Marine's Facebook page tests military rules

Highlands · **Posted:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:16 am

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The Court commends Sergeant Stein and all service members for their committed service to our country.

It is a tribute with great impudence to the United States Marine Corps that Sergeant Stein is fighting to stay in the service.

Nevertheless, Sergeant Stein associated himself as an active-duty Marine and stated, until clarified, that he would not follow all orders of his Commander-in-Chief because Stein is a racist douche canoe.

FIFT

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23582

No accompanying story, but from TPM via AP

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... r-facebook

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Marine Corps Decides To Discharge Sergeant For Facebook Posts Criticizing Obama

The Associated Press reports:

BREAKING: Marine Corps decides to discharge sergeant for Facebook postings criticizing President Obama. -EF

Reality Check · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:21 pm

Phil Cave sent me this link from the Army Times

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SAN DIEGO — The Marine Corps said Wednesday it has decided to discharge a sergeant for criticizing President Barack Obama on Facebook.

The Corps said Sgt. Gary Stein will be given an other-than-honorable discharge for violating Pentagon policy limiting speech of service members.

The San Diego-area Marine has served nearly 10 years in the Marine Corps. He has said he was exercising his free-speech rights.

The discharge will mean he loses all benefits.
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realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23582

Reality Check wrote:

Phil Cave sent me this link from the Army Times

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The Corps said Sgt. Gary Stein will be given an other-than-honorable discharge for violating Pentagon policy limiting speech of service members.

The San Diego-area Marine has served nearly 10 years in the Marine Corps. He has said he was exercising his free-speech rights.

The discharge will mean he loses all benefits.

Dumbass.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:44 pm

Shagnastie · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:00 pm

Semper Adios, Sgt. Jarhead (... and that comment is no reflection on the rest of the loyal serving Corps)

Plutodog · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:01 pm

Another news link: http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer. ... ces/502216

Has links to Gary's page and his tea party page with further info.
(new diagnosis?)

Reality Check · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:26 pm

From the Armed Forces Teabaggers FB page:

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Commanding General Yoo has ruled that Gary Stein will discharged for the Marine Corps with an Other Then Honorable discharge. His discharge will be postponed until results of a medical condition, he was diagnosed with on Monday, are returned and treatment is discussed.

I am resiting making light of that just in case it is something serious.

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

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"He is very disappointed," Kreep said. "His grandmother died last night and then this hit him."

Playing for the pity vote?

He should be thrilled with the discharge. Now he can work full-time and unshackled towards unseating the domestic enemy. :roll:

BillTheCat · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:25 pm **Posts:** 1428

Ssssssssssssssssssssssee ya!

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GreatGrey · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:58 pm

Now Gary has lotsa free time to go hunting with Ted Nugent.

PatGund · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:30 pm

Semper Infidelis, ex-Sgt Stein.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:33 pm

I suspect this may be a tad wrong or else we got a stick we need to be using on our retired military nutjobs:

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If you have plans to speak out against the current administration, I would strongly recommend against it until you are off active duty —and not collecting retired pay!

from the end of this otherwise useful 2007 Army Times article:

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Watch what you say: Speech limits under UCMJ

By Mathew B. Tully - Special to the Times
Posted : Monday Aug 27, 2007 12:22:38 EDT

http://www.armytimes.com/community/ask_ ... r_070827w/

Shagnastie · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:58 pm

I've been following this today on a couple of Facebook pages and news sources and have been totally appalled by the ignorance displayed in the comments, especially from some who claim to have been in the military and yet demonstrate complete ignorance of military speech policy. The Navy drilled that into us from day one and it was regularly reinforced.

Looks like the ex-Sgt. is now substituting regret for stupid:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... ke-it-back

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And he said he has also apologized to the president.

“If he was in front of me right now, I would salute him, say, ‘Yes, Mr. President, No, Mr. President,’ and when I walked away, I would still disagree with his policies. But those are two separate things.”

I can't help but suspect that someone egged this guy on, and some of the rhetoric he displayed early on was very "Oath Keeper-ish" in tone ... and sure enough, guess who showed up at his hearing as co-counsel but Stewart Rhodes himself. Naahhh, just a coincidence [-(

SueDB · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:15 pm

Plutodog wrote:

I suspect this may be a tad wrong or else we got a stick we need to be using on our retired military nutjobs:

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If you have plans to speak out against the current administration, I would strongly recommend against it until you are off active duty —and not collecting retired pay!

from the end of this otherwise useful 2007 Army Times article:

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Watch what you say: Speech limits under UCMJ

By Mathew B. Tully - Special to the Times
Posted : Monday Aug 27, 2007 12:22:38 EDT

http://www.armytimes.com/community/ask_ ... r_070827w/

In order for any retiree to be covered by the UCMJ, you must put the retiree on active duty, then the government can file charges. Costs a shitload of money to do this and the services aren't interested in spending a lot of money on old smelly farts.

borealis · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:16 pm

Compared to Lt Howe, he got off very lightly. You know for a marine, he sure is a whiny, sniveling little weenie. Disgusting. Play with teaturds and you just get shit all over ya.

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:17 pm

I don't do enuf FaceBook to know, but it looks like he deleted a post. He was feeling all bravo, and said no one could ever take the title "Marine" away from him.

Um... yes they did.

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:20 pm

I am thinking that Stein and Lakin can go on a nationwide "dumb and dumber" speaking tour.

John Thomas8 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:32 pm

I served in a bunch of units (Army) in my 12.5 years and I can't for the life of me remember folks EVER getting political. A wee bit about the legitimacy of Desert Storm during the lead up to it, but nevernevernever anything about prezinuts or congress outside of what they set promotion points to or pay raises/bennies.

This dude is a flat out idiot.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:20 pm

What's bothersome is how many people don't get that he's out to lunch on his military duty under the UCMJ and don't care if you tell them. And that's (if you believe them) including ex military out there in the great unwashed. THESE are the kind of people who need to be tested before they get anywhere near a ballot!

#-o

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:24 pm

John Thomas8 wrote:

This dude is a flat out idiot.

TeaBirther

Plutodog · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:10 am

Another known nutbar:

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"I am sad to see a Marine Sergeant may lose his career because he dared to criticize the President on a Facebook page. Should we have disciplined this young NCO? Yes. But to end this Warrior’s career with a less than honorable discharge is not the answer. This Marine had served nearly nine years in the Marine Corps and was planning to reenlist. Maybe if America had leadership that gained the respect of our military, instead of simply using them as stage props for speeches, this atmosphere would not exist." ~ Congressman Lt. Col. Allen West

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s ... 7993929079

SueDB · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:24 am

Plutodog wrote:

Another known nutbar:

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"I am sad to see a Marine Sergeant may lose his career because he dared to criticize the President on a Facebook page. Should we have disciplined this young NCO? Yes. But to end this Warrior’s career with a less than honorable discharge is not the answer. This Marine had served nearly nine years in the Marine Corps and was planning to reenlist. Maybe if America had leadership that gained the respect of our military, instead of simply using them as stage props for speeches, this atmosphere would not exist." ~ Congressman Lt. Col. Allen West

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s ... 7993929079

Which tells you something about the "Sterling" character of this war criminal.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23582

Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:

I am thinking that Stein and Lakin can go on a nationwide "dumb and dumber" speaking tour.

Sequoia32 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:37 pm

borealis wrote:

Compared to Lt Howe, he got off very lightly. You know for a marine, he sure is a whiny, sniveling little weenie. Disgusting. Play with teaturds and you just get shit all over ya.

Wow. I looked that up.

Stein did much worse and got off waaaay more lightly.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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