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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:21 am 
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http://news.yahoo.com/federal-inmate-ke ... itics.html

Other threads are discussing the likelihood of ineligible candidates getting on the ballots. Is there a difference between ineligible and unqualified? We see some people with criminal backgrounds and hatefilled viewpoints make it on the ballot. Isn't that a bigger concern?

One of the first things I heard this morning was a story about Keith Judd, a federal prisoner in Texas being on the West Virginia ballot as candidate for President running as a Democrat against Obama. I had no idea that he had received such a large share of the votes. I don't know what to make of it. :-? :( :-? ](*,) :-k :-?

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/us-preside ... 48696.html

40% of the vote. This inmate got 40% of the vote.

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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:31 am 
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esseff beat me to it, but look at how nasty this article is:

Against Obama, even a jailbird gets some votes

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Just how unpopular is President Barack Obama in some parts of the country? Enough that a man in prison in Texas got 4 out of 10 votes in West Virginia's Democratic presidential primary.

The inmate, Keith Judd, is serving time at the Federal Correctional Institution in Texarkana, Texas, for making threats at the University of New Mexico in 1999. Obama received 59 percent of the vote to Judd's 41 percent.

For some West Virginia Democrats, simply running against Obama is enough to get Judd votes.

"I voted against Obama," said Ronnie Brown, a 43-year-old electrician from Cross Lanes who called himself a conservative Democrat. "I don't like him. He didn't carry the state before and I'm not going to let him carry it again."


Remainder: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/08/447615 ... lbird.html

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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:36 am 
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Its West Virginia.....the heart of impoverished Appalachia, owned by big coal and motivated by racism.
A ray of Hope though - that inmate in Texas got more votes in the WV Dem. primary then Romney did in the Rep. primary, and Obama got more votes then both of them.

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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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I'm pasting jtmunkus's story here. I hope jt doesn't mind. I found it very interesting



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Keith Judd was arrested twice in my presence at the University of New Mexico in 1996 - both times armed - when he was running around free and unhinged.

First time, I was riding my bike to the school paper (where I wrote), and I saw him as he was tackled by university cops, walking through campus with no shirt on and carrying a rifle. I wrote it up (I was on the scene) and published an article in the Daily Lobo under a "staff reports" byline.

Two weeks or so later, while waiting in the rain for Al Gore to appear at the ASUNM to speak at a re-election event, I saw Judd about twenty feet from the stage, kind of off in a corner, and looking just as sketchy as the guy I'd seen parading through campus with his rifle - this time with a long coat on. Of course, I alerted the first Secret Service agent I saw, and Judd was immediately shuffled away by 6-8 very eager agents.

Didn't hear another thing about the incident until about three years later, when I read in the Albuquerque Journal that Judd had been imprisoned for 210 months in Texas on "firearms charges." The article mentioned that he'd been arrested twice at UNM, once at a Gore rally, carrying a gun.

That was my Forrest Gump moment. Who knows, if I hadn't been there, what would have happened (and I've had to consider the very real and macabre possibility that if I hadn't taken action that day, there may not have been an election debacle in 2000).



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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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The people in Appalachia don't like outsiders. It's kinda like Down East. Even if you've lived there all your life, if you arrived from somewhere other than your mama's yahoo, you are an outsider.

Folks in the town I used to live in would superstitiously swipe their index finger across the coal grime whenever anyone dissed coal companies or mining in front of them and say "Lucky lucky coal dust" as if just complaining would take all their jobs away. The only doctors who would work in the dogforesaken rural clinics were foreigners - think Northern Exposure but with Middle Eastern docs - and folks would have to be just about dead before they'd go see them.

Here's the part that made me shake my head and say huh. They hated that the Federal government made the coal companies mitigate the environmental damage from strip mining by, for one example, planting trees on stripped-bare hillsides. After a couple of years' growth, the hillside would be stable enough again not to develop the galloping mudslides in the spring runoff that would often take out half a town. But they hated that. "Don't tell us what to do!" I never understood that mindset.

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Yes, Kate, it appears to be some weird variation of unenlightened self-interest.

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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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IMHO it comes from the last 20 years of Oxycontin abuse.

The feds are trying to shut down the pipeline and folks are pissed??? They know Rmoney supports businesses like helping drug manufactures sell billions of dollars of product. He'll open the American market to more addicting and more expensive pain killers.

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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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Hail to the Chief (of parts of West Virginia)!:


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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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The Democratic, Mountain and Republican Parties allow any voter who is not registered with an official major party to request their ballot for the Primary Election, but you have to ask the poll workers for a particular party ballot.

A voter may change party affiliation by submitting a voter registration form showing the change to the County Clerk, or at any Motor Voter office. The registration change must be made at least 21 days before the Primary Election in order to vote in the new party at the polls in the Primary Election.


http://www.sos.wv.gov/elections/Pages/V ... ation.aspx

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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:22 pm 
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IMHO it comes from the last 20 years of Oxycontin abuse.

The feds are trying to shut down the pipeline and folks are pissed??? They know Rmoney supports businesses like helping drug manufactures sell billions of dollars of product. He'll open the American market to more addicting and more expensive pain killers.

Follow the Rmon errrr... Money....



Interesting point.
I live in SW VA, not that far from WVA and the culture and mindset of people around here is similar, especially in the more rural areas and towns. I'm always amazed at the patients (and their family members) who blithely admit they're on these meds, and they eat 'em like candy. Young, healthy people who take this stuff for a variety of vague 'chronic injuries' (one 40-something guy was on oxycontin because he had been shot in the foot with a single BB when he was 13 years old. I'm not kidding). And here I am limping along with a back wrecked from nearly 30 years of pulling and lifting these patients, getting by on excedrin ... I need a new doctor lol.



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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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Some Doctors around here use urine tests on their long term pain patients to make sure the blood level is sufficient for pain relief, and the fact that the patient IS ACTUALLY taking the drug as prescribed. Some of these folks just turn around sell a portion or just the entire bottle.

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Hail to the Chief (of parts of West Virginia)!:



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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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Its West Virginia.....the heart of impoverished Appalachia, owned by big coal and motivated by racism.
A ray of Hope though - that inmate in Texas got more votes in the WV Dem. primary then Romney did in the Rep. primary, and Obama got more votes then both of them.

I seriously doubt West Virginia is on any of Jim Messina's pathways to 270EVs. It may be on his pathway to 400EVs, if he actually took the time to make one.
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West Virginia used to be a solid Democratic stronghold in presidential politics. Anyone who even hints at eliminating coal as a fuel for producing electricity might as well add another stop in Virginia instead of deciding to cross the state line.


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 Post subject: 2012: West Virginia
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For those of you who ain't heard of the Appalachian Lady yet (I ran into her whilst following the A&E Hatfield-McCoy miniseries), this interesting, seemingly dead-on commentary on Judd's success on the WV ballot:

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The people who voted for Keith Judd are not voting against the policies of Barack Obama like they claimed. They do not even understand most of the policies and issues, if I am being completely honest, and I know this because I spend entirely too much time explaining those issues and policies to ever believe otherwise.

<snip 2 para -- stating simply that they're racists>

The problem is not only racism, though. The real problem is that the vast majority of people in this state do not even realize that they are racists. They think that because they cheer on black athletes, it means they cannot be racists. They think that because they were fans of Michael Jackson when they were kids, it means they cannot be racists. They think that because they know someone who is black and they are not cruel to them, it means they cannot be racists.

See, the racism here is usually hidden beneath the surface. You see it when people talk about the drug problem, and blame African-Americans for it though the vast majority of the drug problem in West Virginia involves whites. You see it in the way they look at mothers with mixed-race children, and assume they are on welfare. You see it in the way they laugh at ethnic-sounding names, including that of the President of the United States. You see it in the way they claim Obama got to where he is today due to affirmative action. You see it in the way they claim that a member of Congress who happens to be African-American – but who also happens to be a Harvard-educated attorney and longtime Professor of Constitutional Law – is not qualified to be President of the United States.

You see it most clearly, however, when they give their vote for President of the United States to an insane federal prisoner with a white-sounding name, who they have never even heard of before in their entire life, when his opponent just happens to be African-American and has one of those ethnic-sounding names.


http://appalachianlady.wordpress.com/20 ... eith-judd/

Good site to follow...
Edit: Actually, upon further looking, I can't find anything older than February -- so she may also be blogging elsewhere (seems like it) but I haven't nailed that down yet. http://appalachianlady.wordpress.com/20 ... -know-lol/

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