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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:00 am 
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Swift double slap delivered to Lenny on what a "dissent" is and how said dissent provably demonstrates that the SC were explicitly aware that their ruling makes WKA (and Obama) eligible to run for Prez.

God the guy is a complet and utter fuckwit

That's an understatement. I love how he doesn't disclose that he does work with Mario Apuzzo in crafting his cases. The guy is a horrible paralegal which explains why he couldn't finish law school. I have no training as a lawyer and have a better understanding of court cases, statutes and standing US Law.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:01 pm 
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and the beat goes on:

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Dissents are valuable resources. An opinion of the majority is fatally flawed if a conflict of law is created. Dissents are essential reading.


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Attorney Philip Berg hired an Indonesian law firm to interpret the law making Dunham and minor child Obama Indonesian citizens, Obama enrolled in school as an Indonesian Muslim. Now, the courts have liberalized enforcement of naturalization statute, requiring a formal letter of renunciation, not renuciation per se. However, the Bellei case 'belies' your application of such a letter of intent being required. Obama seems to have been operating as an Indonesian citizen through his first years of college, using the foreign passport and nationality as a 'citizenship of convenience.'


I can see why he never made it through law school.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:44 pm 
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What about normal people? My ex-boyfriend's father has lived in Japan going on 40 years (married a Japanese citizen wife, and chose to stay in Japan). He's never renounced his citizenship.

Yup, I'll have lived in the UK for 26 years on May 15 this year. Last time I checked, which was when I used my American passport to travel to Rome last month, turns out I'm still an American citizen. Imagine that.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:13 pm 
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What about normal people? My ex-boyfriend's father has lived in Japan going on 40 years (married a Japanese citizen wife, and chose to stay in Japan). He's never renounced his citizenship.

Yup, I'll have lived in the UK for 26 years on May 15 this year. Last time I checked, which was when I used my American passport to travel to Rome last month, turns out I'm still an American citizen. Imagine that.

Exactly there is no requirement. The law he speaks of was repealed in 1978 and also the supreme court has said it takes you to actively renounce your citizenship to lose it.

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:33 am 
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Phil Berg was a Hillary Clinton supporter who was furious an ineligible candidate was nominated. He filed suit, his analysis of naturalization law denying Obama citizenship at birth. I corrected Berg, sending him 8 USC 1409 and reminding him the Obama-Dunham marriage was void ab initio.

However, Berg's Indonesian law research was accurate, and your 1976 citation is flawed. There were 3.5 million Chinese legally residing in Indonesia, and they were given special dispensation . . . which a U.S. citizen marrying an Indonesian would not benefit from. Married, residing with Lolo Soetoro, and Obama taking on the Soetoro name . . . all required for the little Muslim bastard to be enrolled in school. Dunham and children were Indonesian citizens.

As for Berg's case, it avoided the Political Doctrine Question by being filed before the election. The Surrick court's response and Dismissal was terribly flawed, Berg indeed having standing being defrauded as a citizen and campaign worker.


Everyone else is flawed in their reasoning but berg and apuzzo are correct nevermind they can't win a case. The funny part about him quoting 8 USC 1409 saying that the Obama-Dunham marriage was void is that part C would destroy other birthers claims. Since he would have had citizenship at birth through his mother without the 5 year residency before 18 requirement. At least that's how I read part C as if Obama was born out of wedlock to a single mother.

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