A Legal Lohengrin wrote:
Tink wrote:
That is 46% of the number of people who voted in the 2010 election. However, that is the same percentage of votes that Tom Barrett got, so it's hard to say how he would do. The question is, of those million plus petitioners, how many of them didn't vote for Barrett in 2010 and are likely to vote for him this time?
I think the issue is more how many people just sort of shuffled off to vote for Walker who won't make the effort to show up at a special recall election. I think it's a pretty good bet that the population of people who actually signed a recall petition are very likely to show up and vote against Walker. The question is really how many Walker supporters are still pumped enough to show up to reaffirm the guy.
Folks are pretty motivated to vote against Walker. IIRC, he has been fundraising for some time. But can he get conservatives to show up against a highly motivated and highly organized groups of union members and Dems?
I think there is a real chance that Walker will be recalled. He will have to play dirty, but he is so covered in filth that it will be hard for folks to see much dirt on opponents. Walker opponents have had 2 years to gather dirt on Walker, and they have found some seriously bad info on Walker.
When the recall movement reached 507,000 signatures, that number was reported after they had weeded through the sigs for bad or invalid sigs. The 1 million sigs submitted today have been sifted through. Certainly additional sigs will be tossed, but there is no way that the recall election won't occur.
The Repub party in Wis has been sweating it. They have filed an absurd lawsuit, using an Orly Taitz argument.
Quote:
Wisconsin Republicans have mounted a new response to the effort to recall Gov. Scott Walker —
filing a lawsuit today against the state Government Accountability Board, which oversees elections, alleging that Walker’s 14th Amendment constitutional rights are being violated by the procedures the board uses in verifying, accepting or rejecting petition signatures.
The state GOP’s legal complaint argues that
the GAB’s procedures for recall petitions, which involve the incumbent’s campaign challenging duplicate signatures of people who would have signed more than once —
place an undue burden on the Walker campaign. Under the law, the incumbent has a ten-day review period, in which to submit challenges.
snip.....
Somewhat ironically,
the shortness of the ten-day challenge period came up in this past year’s state Senate recalls — involving allegations of signature fraud by paid Republican collectors. In the end, the GAB gave the green light to three recalls against incumbent Democrats, deciding that the high burden to disqualify enough signatures to stop the recalls had not been met.snip.....
16.
The decision of one otherwise qualified elector to sign or not sign a recall petition can have no more weight than the decision of another otherwise qualified elector.snip.....
I recommend reading the rest of the article.
This lawsuit is absurd. If a sig and non-sig are equal in weigh, is a non-vote as valid as a vote?
Slartibartfast wrote:
I think this is exactly the point--recall elections are all about turnout. The big question in my mind is will the Kochs bankroll him big-time or will they throw him under the bus. I think, in terms of his value as a political asset, Gov. Walker is a sunk cost that likely has little further value, but the super-PACs may see it differently...
Super-PACs are lining up to give Walker money. But will it be enough? I don't think so. Had Walker not been punked during a fake phone call with "the Kock brothers", folks may be a little less willing to believe just how deeply Walker works with special interests. Walker can't pretend that he hasn't been deeply influenced by special interests who have blatantly asked him to work around the democratic process. He can't pretend that he didn't seriously considered initiating violence against legal protesters to break up protests.
I honestly think that Walker is screwed. But, GWBush won a 2nd term, so I shall be
cautiously optimistic about the recall election.
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After lawyering up, Scotty decides he better be ready to settle up (after all, he's got a Chicago lawyer):
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The investigation was secret so that it wouldn't cast a shadow on Walker's campaign during the 2010 election and because the County prosecutors thought Walker's office would comply with a secret investigation.