Allen West - R - FL

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:52 am

He got the number of Communists wrong. It is 57, has always been 57, and will always be 57.

DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:40 pm

West is repeating a meme that any member of the Progressive Caucus is a socialist. I saw it repeated often in the last two cycles with respect to Pete DeFazio (OR CD-4 D), even though he's a borderline Blue Dog.

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:01 am

This document may be the source of Allen West's claim about 70 "Communists" in the U.S. Congress. Notice that it is about the Democratic Socialists of America, not the Communist Party. RWNJ's do not admit that there is a difference. Any organization that favors redistribution of income, dignified work, community empowerment, global non-violence, environmental justice, social justice, and democratic participation must be Communist. Note that the list of members is out of date.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:40 am

He was just playing to the RWNJ's.

Quote:

At a Tuesday town hall meeting in Palm City, Fla., West said that he believes there are "about 78 to 81 members of the Democratic Party that are members of the Communist Party."

The comments came after a member of the audience asked him what percentage of the American legislature are "card-carrying Marxists." After a drawn-out pause, West clarified his claim, saying, "It's actually called the Congressional Progressive Caucus."

It's his trademark.

Quote:

This is not the first time West has made headlines for provocative remarks. In December, he said the Democratic Party's spin machine would have made Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels proud. At a dinner speech in January, West told a crowd that President Obama and other top Democratic leaders should take their campaign message and "get the hell out of the United States of America."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns- ... 3238.story

And now he's fundraising off of it.

Quote:

Rep. Allen West says in a new fundraising pitch that liberals and the media are “going nuts” about his comments this week likening the Congressional Progressive Caucus to communists, and the Florida Republican is looking to cash in on attention.

In an email blast to supporters Friday from his reelection campaign, West says he’s been a target of the political left for good reason: It’s because he’s “not afraid to speak the truth.”
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“That’s why I’m the number one target of liberals and their friends in the media who are going completely nuts about my comments at a recent Townhall meeting,” the email states.

It goes on to add, “In response to a question about Marxists in Congress, I called out the Congressional Progressive Caucus for their extreme left-wing positions. I stand by the point of my comments and I need you to stand with me today by making a contribution of $10 or more.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75107.html

Hey, Joe Wilson raised over a million for disrespecting POTUS with his "you lie" outburst.

DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:27 pm

TollandRCR wrote:

This document may be the source of Allen West's claim about 70 "Communists" in the U.S. Congress. Notice that it is about the Democratic Socialists of America, not the Communist Party. RWNJ's do not admit that there is a difference. Any organization that favors redistribution of income, dignified work, community empowerment, global non-violence, environmental justice, social justice, and democratic participation must be Communist. Note that the list of members is out of date.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09

Interesting. If you go all the way to the bottom. you'll find a clearly worded copyright message. ORYR has some splainin' to do.

DrIrvingFinegarten · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:11 pm **Posts:** 199

I guess the term "liberal" doesn't scare people anymore. That's why people like West are throwing around the word "Communist."

ZekeB · **Posted:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:25 am

DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:

I guess the term "liberal" doesn't scare people anymore. That's why people like West are throwing around the word "Communist."

That and we are now one more generation removed from McCarthyism. The 'baggers skipped that page (and several others) when they read their history books.

June bug · **Posted:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:46 pm

TollandRCR wrote:

This document may be the source of Allen West's claim about 70 "Communists" in the U.S. Congress. Notice that it is about the Democratic Socialists of America, not the Communist Party. RWNJ's do not admit that there is a difference. Any organization that favors redistribution of income, dignified work, community empowerment, global non-violence, environmental justice, social justice, and democratic participation must be Communist. Note that the list of members is out of date.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09

This is just a listing of Congressional Progressive Caucus members. No way many of these mainstream Dems would be caught dead self-identifying as Socialists of any kind, Democratic or not. This is the DSA's fantasy, put to use by the right wing.

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:50 pm

June bug wrote:

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This is just a listing of Congressional Progressive Caucus members. No way many of these mainstream Dems would be caught dead self-identifying as Socialists of any kind, Democratic or not. This is the DSA's absurd fantasy, put to illegitimate use by the right wing.

As I view it.

I don't know the structure of Socialist parties in the U.S., but I would not be surprised to find that the DSA is marginal.

June bug · **Posted:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:07 pm

Thanks for the fix, Toll. You found the exact words I was missing! :-*

Old Grunt · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:28 pm **Posts:** 920

I love how West wears his DD 214 on his lapel.

In no way does that scream "jack ass".

Old Grunt · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:28 pm **Posts:** 920

mimi wrote:

I'm not sure how I feel about the guy being used like this. I hope that he gets a job out of it.

Me either. It's not his fault that his brother is a jackass. I don't like that he is being used as a political prop.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23583

Allen West Booted from NAACP Event

From Fox Nation...

Quote:

Eve Samples: Communist claims prompt NAACP to stand up Allen West
By Eve Samples, TC PALM

Whatever ideological differences members of the NAACP might have with U.S. Rep. Allen West, the local chapter was willing to put them aside for one nonpolitical night.

Its leaders invited the Republican from Plantation to give the keynote speech at its annual fundraiser in Martin County, the Freedom Fund Banquet. The theme was "Still Standing For Freedom and Equality," and they wanted to hear West speak about his rise to fame.

Instead, the NAACP chapter pulled the plug on the event Tuesday — four days before it was to be held at a Palm City country club.

The reason: "There's a certain statement he made about Communists," said Jerry Gore, president of the Martin County chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10671

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Why on earth did they invite him in the first place? This isn't the first time he's done or said awful things. He's a proven liar. OTOH, they did invite him, so they should have let him speak. The crowd booing him would've made for some great footage.

jtmunkus · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 pm **Posts:** 3516

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Adrianinflorida · **Posted:** Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:18 pm

/\ /\ This (thumbs up)

borealis · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:12 pm

Rep Allen West makes bizarre statement that Social Security is "slavery".

Last I checked Florida TeaBaggers liked their Social Security. They just don't want Baby boomers to get it.

Bob Ross · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:22 pm

borealis wrote:

Rep Allen West makes bizarre statement that Social Security is "slavery".

Last I checked Florida TeaBaggers liked their Social Security. They just don't want Baby boomers to get it.

I hope this assclown gets voted out of office in a landslide.

esseff44 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:52 pm

borealis wrote:

Rep Allen West makes bizarre statement that Social Security is "slavery".

Last I checked Florida TeaBaggers liked their Social Security. They just don't want Baby boomers to get it.

He's talking about the under 65 people who manage to get through the process and qualify for disability (if they have paid into it enough quarters). Like Medicare, it is not a freebie. You pay for it out of every paycheck if you are going to be covered.

Here are the numbers from the Congressional Budget Office. Compare with what he says. It does not compute.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/ ... urance.pdf

What does he have against insurance? and how is it in anyway like slavery? We can choose to pool our risks or not?

Regular Social Security is a pension scheme and is a different fund. The number of people retiring will be increasing rapidly as Boomers retire (if they can afford to). Using 1946 as the baseline for the Baby Boom, the Boomers started retiring in 2008 and started signing up for Medicare in 2011. It has not been a secret for the last 60 years that there was going to be a big bump in the numbers right about now. It would actually help the employment figures if more people could afford to retire and make openings for younger people.

kate520 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:56 pm

Please.

Those 81 or so Communists in the Progressive caucus will enjoy those slaves.

Alan West has no way to check the accuracy of the comments that fly out of his mouth. Or his ass.

SueDB · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:28 pm

From The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Mrs. Iselin: [at meal time] I'm sorry, hon'. Would it really make it easier for you if we settled on just one number?
Sen. John Yerkes Iselin: Yeah. Just one, real, simple number that'd be easy for me to remember.
[Mrs. Iselin watches her husband thump a bottle of Heinz Tomato Ketchup onto his plate]
Sen. John Yerkes Iselin: [addressing the Senate] There are exactly 57 card-carrying members of the Communist Party in the Department of Defense at this time!

kstreet67 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:13 pm

SueDB wrote:

From The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Mrs. Iselin: [at meal time] I'm sorry, hon'. Would it really make it easier for you if we settled on just one number?
Sen. John Yerkes Iselin: Yeah. Just one, real, simple number that'd be easy for me to remember.
[Mrs. Iselin watches her husband thump a bottle of Heinz Tomato Ketchup onto his plate]
Sen. John Yerkes Iselin: [addressing the Senate] There are exactly 57 card-carrying members of the Communist Party in the Department of Defense at this time!

Mimi, that is priceless! I have no doubt that the irascible and quite predictable Mr. West got his number (of communists in the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party) in a similar way!

It appears that Joe Walsh and Allen West love saying the most outrageous things to get free publicity and air time. Both are running for re-election in their districts and realize that this ain't 2010 anymore. They realize that they can't afford the big money ads on TV so this is the alternative. What pitiful fools...

SueDB · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:27 pm

For our overseas friends, the label on the Heinz Ketchup sez "57 Varieties" which has been the company banner for years.

Adrianinflorida · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:49 am

SueDB wrote:

For our overseas friends, the label on the Heinz Ketchup sez "57 Varieties" which has been the company banner for years.

Heinz is sold over here in the old world.

SueDB · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 pm

Adrianinflorida wrote:

SueDB wrote:

For our overseas friends, the label on the Heinz Ketchup sez "57 Varieties" which has been the company banner for years.

Heinz is sold over here in the old world.

You never know from where folks are posting. Inside jokes can be frustrating for some.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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