I like how birthers are the crotch (cod piece?)

Chuck is up to his old tricks.

Deo Vindice

Oh, doG, does anyone still take this clown seriously?

Oh, doG, does anyone still take this clown seriously?

Reward for Obama documents grows to $20,000
The Daily Caller – Wed, May 23, 2012

There’s a growing interest in President Barack Obama’s obscured youth, his college education and his Chicago career — and now the financial incentive for people to provide interesting documentation has doubled to $20,000. The reward has doubled since May’s initial reward of $10,000 was announced by a project launched by a former high-tech executive.

So far, “we’ve had a few people send in fakes, which were pretty hilarious,” said Brooks Bayne, the public face of the activist team, whose website is at thetrenches.us. Bayne is based in L.A., but he’s from Tennessee, and has had a long history of local activism against big government. He was a top manager at a California tech-firm that was bought by Amazon, and is now working to document the gaps in Obamas education and early career.

“100 percent of my time [is devoted] to fighting against the professional left,” he said, adding that he has never been a member of the Republican Party. The group’s initial goal to is to get copies of Obama’s college-related documents, such as application papers and lists of the courses he took.

Birtherism -- the belief that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, not in the United States -- pretty much died last year when the White House released a copy of the president's long-form birth certificate showing he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. After that, the number of Americans who doubted Obama's place of birth dropped dramatically.

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The talk has gone beyond Obama, with some buzz on the Internet suggesting Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a leading Republican vice presidential contender, is not a natural-born American citizen.

"My conclusion would be that if you are a citizen as a consequence of your birth, that's a natural-born citizen," says Theodore Olson, the former Bush solicitor general who defended John McCain in a 2008 lawsuit alleging McCain was ineligible to be president. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 while his father served in the U.S. Navy there. Even though the area was under American jurisdiction and both McCain's parents were U.S. citizens, some Democrats alleged McCain was ineligible to be president. McCain won the case, if not the presidency.

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But what about Rubio? What about a child born in the United States to noncitizen parents? "I am not aware of anyone who has contended that someone could be born in the United States and be a citizen by virtue of the 14th Amendment and nevertheless still not be a natural-born American citizen," says Washington lawyer Matthew McGill, who worked with Olson on the McCain case and did extensive research into the law and history of citizenship. "If he is born in the United States, his parentage is not of consequence."

Colony14Author

Mr. York would flunk law school. Any first year student knows that a general rule cannot overrule a specific rule. A reference to "citizen" in a law does not mean it also applies to "natural born citizen." If they meant the same thing there would not be two different terms.

For the record, a number of us "birthers" have always claimed that Obama is ineligible because he did not have two U.S. citizen parents, an argument supported by the Supreme Court in Happersett v. Minor. Additionally, references to the 14th Amendment are irrelevant, as that amendment pertains to citizenship and not once mention the term natural born citizen. And, contrary to the claims of some Obots, U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark does not contradict Happersett or support Obama.

Lastly, the Obama supporters (Mr. York included, apparently) must explain the existence of the "grandfather clause" in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution. That grandfather clause serves no purpose if the citizenship of the candidate's parents is not relevant. George Washington, for example, was born in Virginia. Yet he could not be president without the "grandfather clause" in the Constitution - because he was not a natural born citizen. (He was born on U.S. soil but his parents were obviously not U.S. citizens at the time of his birth.)

Colony14Author

Mr. York would flunk law school. Any first year student knows that a general rule cannot overrule a specific rule. A reference to "citizen" in a law does not mean it also applies to "natural born citizen." If they meant the same thing there would not be two different terms.

I don't know whether this guy is a moron because both of his parents were morons, one of his parents was a moron, or that he acquired his moronhood later in life. Whatever. A natural born moron is no smarter or stupider than a native born moron or an alien moron. He's still a moron.

Kerchner is there spreading his nonsense as well.

"The situation in the US is also coming to a head. A very senior US agency source asked that the following information be spread far and wide:"President Obama’s social security number xxx-xx-xxxx [redacted] belonged to a John Paul Ludwig born in 1890. Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked in a probate office in Hawaii where she had access to social security numbers of deceased individuals. Because Ludwig never received Social Security Benefits, there were no benefits to stop, therefore no questions were ever raised.

"Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a US citizen, because he was born in Kenya and became a citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption, she scoured the probate records until she found someone who died who was not getting benefits and selected Mr. Ludwig’s for Obama, the agency official explained."

I don't know whether this guy is a moron because both of his parents were morons, one of his parents was a moron, or that he acquired his moronhood later in life. Whatever. A natural born moron is no smarter or stupider than a native born moron or an alien moron. He's still a moron.

10:57 AM EDT, Thursday May 31, 2012
Hoekstra Now Says Birther Questions ‘Absolutely Ludicrous Discussion’

Former Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) is facing a tough push-back in his Senate race to challenge Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow, after he called for the creation of a national office to examine presidential candidates’ birth certificates.

Hoekstra, his primary opponent Clark Durant and Stabenow appeared at a candidate forum Wednesday hosted by the Detroit Regional Chamber’s political action committee, during which they took questions separately.

The Grand Rapids Press reports:

Hoekstra, fresh of a CNN interview on the same topic, grew loud as he tried to quiet controversy resulting from his idea to create a federal office that would verify the qualifications of political candidates. “This is an absolutely ludicrous discussion to be having four years after a presidential (election),” Hoekstra said at a near shout. “It is an absolute waste of time and energy.”

Alan Korwin, Scottsdale Gun-Law Author, Says "Birther" Is the "New 'N' Word"


"'Birther,' used by the media with impunity, is a derogatory slur, the equivalent of the 'N' word used for another group to cast them as sub-human," Korwin writes. "You apply this new 'N' word to a huge group of politically-active Americans who've raised legitimate questions on a legitimate topic."