My thinking has evolved since then.

Kerchner's comments remind me of a poster I frequently encountered 1-2 years ago in Hannityland, MinutemanCDC_SC. He was regularly calling for the Joint Chiefs to imitate those in banana republics and remove the President by force.

One year later, and American Stinker is on the case!



By the end, American Stinker states that Obama can "end the birth certificate controversy once and for all" by allowing the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners to examine a notarized copy of his LFBC. Then the birfers would have scientific proof of the validity of Obama's LFBC, and should the document be proven real, it would be irrational to doubt the LFBC.



And yet, on April 19, 2012, American Stinker wrote boldly about the previous expert analysis performed by "software experts".

The Sea Change: Obama's Confirmed Forgeries Are Not Going Away



On April 10, 2012, an American Stinker "expert" analyzed the PDF version of the LFBC. So why is American Stinker now saying that the only way to really know if the LFBC is a valid LFBC is to have the the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners analyze the notarized physical document? American Stinker is contradicting itself.

On April 28, 2011, one day after the release of the LFBC, American Stinker was calling out for "forensic" testing of the LFBC. Not So Fast, Mr. Obama: Trust But Verify

There are at least 8 articles on the LFBC on American Stinker for April, 2012. The issue will never go away. Which is why we must keep mocking birfers.

More brilliant journalism from yesterday's edition of American Stinker? Necrophilia is Not a Joke and Sex After Death.

The story is a hoax. American Stinker hasn't figured that out yet. But they are years behind on the LFBC, so no surprise there.

Oh, I've seen that nutcase around too. Dr. Orly's place among others.

Let's say this gets heard in court or in a Congressional hearing. The birthers have their technical experts who present their evidence that the long form was a forgery (I know they may not be qualified as experts, but for the sake of argument, let's say they are).
Does the defendant need to have experts who can refute the technical claims or would it be enough to have somebody from the Hawaii DOH say that they sent the long form to Obama, that the document in the image that was being questioned is the one they sent Obama and the information that is on the document matches what's on file on the original?

In other words, does the technical minutia matter if the Hawaii DOH says the document is genuine and the information on it is truthful?

IANL, but Dr. Alvin Onaka is the State Registrar. He's in charge of vital records. Hawaii law, IIRC, allows him to pick the format for copies of vital records. Given that, I believe he could probably hand write a copy of the key information in crayon on a cocktail napkin, seal it and stamp it, and it would be a legitimate, legal vital record.

as demonstrated in new hampshire and alabama, in front of a judge or other legal professionals an empty chair is sufficient.

in front of a jury of ordinary citzens or partisan apparatchiks, the defense may wish to present an actual rebuttal.

I thinks ya means Georgia, not Alabama.

FIFY

I came across this video from last year again.

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/04/27/ba ... rther.html

You can't listen to that and not get a little sad. And a little pissed.

And Donald Trump is a pig.

The best comment from that article

I went looking for good illustrations of how Birthers had said the long-form would solve everything, and then moved the goalposts. In the course of doing this, I realized that FreeRepublic was an ideal place to investigate. They had Birther threads that were going that morning, ignorant of the press conference. My favorite may be from poster '668 - Neighbor of the Beast.'

He wrote, on April 27 at 7:43 am:



The White House, of course, released the long-form about an hour after this post. And 668 was still on FR that morning shortly afterwards. His response? At 9:30:



At 10:30:



At 12:15:





It's like watching denialism in real-time.

It's practically surreal, no doubt about it.

Just because I want to preserve some of these, and because I might as well share them in the process:

April 26, 2011 - "It should be put to Obama: The country is dividing over this issue. He could put it all to rest in an instance. Everyday he delays is another day of wasted accusations and denials. He can, and it is his duty to put the matter to rest. He, and He alone is causing this chaos. For the good of country release the Long form and let the country get on with it business!"

April 26, 2011 - "President, Obama, just produce the long form birth certificate and remove all doubt. President Obama, are you there???? Hellloooooooooo. Is there anyone there????? We are talking about your birth certificate, and you are stonewalling."

April 26, 2011 - "Spoken another way, and I believe this is why many feel something is fishy & stinks, is Obama could end this whole charade by simply showing his "BC" (Birth Certificate), but instead all he can or will produce is a "certificate of live birth", something that can easily be made/generated "after" the fact."

April 22, 2011 - "Obama could end it all by just producing the long form of the birth certificate, which we have been told over and over again by Hawaiian government officials and the Obama administration."

April 22, 2011 - "He could end the controversy in a minute by just releasing the long-form certificate but he doesn't and that creates additional suspicion."

April 19, 2011 - "Ellen I always said that he could end this with just releasing the original, but he will not and this issues is never going away because he can't or all the world will be shown another lie this man spoken."

April 9, 2011 - "With all the hoopla, the media seems to forget one thing, President present could end the whole thing TODAY by just producing the birth certificate."

Here's an editorial that looks rather silly for being published on April 26. Media Matters even rebutted him before the 27th.

And while not a demand, this is funny to see on April 26:

Savanah Guthrie helps prove the LFBC released by the White House last year is a fake! And it's all about clipping masks!!



Oh and Gillar, if you're gonna put yourself out on the Internets, at least wash your hair before you tape. Gross.

I think his greenscreen is contributing to that effect. If you notice, he also seems to be missing most of his right ear, and his 'set' appears to be bleeding through his left shoulder.

It's MAGIC! The "computer experts" can apparently look at a computer screen-shot of a scanned document and some "hidden" dots can be said to come from the same pencil, which is apparently a regular #2 yellow.

Silly me, all these years I've been deluded into believing that the "#2" was actually a standardized method of grading pencils, and to be a #2 it had to pretty much be identical to every other #2. Learn something new every day I guess.

OK, I want to know who pays Gillar now.

Look at that first 30 seconds and tell me that didn't cost some money, the composite screen of birther videos from Orly to Arpaio. The set is expensive ... this is a guy who had a free BlogTalkRadio account and nothing much else not long ago. Where is he getting the money to pay for videos like this, hair or no hair?

Well, it cost *some* money. But I doubt it cost all that much.

The whole thing looks really off-the-shelf. The opening thirty seconds look exactly like something available as an option in a decent video-editing software package. And the set? You can buy virtual sets for a couple hundred bucks. Gillar's not even interacting with his set; he's just a floating, out-of-focus head in front of it (that's some bad greenscreen effort there).

I'm sure there's several hundred bucks invested in this, maybe a grand or so, but heck, my brother's been known to spend more than that on camera equipment as a hobby. There's nothing inexplicable about Gillar spending that much on *his* hobby. And it could always be offset by some donations, without the necessity of a secret financier.

I dunno. The way his hair is plastered on the front of his dome indicates to me that it hasn't seen the underside of a shower head in a few days ...

Maybe his hair saw the business end of a tube of Brylcreem. It was really good for keeping your hair plastered to your head in 40 mph winds.

Oh, I agree. I think the poor greenscreen made it look *worse*, but even ILM still couldn't have made it look *good*.