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This video of Apuzzo filing the challenge is rather amusing. I think Hurlbutt and Pupura are with him.


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Geez Mario has aged!

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Geez Mario has aged!


That much hate takes a real toll on you. See Orly without the 25 pounds of makeup put on with a paint roller.

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Here is a link to the transcript request form.

The decision should be available on the Rutgers' Law Library website when it is published.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:53 am 
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bob's post includes two videos. The first (shorter one) is where the judge tells Mario "Hey... you really think if this two citizen parent stuff is true, Hillary wouldn't have used it?" Then he tells Mario to talk to Purpura so he'll quit fidgeting or whatever.

the second video (the longer one) happened first. Idunno who videoed it, but I skipped to the end to find out how it turned out. :mrgreen: The videographer was pleased with the judge. At 17:10 he whispers "the judge made our case". \:D/

The part after the break isn't here. The part where the Purple guy speaks. Do you think it has something to do with reports of what the judge said. Both BFB and the birther commenter at ORYR have said that it appears the judge will rule against birthers. Shocking, I know.

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Apuzzo and Purple Guy Denined!!

From Conservative News and Views:

A shocking turnabout

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But the judge shocked Apuzzo when, at about 7:30 p.m., he called Apuzzo to tell him that the Obama campaign had prevailed on both points. Said the judge, according to Apuzzo:

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As far as I’m concerned, Obama was born in Hawaii.


Apuzzo was probably about the only person who was shocked.

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Huge surprise there.

And another one bites the dust.

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But the judge shocked Apuzzo when, at about 7:30 p.m., he called Apuzzo to tell him that the Obama campaign had prevailed on both points.


Translated:

You had zero proof that President Obama was born any place other than Hawaii and your two parent citizen nonsense is full of shit. [-X

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Hurlbut! After reading that article, I think I know who the videographer was as well. :lol: "the judge made our case".

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Isn't this the same warmed over crap from last time that was declared "frivolous" once already?

This pony needs to get another trick. This one trick does entertain, but it costs the taxpayers money.

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But the judge shocked Apuzzo when, at about 7:30 p.m., he called Apuzzo to tell him that the Obama campaign had prevailed on both points.


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You had zero proof that President Obama was born any place other than Hawaii and your two parent citizen nonsense is full of shit. [-X



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Within two hours, according to a deadline that Masin gave him, Apuzzo filed an exception to Masin’s ruling. Apuzzo took exception to the following:

1. Judge Masin ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii with no evidence on record, after acknowledging that fact during the hearing.

2. Judge Masin ruled that Obama need not comply with statute to show that he is eligible, solely because he need not “consent” to someone circulating a nominating petition for him.

3. The judge suggested that Obama might have to show eligibility later. He laid no basis for such a ruling.

4. The judge misread the precedents and gave short shrift to the historical evidence that the Framers of the Constitution defined “natural-born citizen” as one born in-country to two citizen parents. Apuzzo devoted half of his 30-page exception to this analysis alone.


Apuzzo plans to appeal directly to the Appellate Division of the New Jersey Superior Court. He earlier told CNAV that he was ready to argue before the State and even United States Supreme Courts if he had to.



Appeal? I'm shocked.

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Isn't this the same warmed over crap from last time that was declared "frivolous" once already?

This pony needs to get another trick. This one trick does entertain, but it costs the taxpayers money.

The frivolity finding related to the standing question. This appears to be a ruling closer to the merits.

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SueDB wrote:
Isn't this the same warmed over crap from last time that was declared "frivolous" once already?

This pony needs to get another trick. This one trick does entertain, but it costs the taxpayers money.

The frivolity finding related to the standing question. This appears to be a ruling closer to the merits.


Thank you. It looks like a very entertaining summer season. :D

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My favorite paragraph:

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Ms. Hill offered no evidence, but spent her time objecting to the entire case, to every witness whom Apuzzo called, and every document he tried to introduce. In every specific case, she said that the documents were neither originals nor certified copies. More generally, she said repeatedly that New Jersey law did not obligate Obama in any way to prove that he was eligible to the office of President. The only grounds for challenging a nominating petition, said Hill, were whether the petitions were in the proper form, all who signed were registered voters, no voter signed more than one petition, whether the campaign gathered enough signatures, etc.



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As much as you’d like it to be, there is no conspiracy. It’s a simple fact that – as in Georgia – the birthers have no case to offer. This applies to both the country of birth and the natural born citizen stuff.

Adults would accept the court’s ruling and move on. Sadly it seems as if all the birthers can do is slate the justice system (which would, of course, be a WONDERFUL system if it found in their favour).

It’s time to face reality – birtherism is dead. It always was dead. It’s time to move on. Maybe by focusing on some real issues for once.
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Except for one thing: there is only one way that anyone can really lose to an empty chair, and that’s if the system is rigged. No Terry, there is another way: have an nincompoop like Mario representing you, who cannot understand the rules of evidence nor the applicable law. No rigging necessary when you have the Putz}

Challenges will crop up all across the land. In the meantime, this case is headed for the Appellate Division of the NJ Superior Court.


Where Mario will waste more of the court's time and lose again.

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He'll waste more time and a also BFD's tax money. You have to keep the lights on somehow.

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Mario must have had a long night. His appeal "Exceptions to Initial Decision" is already posted here.


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It's poorly written. It doesn't even say what the decision it is objecting to was.

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I wonder if that is all the video that Hurlbut took? If what was posted was the best of Apuzzo's day it must have been a really bad day. That Wilcox fellow looked like a stooge sitting there while Judge Masin told Apuzzo why his testimony wasn't necessary and would add nothing to the case before him.

I agree with TF's comment. The only real shocker of the day was how much Mario has aged.

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Mario must have had a long night. His appeal "Exceptions to Initial Decision" is already posted here.


Captioned "STATEMENT OF PROCDURE"

Three words in, and already a mistake.

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If you'd prefer to watch it in non-fullscreen mode (so the text isn't so huge) here's the link to the main page (I couldn't find one from the fullscreen page, nor did clicking "exit fullscreen" fix the problem)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/88812721/Purp ... on-4-10-12

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
It's poorly written. It doesn't even say what the decision it is objecting to was.

Oh, do you mean to tell me I can buy cookie cutter appeals on-line?

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I love that judge. I felt like I was in a Lower East Side coffee shop :lol:

It made me homesick :(

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Loren wrote:
Captioned "STATEMENT OF PROCDURE"

Three words in, and already a mistake.


No, Loren. I stepped in some procdure when I went out to feed the horse this morning. :turd:

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TexasFilly wrote:
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Ms. Hill offered no evidence, but spent her time objecting to the entire case, to every witness whom Apuzzo called, and every document he tried to introduce. In every specific case, she said that the documents were neither originals nor certified copies. More generally, she said repeatedly that New Jersey law did not obligate Obama in any way to prove that he was eligible to the office of President. The only grounds for challenging a nominating petition, said Hill, were whether the petitions were in the proper form, all who signed were registered voters, no voter signed more than one petition, whether the campaign gathered enough signatures, etc.


Incidentally, this argument appears to be a recurring theme in defenses of birfer suits in state courts. New Hampshire is the state that most prominently adopted a policy that the state election agency has only the jurisdiction to determine the sufficiency of the form of the papers and not the substance. The only state that has openly taken the opposite position, Georgia, humiliated itself in a pathetic display of Orlyism and was then forced to find for Obama because of the abject lack of anything resembling evidence.

I'd be tempted to do a state-by-state survey and see what the "majority view" is on this legal issue, but I suspect it has not arisen in all 50 states and that, in fact, the current spate of ballot challenges actually is determining the new majority rule, and that the majority rule will be that states lack this authority (and for that matter are glad that they do not).

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