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Don't you need permission to add plaintiffs to the suit? She added:


You sure do when you are not acting as an attorney. Taitz is a petitioner, in pro se. She has no right to file an unsigned petition for any other party.

One wonders if the MS BAR will remain equally quiet and inactive as the CA BAR when assisting Teppernator fires a friendly worded salvo into their direction


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:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=35600#comments :twisted:
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Freda B. Tepper
April 14th, 2012 @ 6:27 am

A masterpiece. You’ve truly outdone yourself this time.

Don’t forget each side gets discovery. Begley and Tepper can’t wait to depose you.


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April 14th, 2012 @ 7:42 am

be my guest Mr. Tepper
I have nothing to hide. Besides, there is absolutely nothing that is relevant to elections fraud committed by Obama, that you can ask me. If you decided to go into fishing expeditions about my granny’s date of birth, or something like this, it will be disallowed as harassment.
You are the one, who has something to fear. More so your financier. Please, send him my regards and check, when is he available for depositions, unless he is willing to settle the case and look for another puppet

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Only Orly is the one attorney who thinks that lawyers communicate in public with each other thru blogs and blog comments on their case before court. Especially as she just pinpointed the Teppernator sharply as one Freda B =)) =)) =)) =))


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AnitaMaria wrote:
From her RICO motion:
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Obama committed mail and wire fraud when in and around January 25th, 2012 he, through his attorney Michael Jablonski sent by mail, fax, and email a defamatory letter to the Secretary of State of Georgia, where he attacked Plaintiff Taitz, who was attorney in Farrar v Obama claiming that he had produced a birth certificate and that he suffers from Taitz.

Hmmm - Actually we never did see the content of said communication anywhere. But by OrlyLaw it can only be classified as defamatory, no way else.


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Note that nothing that Orly has allegedly filed in the past couple of weeks is on the docket yet--neither of her oppositions to Scott Tepper's PHV, her opposition to the Democratic Party's motion in limine, her request to record the proceedings, nor her amended complaint.


Yes, but this is only because of the moles whom we have positioned as clerks.

You don't mean by any chance one Siddarth Velamoor, do you :?: :shock: :o :roll:

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I love the way that counsel points out the 9, 11, 10 thing with the liberal use of (sic). That is a lawyer's favorite tool for pointing out to the Court that the pleadings are fucked up, and "hey we are just responding to the bullshit that was filed".
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We once received a set of interrogatories from an Insurance defense firm that were requesting medical records including "doctors, nurses, and thisapist" records. I laughed myself silly and did a snarky response to them and served them on opposing counsel (with a proper response as well) littered with "thisapist (sic) records" all the way through. Counsel called me and told me that his new secretary had overtyped some old Rogs (that were addressed to a female) and done a "find and replace" for "her" with "his" and had no idea what the result had been. Apparently she was let go a short time later and said "thank God, I HATE this job"


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Hmmm, seems to be missing something. :-k


Orly doesn't want to win this case. She just wants to keep the Flying Monkeys in anticipation for the "OMG Moment!". Besides, the more she fails, the more she can prove that she was persecuted. Maybe, as a way to compensate her for all of her suffering, Orly will be made special prosecutor when it comes to prosecuting Obama and sending his ass to GITMO!

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Very interesting Doe defendant:

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Defendants John Does and Jane Does who are yet to be identified, retaliated against Plaintiffs and particularly plaintiffTaitz in a following manner...

3. Subsidizing and running websites, where Plaintiffs and particularly Taitz were defamed, humiliated, harassed and intimidated.


Further affiant sayeth naught.


Ruh Roh ... should I stop my monthly subscription to TFB?* I wouldn't want to be sued by Orly!

*Not gunna happen.

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She is so happy now that the "parties go into discovery". Yup, that will go well. She is the petitioner and the defendants are entitled to take discovery from her regarding her "facts". Including her production of the documents illegally obtained by Hollister and Jordan. Then there is a motion to examine her regarding her barratry. My wild guess for number#1 on the list? Orly Taitz herself.

What a moron.


I'm wondering; might Hollister and Jordan face The Teppernator??? [-o<

How many times has Orly tried to subpoena Obama?


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Thanks for the answer and this video. I can only imagine Orly being deposed. If she is deposed, I hope the other folks in the room bring some ear protection because the pitch of her voice gets higher and higher the more upset she is. I suspect that if Orly was deposed, she would be very, very upset. :mrgreen:


Like this?



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=)) =)) =)) =)) This was 31 months and 5 days ago! =)) =)) =)) =))

Yabutt ... this was before she knew the law wasn't on her side. :lol:

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Orly's got a checkmate.

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:evil: :evil: Signature of co-plaintiff Leah Lax on the First Amended Complaint in MS :evil: :evil:
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MS signature of Leah Lax


Nice proof that one of her co-plaintiffs signed her amended complaint, and that all the others didn't.

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AnitaMaria wrote:
From her RICO motion:
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Obama committed mail and wire fraud when in and around January 25th, 2012 he, through his attorney Michael Jablonski sent by mail, fax, and email a defamatory letter to the Secretary of State of Georgia, where he attacked Plaintiff Taitz, who was attorney in Farrar v Obama claiming that he had produced a birth certificate and that he suffers from Taitz.


Obama claimed that he suffered from Taitz? :-? That's gotta hurt...


Topical ointment will fix that.

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Orly's lining up her witnesses. First subpoenaed is Bettina Viviano, a very disgruntled democrat who helped make a movie "We Will Not Be Silenced". From the website
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As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were defined by by our forefathers in documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. "We the people" expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected. However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this has not been the case. We believe The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn't happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for "dinners," etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.


Here's a recent interview with her:





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Also being discussed in the Viviano thread: viewtopic.php?f=53&t=7512

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Is she actually allowed to use a California subpoena in Mississipi?


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Msottement wrote:
Is she actually allowed to use a California subpoena in Mississipi?


If someone actually wants to show up and testify for something, you could probably serve them with a matchbook cover, subject to the other side's rights to participate. Of course, if the person doesn't want to appear, can a Mississippi court force someone to appear in California? Nope.

I suppose Viviano could be such a pathetic attention whore that she actually shows up, but narcissistic failures generally like their spectacular failures to star them. I suppose what would happen then would depend on what the other side wants to do. They would have a number of options. (And if you know those don't help Orly!)

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Is she actually allowed to use a California subpoena in Mississipi?


Of course she can and she should send the next two to Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo. :-bd

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I've been mostly away for a couple of days, and trying to catch up, and I don't know if this has been posted or not, but if so I apologize for the duplication.

2012-04-13 - MS - MDEC Answer and Affirmative Defenses

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jtmunkus wrote:
Orly's got a checkmate.

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:evil: :evil: Signature of co-plaintiff Leah Lax on the First Amended Complaint in MS :evil: :evil:
Posted on | April 14, 2012 | No Comments

MS signature of Leah Lax


Nice proof that one of her co-plaintiffs signed her amended complaint, and that all the others didn't.


Orly herself offers her self defeat by listing relevant MS law:
from amended complaint pg9-11 wrote:
23-15.963. EXCLUSIVE PROCEDURES FOR CONTESTING
QUALIFICATIONS OF CANDIDATE FOR GENERAL ELECTION;
EXCEPTIONS.
(1) Any person desiring to contest the qualifications of another person who has
qualified pursuant to the provisions of Section 23-15-359, Mississippi Code of
1972, as a candidate for any office elected at a general election, shall file a petition
specifically setting forth the grounds of the challenge not later than thirty-one (31)
days after the date of the first primary election set forth in Section 23-15-191,
Mississippi Code of 1972. Such petition shall be filed with the same body with
whom the candidate in question qualified pursuant to Section 23-15-359,
Mississippi Code of 1972.
(2) Within ten (10) days of receipt of the petition described above, the appropriate
election officials shall meet and rule upon the petition. At least two (2) days before
the hearing to consider the petition, the appropriate election officials shall give
Taitz et al v Democratic Party of MS, Secretary of State of MSnotice to both the petitioner and the contested candidate ofthe time and place of
the hearing on the petition. Each party shall be given an opportunity to be heard at
such meeting and present evidence in support ofhis position.
(3) If the appropriate election officials fail to rule upon the petition within the time
required above, such inaction shall be interpreted as a denial of the request for
reliefcontained in the petition.
MISSTSSPPT ELECTTONS CODE 23-t5-961, ELECTIONS CIIALLENGE
(5) upon the filing of the petition and bond, the circuit clerk shall immediately, by
registered letter or by telegraph or by telephone, or personally, notifi, the Chief
Justice of the Supreme Court, or in his absence, or disability, some other judge of
the Supreme court, who shall forthwith designate and notifu from the list provided
in Section 23-15-951 a circuit judge or chancellor of a district other than that
which embraces the district, sub district, county or any ofthe counties, involved in
the contest or complaint, to proceed to the county in which the contest or complaint
has been filed to hear and determine the contest or complaint. It shall be the
official duty of the circuit judge or chancellor to proceed to the discharge of the
designated duty at the earliest possible date to be fixed by the judge or chancellor
and of which the contestant and contestee shall have reasonable notice. The
contestant and contestee are to be served in a reasonable mtrnner as the judge or
Taitz et aI v Democratic Party of MS, Secretary of State of MS l0chancellor may direct, in response to which notice the contestee shall promptly file
his answer, and also his cross-complaint if he has a cross-complaint. The hearing
before the circuit court shall be de novo. The matter shall be tried to the circuit
judge, without a
jury. After hearing the evidence, the circuit judge shall determine
whether the candidate whose qualifications have been challenged is legally
qualified to have his name placed upon the ballot in question. The circuit judge
may, upon disqualification of any such candidate, order that such candidate shall
bear the court costs ofthe proceedings.
(6) Within three (3) days after judgment is rendered by the circuit court, the
contestant or contestee, or both, may file an appeal in the Supreme Court upon
election contest
2) Within ten (10) days of receipt of the petition described above, the appropriate
executive committee shall meet and rule upon the petition. At least two (2) days
before the hearing to consider the petition, the appropriate executive committee
shall give notice to both the petitioner and the contested candidate ofthe time and
place ofthe hearing on the petition. Each parry shall be given an opportunity to be
heard at such meeting and present evidence in support ofhis position.
(3) If the appropriate executive committee fails to rule upon the petition within the
time required above, such inaction shall be interpreted as a denial ofthe request for
reliefcontained in the petition.
Taitz et al v Democratic Party of MS, Secretary of State of MS ll(a) Any party aggrieved by the action or inaction of the appropriate executive
committee may file a petition for judicial review to the circuit court of the county
in which the executive committee whose decision is being reviewed sits. Such
petition must be filed no later than fifteen (15) days after the date the petition was
originally filed with the appropriate executive committee

In other words, all new plaintiffs fail to qualify just by appearing to late at the show.

I really hope that the clerk of the court first asks for the required bond from each new plaintiffs before the piles of poo are washed down the gutter.


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As everyone here has probably surmised, Orly's subpoena is not enforceable and is, like previously mentioned above, just as good as a matchbook as far as requiring Bettina Viviano to appear.

California law is not dissimilar from federal law and many other states with respect to the issuance of subpoenas. An attorney in a California case may issue a subpoena in that case, but pro se parties have to have the subpoenas issued by the court. Problems - the case is not a California case and Orly is not an attorney in the Mississippi case [which really makes no difference as the case is not a California case anyway].

Anyone want to hazard a guess on whether or not Orly will give notice of the subpoena/deposition to the other parties [anyone want to hazard a guess whether or not Orly knows she is suppose to give such notice]?

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jtmunkus wrote:
Orly's got a checkmate.

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:evil: :evil: Signature of co-plaintiff Leah Lax on the First Amended Complaint in MS :evil: :evil:
Posted on | April 14, 2012 | No Comments

MS signature of Leah Lax


Nice proof that one of her co-plaintiffs signed her amended complaint, and that all the others didn't.


By signing on, Leah has agreed to have her ass sitting in a chair at every proceeding in Jackson, MS. Until dismissal of the case, of course.

That should require no more than one trip down South.

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As everyone here has probably surmised, Orly's subpoena is not enforceable and is, like previously mentioned above, just as good as a matchbook as far as requiring Bettina Viviano to appear.

California law is not dissimilar from federal law and many other states with respect to the issuance of subpoenas. An attorney in a California case may issue a subpoena in that case, but pro se parties have to have the subpoenas issued by the court. Problems - the case is not a California case and Orly is not an attorney in the Mississippi case [which really makes no difference as the case is not a California case anyway].

Anyone want to hazard a guess on whether or not Orly will give notice of the subpoena/deposition to the other parties [anyone want to hazard a guess whether or not Orly knows she is suppose to give such notice]?



You mean ... like ... she didn't follow Mississippi Rule 45????????????????????????? Color me surprised. I guess the giveaway is that the "subpoena" is a command of THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA to Ms. Viviano. I was wondering why THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI would so easily defer and take a back seat to California, what with the 50 states bein' all sovereign and such.

Rule 45(a), Mississippi Rules of Civil Procedure:


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Every subpoena shall be issued by the clerk under the seal of the court


Nope. Nuttin' about a pro say party bein' able to issue it. Where would a pro sayer get a seal of Hinds County Circuit Court anyway? Perhaps the Hinds County Circuit Court clerk should be involved in this.

Rule 45(b):


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A non-resident of this state subpoenaed within this state may be required to attend only in the county wherein he is served, or at such other convenient place as is fixed by an order of the court.


Does Bettina reside in Orange County? Hmmmmmmm, also wondering, where is that commission from the Hinds County Circuit Court to the Orange County Superior Court? Orly must've forgotten to post that.

Rule 45(c):


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Service of the subpoena shall be executed upon the witness personally.


Calling Lila Dubert!!!!!!!!!!! Start hoofing it over to Hollywood, dear.

Rule 45(d):


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Unless for good cause shown the court shortens the time, a subpoena for production or inspection shall allow not less than ten days for the person upon whom it is served to comply with the subpoena.


Let's count. April 13 (plus let's give it three days for personal service, so round it to April 16) plus ten equals ... April 20??????????? Must be Moldavan math.




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Anyone want to hazard a guess on whether or not Orly will give notice of the subpoena/deposition to the other parties?
She already did. She posted it on her blog. :lol:

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HOWEVER ...

Questions, I still haz some. Remember during the Fake Grand Jury phase, we had a couple discussions about a crime called "abuse of process"? And remember how we finally reached a consensus that serving the fake "resentments" on various people wasn't an abuse of process, but if they ever started serving arrest warrants or subpoenas, it might be a violation, depending on the laws of any particular state?

Now here we have a knowing abuse of process, IMHO. She knows from her adventures in Hawaii and Georgia that she can't validly subpoena Ms. Viviano with that subpoena. She's faking the authority of the courts of California to compel Viviano's appearance at Orly's office for the deposition. If Ms. Viviano doesn't check with an attorney, she may be fooled into showing up for the deposition. All without notice to opposing counsel.

She's also trying to use fake documents without any legal authority in order to compel witnesses in the Mississippi case. So if there are abuse of process laws in either California OR Mississippi ...

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HOWEVER ...

Questions, I still haz some. Remember during the Fake Grand Jury phase, we had a couple discussions about a crime called "abuse of process"? And remember how we finally reached a consensus that serving the fake "resentments" on various people wasn't an abuse of process, but if they ever started serving arrest warrants or subpoenas, it might be a violation, depending on the laws of any particular state?

Now here we have a knowing abuse of process, IMHO. She knows from her adventures in Hawaii and Georgia that she can't validly subpoena Ms. Viviano with that subpoena. She's faking the authority of the courts of California to compel Viviano's appearance at Orly's office for the deposition. If Ms. Viviano doesn't check with an attorney, she may be fooled into showing up for the deposition. All without notice to opposing counsel.

She's also trying to use fake documents without any legal authority in order to compel witnesses in the Mississippi case. So if there are abuse of process laws in either California OR Mississippi ...


Perhaps this is something that the Teppernator can address. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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kreisman wrote:
As everyone here has probably surmised, Orly's subpoena is not enforceable and is, like previously mentioned above, just as good as a matchbook as far as requiring Bettina Viviano to appear.

California law is not dissimilar from federal law and many other states with respect to the issuance of subpoenas. An attorney in a California case may issue a subpoena in that case,but pro se parties have to have the subpoenas issued by the court. Problems - the case is not a California case and Orly is not an attorney in the Mississippi case [which really makes no difference as the case is not a California case anyway].

Anyone want to hazard a guess on whether or not Orly will give notice of the subpoena/deposition to the other parties [anyone want to hazard a guess whether or not Orly knows she is suppose to give such notice]?


So, lawyers (since IANAL blah, blah, blah), could this be considered by Mississippi as Orly practicing law without permission by the Court to do so, since it is a Mississippi case? And can she be sanctioned for doing so (pa-leeez, at last. Any sanction has to be reported to the great sleeping giant, the CA Bar, right?)?


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Well, defendants' counsel wanted to know who the witness was. If they hadn't wanted Orly to subpoena her witness, they should have just waited to see who she'd call in Mississippi. But, being impatient obots, they forced Orly to subpoena Vulviano.

Really, it's quite simple OrlyLaw, craftily designed to vex the esteemed [former] state bar investigator Tepper.

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