results of her illegally accessing e-verify to run Romney's SSN correct? She will also show us the results of her Intellius search for Romney's name and SSN correct? I am sure she will show us the results of her illegally changing the address on Romney's Selective Service records to get a copy of his records right? Waiting Oily, tick tock, tick tock.

Oh wait, the white guy gets to voluntarily give permission for obtaining all this information. :evil:

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On the other hand she never got any evidence of any fraud or forgery in Romney’s birth certificate, selective service certificate, Social Security number or legality of his use of his last name.

I enjoy Orly when she's outrageous entertainment. I really hate the bitch when she's nothing but a petty, racist liar.

She doesn't have Romney's SSN, and probably never will.

I will say one thing: Mitt Romney's determination to eliminate Social Security should be a clue. He's trying to destroy evidence!

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She doesn't have Romney's SSN, and probably never will.

Awww, c'mon -- don't you think those intrepid detectives she employs like Susan Daniels, Neil Sankey, and Al Hendershott couldn't come up with several of them for her?

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She doesn't have Romney's SSN, and probably never will.

Awww, c'mon -- don't you think those intrepid detectives she employs like Susan Daniels, Neil Sankey, and Al Hendershott couldn't come up with several of them for her?

Maybe a Federal Tax ID.

People can be corporations, too. Or vice versa. Or something.

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bob wrote:
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However to show an unbiased and impartial approach to both candidates, she calls on both Romney and Obama to sign a consent, authorising respective state Health Departments, Selective service, SSA, and passport agency to allow expert examination for forgery of their original birth certificates on file, microfilm of thereof, original applications for the Selective Service, original passport application, and a redacted original Social Security application.

OK, so am I right in thinking they couldn't do this? What authority does an individual have to "authorize" other people to come in and muck around in an agency's records? An individual may be able to request information on themselves (through FOIA?) that others might not be able to get - for example the SS-5 form maybe? - and then turn that over to reporters or others, but "allow expert examination" of the originals on file with the agency?? I think not.


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However to show an unbiased and impartial approach to both candidates, she calls on both Romney and Obama to sign a consent, authorising respective state Health Departments, Selective service, SSA, and passport agency to allow expert examination for forgery of their original birth certificates on file, microfilm of thereof, original applications for the Selective Service, original passport application, and a redacted original Social Security application.


I am lost: how can something be original and a forgery at the same time?


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However to show an unbiased and impartial approach to both candidates, she calls on both Romney and Obama to sign a consent, authorising respective state Health Departments, Selective service, SSA, and passport agency to allow expert examination for forgery of their original birth certificates on file, microfilm of thereof, original applications for the Selective Service, original passport application, and a redacted original Social Security application.


I am lost: how can something be original and a forgery at the same time?


Welcome to the land of the vocal OrlyIsAnAirport....nice...

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"We have credibility when we act with impartiality."


No.

You don't.


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Hold on, isn't that a... a... CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH??? I thought you couldn't get to do little league with one of those!

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twinx wrote:
The Guardian UK has a nice little satirical piece beginning:

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Last night – under the cover of darkness – the Mitt Romney campaign published what it claims to be a birth certificate for "Willard Mitt bin Romney".


:lol:

More concerns (channelling Obama birthers criticisms of his COLB)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ma ... ve#block-3#block-3


Brilliant article! They forgot to note, however, the
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running down both sides of the certificate. Imagine if Obama released a BC that said "VOID" on it - there would be screams that it's proof he has no valid certificate. Why do I think no one will really care that Romney's certificate is boldly marked VOID, though?

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Orly has a link up to an AtlanticWire article. It's hilarious, especially "computer expert Nick Walsh"
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I am speaking simply here as a computer geek. That certificate bothers me a lot. Here's why.

The dude was born in 1947. We didn't even have computers capable printing this stuff until about the mid 80's.
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It's got Berg, Lena, Nick, Larry Johnson, and some guy named Mickey.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... ate/52968/

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Here's Orly's contribution to the article:

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"Even though I do not have any evidence to show that there's a forgery in the copy provided by Romney," she told us over the phone, "just to be impartial and even-handed I am asking that both candidates release the original documents." Taitz said that when Obama released the short version of his birth certificate in 2008 (she's convinced that the 2011 "long form" is also a computer forgery), a date stamp bled through the back saying 2007, when Obama said he acquired the document in 2008. With Romney's certificate, she says, "the date is here, is January of this year. It's not a year ago. That looks more reasonable."

None of the morons quoted in the article seems to care that the birth certificate says "void" on it and that the person for whom it was issued is named Williard.


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Press Release: GOP leading senatorial candidate calls on Romney and Obama sign releases and urge respective governmental agencies to release their original identification papers

Yesterday Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ, leading GOP candidate for the US Senate and a leader in the citizens movement to criminaly prosecute ObamaForgeryGate, was interviewed by a number of national papers and magazines. Alex Seitz, Political editor of Salon.com, asked if she would subject Romney to the same scrutiny as Obama. Her answer is: absolutely. We have credibility when we act with impartiality.

Multiple experts have found that Obama’s released alleged copy of his original birh certificate is a computer generated forgery. His selective service certificate is found to be a forgery as well. He is using a CT Social Security number [XXX-XX-XXXX] that was never assigned to him according to E-verify and SSNVS and his legal last name according to his mothers passport and his school registration in Indonesia is Soebarkah or Soetoro. There is no record of him ever legally changing his name to Obama. The man is a complete fraud, a work of fiction, who needs to be severely prosecuted.

On the other hand she never got any evidence of any fraud or forgery in Romney’s birth certificate, selective service certificate, Social Security number or legality of his use of his last name. However to show an unbiased and impartial approach to both candidates, she calls on both Romney and Obama to sign a consent, authorising respective state Health Departments, Selective service, SSA, and passport agency to allow expert examination for forgery of their original birth certificates on file, microfilm of thereof, original applications for the Selective Service, original passport application, and a redacted original Social Security application.

This nation was reduced to a level of a laughable third world banana republic, when the Registrar of the State of Hawaii and the Director of the state of Hawaii refused to provide Dr. Taitz access to the original birth certificate for Obama, when she provided them a federal subpoena and when the detectives from the state of AZ requested the same. Similarly SSA and Selective service engaged in the same stonewalling.

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=84503 :twisted:

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And Orly still hasn't released any of her personal info???!!!

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Press Release: GOP leading senatorial candidate calls on Romney and Obama sign releases and urge respective governmental agencies to release their original identification papers

Yesterday Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ, leading GOP candidate for the US Senate and a leader in the citizens movement to criminaly prosecute ObamaForgeryGate, was interviewed by a number of national papers and magazines. Alex Seitz, Political editor of Salon.com, asked if she would subject Romney to the same scrutiny as Obama. Her answer is: absolutely. We have credibility when we act with impartiality.

Multiple experts have found that Obama’s released alleged copy of his original birh certificate is a computer generated forgery. His selective service certificate is found to be a forgery as well. He is using a CT Social Security number [XXX-XX-XXXX] that was never assigned to him according to E-verify and SSNVS and his legal last name according to his mothers passport and his school registration in Indonesia is Soebarkah or Soetoro. There is no record of him ever legally changing his name to Obama. The man is a complete fraud, a work of fiction, who needs to be severely prosecuted.

On the other hand she never got any evidence of any fraud or forgery in Romney’s birth certificate, selective service certificate, Social Security number or legality of his use of his last name. However to show an unbiased and impartial approach to both candidates, she calls on both Romney and Obama to sign a consent, authorising respective state Health Departments, Selective service, SSA, and passport agency to allow expert examination for forgery of their original birth certificates on file, microfilm of thereof, original applications for the Selective Service, original passport application, and a redacted original Social Security application.

This nation was reduced to a level of a laughable third world banana republic, when the Registrar of the State of Hawaii and the Director of the state of Hawaii refused to provide Dr. Taitz access to the original birth certificate for Obama, when she provided them a federal subpoena and when the detectives from the state of AZ requested the same. Similarly SSA and Selective service engaged in the same stonewalling.

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=84503 :twisted:

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And Orly still hasn't released any of her personal info???!!!


Orly don't need to release no stinkin' papers! She's the "GOP Leading Senatorial Candidate" according to this press release that came from...let me see if I can find it...hmm...checking...still checking...got it! This press release came directly from the website of Salon, the CA GOP, and several other legitimate media sites and Orly's very own website, written by her campaign manager, by Orly! :^o

In all seriousness, somebody must have helped her with this "press release" because there's no way she would ever say, "we have credibility, when we act with impartiality". =)) Not only wouldn't she understand that, it goes against everything she's ever said or done.

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Orly has a link up to an AtlanticWire article. It's hilarious, especially "computer expert Nick Walsh"
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I am speaking simply here as a computer geek. That certificate bothers me a lot. Here's why.

The dude was born in 1947. We didn't even have computers capable printing this stuff until about the mid 80's.
](*,)

It's got Berg, Lena, Nick, Larry Johnson, and some guy named Mickey.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... ate/52968/

#-o Date Issued: January 18, 2012 ](*,)


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Interesting fun facts:

The two major party candidates in the 2008 election were not born in the continental United States.

The fathers of the two presumed major party candidates in the 2012 election were not born in the United States.

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Interesting fun facts:

The two major party candidates in the 2008 election were not born in the continental United States.

The fathers of the two presumed major party candidates in the 2012 election were not born in the United States.

WWVD :?:

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WWVD :?:

What would deVattel do?


Birfers would say Vattel would = :explode:

LMK says Vattel would = :bored:

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