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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:02 pm 
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Sheriff Joe is definitely flailing; might be going off script and Corsi can't control the old coot very well.


I had the opposite reaction. I find Arpaio interviews to be unusually tedious, in that they're repetitive even for Birther rhetoric. Arpaio sticks so closely to his script that he can't seem to compose an original answer to a question.

Klein's first question to Arpaio is to give an overview of the investigation's conclusions, and rather than answer that, Arpaio proceeds to give his canned explanation of how the Cold Case Posse investigation originated. The 250 signature petition, the rhetorical question about the wastebasket, how he avoided spending taxpayer funds, how he instructed the Posse to exonerate Obama, how he's not accusing Obama of a crime, etc. It's all the exact same comments he makes in every interview, no matter whether they're relevant to an actual question or not.

For a guy who constantly complains that the media isn't asking about the Posse's findings, he's awfully insistent on expending time and energy talking about the Posse's origins. In every. Single. Interview.

Virtually the only new and interesting thing Arpaio says in the whole interview is when he distances himself from one of Klein's questions. Klein asks about the Posse's investigation into Democratic misconduct in the 2008 primaries, and Arpaio responds by saying that that's not really part of the Posse investigation. (Klein, you see, is referring to Corsi's work on that subject, which can easily be confused with the Posse's. Especially given that the Posse-affiliated video of Allen Hulton looks so much like the non-Posse-affiliated videos of Bettina Viviano and Michele Thomas.) So even there, Arpaio isn't giving any new insight into the Posse's work; he's simply telling his interviewer "No, that's not us."

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Couldn’t Sheriff Arpaio call a local grand jury to investigate the situation for Maricopa County, regardless of what forgery upper levels want to participate in? Isn’t this exactly what the citizen grand juries were formed for, when elected officials become the problem? A local grand jury could take it into court, work with the sheriff. They could have a trial and also share their information with every county sheriff across the country, so as many counties as wanted, could ban Obama from the ballot, and both he and anybody found to have participated in the forgery could be arrested by the sheriff if they enter that county. Isn’t that the way it works. The Supreme Court is a last resort, and people do not have to wait and be victimized by their own elected officials. I hope there are a lot of sheriffs who come on board and county by county, the DNC crime ring will be painted into a corner.
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There are some states, where citizens can submit their complaints directly to the grand jury. There are instances of “runaway grand juries” who went against the DA. I do not know if in AZ citizens can submit the complaint directly to the grand jury. I do not know a rule, where a sheriff can submit a report directly to the grand jury. As far as I know, he has to go through the authorities, who of course can be a part of the corrupt establishment. As far as I know, the sheriff can submit his report to the District Attorney and the District attorney will forward to the grand jury. I believe he can also submit to the Attorney General, US attorney, Secretary of State, Governor, FBI and Congress and they need to run with it. That is why I am beating the drums of war and saying that he needs to submit the report before it is too late.

In terms of arrest, he can arrest a person who is committing forgery and using forged documents. I am sure Sheriff Arpaio arrested numerous individuals, who came from Mexico and are using forged documents. Believe it or not, but Obama’s case is not any different from cases of illegal aliens from Mexico, who are using forged IDs. The only difference is that corrupt party bosses on both sides of the isle simply made a deal to look the other way.

You need to urge Arpaio to act before it is too late

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Oooh, another stoopid Crazy Lucy idea.

We should have a thread with just the date and the stoopid idea(s) for that day. It would probably fill up pretty quickly.

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That's a great plan, except for the fact that Arpaio has repeatedly said in public that he doesn't think Obama broke any laws.

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The problem is that the grand juries are oftne manipulated by the DAs and US attorneys to go in the “proper” direction, if you know what I mean. I am wondering, if someone reading this blog is serving now on a grand jury?

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I am wondering, if someone reading this blog is serving now on a grand jury?


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Paging Fitzpatrick!


No, bob. FitzPatrick will soon be serving because of a grand jury.

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I am wondering, if someone reading this blog is serving now on a grand jury?

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Paging Fitzpatrick!

No, bob. FitzPatrick will soon be serving because of a grand jury.

The Fitz does have a certain expertise in determining who sits on a grand jury....

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Update from investigator Zullo
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The investigation remains ongoing and is now a criminal one. FUTURE enforcement actions, whether judicial or not, are yet to be determined. That is their position as explained today.

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The investigation remains ongoing and is now a criminal one. FUTURE enforcement actions, whether judicial or not, are yet to be determined. That is their position as explained today.


A criminal one by whom, pray tell. Enquiring minds and all that. 8>

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tjh wrote:Update from investigator used car salesman Zullo

Edited for accuracy.

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A criminal one by whom, pray tell. Enquiring minds and all that. 8>


Maybe they'll issue one of those subpoenas they've been talking about. For months.

Corsi, September 16, 2011:

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WND confirmed with Zullo and with Arpaio’s office that the investigation into the Obama birth certificate has been sanctioned fully by Arpaio’s office. The investigation, they said, will be conducted with “utmost diligence,” and the investigators will be authorized to utilize subpoena power.


http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/345685/

Maybe they've been playing 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide who/what to subpoena. :P


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tjh wrote:
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The investigation remains ongoing and is now a criminal one. FUTURE enforcement actions, whether judicial or not, are yet to be determined. That is their position as explained today.


A criminal one by whom, pray tell. Enquiring minds and all that. 8>


I think when they say a "criminal investigation" they mean it is an investigation by criminals rather than of them.

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You did take note that Corsi's Surprise petition has morphed in a "criminal complaint signed by 250 people." Now Zullo has morphed into a "Criminal Investigator."


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OBC: ARPAIO: GOP CANDIDATES ‘HIDING’ FROM ELIGIBILITY– (Not all)
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When I read that wnd.com post, I already knew Arpaio was wrong, because:

A. There are at least 5 [birther "candidates"] openly challenging “Obama’s” eligibility . . . .

B. I had talked to Presidential candidate John Dummett about his visit to Arpaio weeks ago and knew that John had communicated his outspoken views on Obama’s ineligibility at that time. So I emailed John and invited him to comment. I agree with John that Arpaio is probaly not considering him (and the other candidates above) in his statement.

The context of DummETT's comments about Arpaio would violate the 4-paragraph rule. So more, as they say, at the link.

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Now since it is now a "criminal investigation" shouldn't it be handed off to the Arizona State Police (ie. real cops) or since it is concerns Federal Issues - the local FBI (again real cops)?

I just see it as another way to bilk the taxpayer. Now it is an "official" investigation does that mean they get to rip off the county (again)? I wonder how much of the county's money they can steal with this shtick? :?: :?: :?:

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Now since it is now a "criminal investigation" shouldn't it be handed off to the Arizona State Police (ie. real cops) or since it is concerns Federal Issues - the local FBI (again real cops)?

I just see it as another way to bilk the taxpayer. Now it is an "official" investigation does that mean they get to rip off the county (again)? I wonder how much of the county's money they can steal with this shtick? :?: :?: :?:



He has already bilked the Maricopa taxpayers out of $100 million, but the addled-brain taxpayers seem oblivious to his financial abuses in office. Remember how much that special prosecutor spent on Clinton? Didn't matter.

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Looks like any possibility of Corsi's fist puppet Joe getting someone to try and mock up a "criminal" case against the president just took a serious hit.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.c ... arpaio.php

In a Phoenix courtroom filled with fellow lawyers and some of his biggest critics on Tuesday, the former Arizona prosecutor who served for years as Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s right-hand man was stripped of his license to practice law.

A three-member panel of the State Bar of Arizona ruled that ex-Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas abused his powers as a prosecutor to target his political enemies. Because of that, they ruled he would be disbarred.

One of Thomas’ top aides, Lisa Aubuchon, was also disbarred for her role in the misconduct. A second aide, Rachel Alexander, had her law license suspended for six months.


More, as they say, at the link...

Oh and as the DoJ is also very interested in other ex prosecuters in the Shurrif Joe ongoing investigation I wonder if we shall see some desperate appeals for plea bargains if DoJ push a lawsuit...?

http://www.officer.com/news/10690573/ar ... ustic-dept


Federal officials fired a new warning shot Monday in the ongoing battle between the Obama Administration and local law enforcement in Maricopa County, Arizona.

The Justice Department expressed frustration at the actions of Maricopa County Attorney William Montgomery, saying he has been a moving target and provided inconsistent comments on his relationship with the office of Sheriff Joseph Arpaio, who is under federal investigation.

In a letter to Montgomery, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Roy Austin, Jr. said he was particularly upset over the prosecutor's stance on sex crimes in the key Arizona county, which includes Phoenix.

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Yep, 50 million dollars to investigate a land deal where the Clintons lost money and to prove that The Prez got a blow job in the oval office.

If only we knew that was only the preface to how nutty the Americans would prove themselves over the coming years...

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Say what you will about all the RWKJ's I live with here in Arizona.

At least we have a functioning state bar.

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Yep, 50 million dollars to investigate a land deal where the Clintons lost money and to prove that The Prez got a blow job in the oval office.

If only we knew that was only the preface to how nutty the Americans would prove themselves over the coming years...



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He has already bilked the Maricopa taxpayers out of $100 million, but the addled-brain taxpayers seem oblivious to his financial abuses in office. Remember how much that special prosecutor spent on Clinton? Didn't matter.


$100 million is just what's missing from the dedicated jail fund. $50 million in lawsuit payouts, and Joe's paid his attorney $732K so far, in county funds.

What other malfeasance is being hidden under the smokescreen of the birther posse?

Arpaio's a fucking criminal who needs to be imprisoned. The levels of corruption he was allowed to pursue and achieve, with lapdogs Thomas and Aubuchon, have affected millions of lives in Maricopa County. This is a criminal cabal. Organized crime running the sheriff's office. No less.

Except they're called "tea party" instead of "family."

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He has already bilked the Maricopa taxpayers out of $100 million, but the addled-brain taxpayers seem oblivious to his financial abuses in office. Remember how much that special prosecutor spent on Clinton? Didn't matter.


$100 million is just what's missing from the dedicated jail fund. $50 million in lawsuit payouts, and Joe's paid his attorney $732K so far, in county funds.

What other malfeasance is being hidden under the smokescreen of the birther posse?

Arpaio's a fucking criminal who needs to be imprisoned. The levels of corruption he was allowed to pursue and achieve, with lapdogs Thomas and Aubuchon, have affected millions of lives in Maricopa County. This is a criminal cabal. Organized crime running the sheriff's office. No less.

Except they're called "tea party" instead of "family."



Arpaio reminds me of the corrupt sheriff in "Flamingo Road". Difference: Greenstreet gave some class to the role and Arpaio has none.

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Reminds me more of Orson Welles' character in Touch of Evil.

Just as crazy ...

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Arpaio reminds me of the corrupt sheriff in "Flamingo Road". Difference: Greenstreet gave some class to the role and Arpaio has none.



I like to think of him as Sheriff J.W. Pepper from the Bond films :lol:

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000393/

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