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 Post subject: Florida Ballot Challenge
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:54 pm 
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Kinda off topic, but is this hokay for an attorney to do? I mean that paragraph toward the end where he says "If you fail to do this..."


I am so sick of the now-overused phrase "WE THE PEOPLE." :x It is arrogant beyond belief to use that phrase, because it assumes all of "the people" agree, which is ludicrous. [-X Usage of that phrase should be banned, except for the preamble to the Constitution, where it belongs, as the Constitution broadly applies to all citizens.


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mimi wrote:
Kinda off topic, but is this hokay for an attorney to do? I mean that paragraph toward the end where he says "If you fail to do this..."


I am so sick of the now-overused phrase "WE THE PEOPLE." :x It is arrogant beyond belief to use that phrase, because it assumes all of "the people" agree, which is ludicrous. [-X Usage of that phrase should be banned, except for the preamble to the Constitution, where it belongs, as the Constitution broadly applies to all citizens.


Might infringe on freedom of speech unless the government would be willing to copyright it?

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I am so sick of the now-overused phrase "WE THE PEOPLE." :x It is arrogant beyond belief to use that phrase, because it assumes all of "the people" agree, which is ludicrous. [-X Usage of that phrase should be banned, except for the preamble to the Constitution, where it belongs, as the Constitution broadly applies to all citizens.

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What follows are a series of grants of power from the people to their newly constituted government. Unless and until they the people abolish or repeal the Constitution, they have voluntarily relinquished the natural right to act as we the people except through, and in manners consistent with, their social compact.

In effect, the Constitution extinguishes any natural right of we the people to revert to mob rule or "private justice".

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 Post subject: Florida Ballot Challenge
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mimi wrote:
Kinda off topic, but is this hokay for an attorney to do? I mean that paragraph toward the end where he says "If you fail to do this..."


http://obamaballotchallenge.com/if-for- ... ligibility




Serious fundraising blitz by Larry K-K-Kman coming right up !!!
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He's going to take the reins of a couple wagons carrying the racist piece-of-eights down to Florida !!

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 Post subject: Florida Ballot Challenge
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It seems that Kreep and Klayman are vying to see who gets the highest failing grade in BirtherLaw I.

Klayman may be squawking and hawking a tad louder at the moment while Kreep's conserving his energy and birferbucks for a kram-and-kick at the end. (Yeah, I know, I know...there's no such thing as "the end".)

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borealis wrote:
Might infringe on freedom of speech


Well, there is that.


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Sam Sewell has a post up in which he says that they need $9,000 ASAP for Klayman to "get this case before a judge." Their original fundraising goal was $12,500, which means they have collected less than 1/3 of what they set out to collect. ?(


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Sam Sewell has a post up in which he says that they need $9,000 ASAP for Klayman to "get this case before a judge." Their original fundraising goal was $12,500, which means they have collected less than 1/3 of what they set out to collect. ?(


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It seems that the drip hasn't been all that steady lately.

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$9K to get a case before a judge? Well, we know it ain't Clarence Thomas ... [-X ;)

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AnitaMaria wrote:
Sam Sewell has a post up in which he says that they need $9,000 ASAP for Klayman to "get this case before a judge." Their original fundraising goal was $12,500, which means they have collected less than 1/3 of what they set out to collect. ?(


Or they could have collected nothing and Klayman is on sale.

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Wasn't the original goal, way back when, $25,000 minimum or Klayman would refuse to take the case? Now it's just $12,500 and he's been working on it anyway?

The Birfer Bucks must be drying up.

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 Post subject: Florida Ballot Challenge
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Bilking the retirees with 100% pure nonsense and utter bullshit.
Mensa, my ass.
Sewell and Klayman and the rest of these creeps are no different and no better then telephone scammers who target the elderly. These "fundraisings" are proof positive that Birtherism is nothing but a scam, from start to finish and from top to bottom, aimed at getting money out of gullible halfwits, like these folks.

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Wasn't the original goal, way back when, $25,000 minimum or Klayman would refuse to take the case? Now it's just $12,500 and he's been working on it anyway?

The Birfer Bucks must be drying up.


IIRC, the 25k was for FL and CA, 12,500 each.

He's done nothing in CA.

In the Voeltz case in FL he's not entered an appearance.

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What are the odds that Klayman gave a money back guarantee? ;;)

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What are the odds that Klayman gave a money back guarantee? ;;)

It's an ethical violation to guarantee the outcome of a case.* And we all know that the Birfer Bar studiously adheres to all ethical strictures to the letter and in spirit Always!

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*One of the outcomes, of course, is that Klayman might take the money and run. :D ](*,)

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 Post subject: Florida Ballot Challenge
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Docket update.
http://cvweb.clerk.leon.fl.us/process.asp?template=dockets&addQuery=real_case.case_id=%2758101756%27
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4/25/2012 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE OF STEPHEN F. ROSENTHAL, ESQ.,AS ATTORNEY FOR BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
4/27/2012 LETTER TO LARRY KLAYMAN, ESQ FROM JUDGE LEWIS OFFICE
5/15/2012 PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATE AND DEFENDANT OBAMAS MOTIONS TO DISMISS AND DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATES ALTERNATIVE MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT

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Update.
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5/14/2012 FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSIONs ANSWER TO AMENDED COMPLAINT JAMES PETERS (Attorney) on behalf of FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSION (DEFENDANT)

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Mensaman Collette's case has a hearing scheduled:

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http://www.pascoclerk.com/public-courts-results-nc-case-info.asp?mdqs=c&tbqs=543817

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Doc C had sent me this and I just added the hearing to the Calendar

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 Post subject: Florida Ballot Challenge
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Docket update, VOELTZ vs OBAMA
http://cvweb.clerk.leon.fl.us/process.a ... 8101756%27
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5/14/2012 PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATE AND DEFENDANT OBAMAS MOTIONS TO DISMISS AND DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATES ALTERNATIVE MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT
5/14/2012 FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSIONs ANSWER TO AMENDED COMPLAINT JAMES PETERS (Attorney) on behalf of FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSION (DEFENDANT)
5/23/2012 SECRETARY OF STATES MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER

Motion for Protective Order? :shock:

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Docket update, VOELTZ vs OBAMA
http://cvweb.clerk.leon.fl.us/process.a ... 8101756%27
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5/14/2012 PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATE AND DEFENDANT OBAMAS MOTIONS TO DISMISS AND DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATES ALTERNATIVE MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT
5/14/2012 FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSIONs ANSWER TO AMENDED COMPLAINT JAMES PETERS (Attorney) on behalf of FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSION (DEFENDANT)
5/23/2012 SECRETARY OF STATES MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER

Motion for Protective Order? :shock:


The asshats are probably trying to get discovery, issue subpoenae, etc. Just a guess.

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Oooh. I bet there's a good story behind that, Neon.

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neonzx wrote:
Docket update, VOELTZ vs OBAMA
http://cvweb.clerk.leon.fl.us/process.a ... 8101756%27
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5/14/2012 PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATE AND DEFENDANT OBAMAS MOTIONS TO DISMISS AND DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATES ALTERNATIVE MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT
5/14/2012 FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSIONs ANSWER TO AMENDED COMPLAINT JAMES PETERS (Attorney) on behalf of FLORIDA ELECTIONS CANVASSING COMMISSION (DEFENDANT)
5/23/2012 SECRETARY OF STATES MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER

Motion for Protective Order? :shock:


I'm guessing that after what happened in Arizona, the SOS in Florida has been getting some rather threatening emails. Amazing how much the birthers complain about the President threatening, and it's them who are doing all the threatening. I hope they catch these people and charge them the maximum they can under the law. It's just sick. ](*,)

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Florida Rules of Civil Procedure
RULE 1.280 GENERAL PROVISIONS GOVERNING DISCOVERY

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(c) Protective Orders. Upon motion by a party or by the person from whom discovery is sought, and for good cause shown, the court in which the action is pending may make any order to protect a party or person from annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, or undue burden or expense that justice requires, including one or more of the following: (1) that the discovery not be had; (2) that the discovery may be had only on specified terms and conditions, including a designation of the time or place; (3) that the discovery may be had only by a method of discovery other than that selected by the party seeking discovery; (4) that certain matters not be inquired into, or that the scope of the discovery be limited to certain matters; (5) that discovery be conducted with no one present except persons designated by the court; (6) that a deposition after being sealed be opened only by order of the court; (7) that a trade secret or other confidential research, development, or commercial information not be disclosed or be disclosed only in a designated way; and (8) that the parties simultaneously file specified documents or information enclosed in sealed envelopes to be opened as directed by the court. If the motion for a protective order is denied in whole or in part, the court may, on such terms and conditions as are just, order that any party or person provide or permit discovery. The provisions of rule 1.380(a)(4) apply to the award of expenses incurred in relation to the motion.

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