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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:04 pm 
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That adds holiness to the lawsuit, doncha know. The SovCits must have adopted it.


I think it adds Douchebaggery, but that's just me.

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03/26/2012 19 MOTION for Default Judgment as to Schultz by Liberty Legal Foundation. (Attachments: # 1 Affidavit Decl. Irion)(Irion, Van) (Entered: 03/26/2012)

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03/01/2012 4 MOTION to Dismiss Pursuant to Rule (12)(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) by Democratic National Committee, Chip Forrester, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Tennessee Democratic Party. (Stranch, J.) (Entered: 03/01/2012)

She responded, moran.

IANALBIRF question: Was the MTD filed in the Arizona case? (There is a Tennessee case and it looks like this MTD was filed by DNC and the Tennessee Democratic Party).

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Ya beat me to it, June Bug.

I haz the same question re bob's docket entry.

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You are correct; she responded to the Tennessee suit.

Then I will amend my observation: Irion failed to prove that she was served with the Arizona suit.

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bob wrote:
You are correct; she responded to the Tennessee suit.

Then I will amend my observation: Irion failed to prove that she was served with the Arizona suit.

bob - How could you? :shock:

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bob wrote:
You are correct; she responded to the Tennessee suit.

Then I will amend my observation: Irion failed to prove that she was served with the Arizona suit.


Oh, puhleeeze, bob. She obviously knew about the TN suit. Therefore, according to birferlaw 101, she should know about the AZ suit, served or not.

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You are correct; she responded to the Tennessee suit.

Then I will amend my observation: Irion failed to prove that she was served with the Arizona suit.

bob - How could you? :shock:

Too many few margaritas.

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What should the proof of service look like?

The blurry USP.com filed by VennDiagram seems to indicate that a notice was left (no authorized recipient available) on Jan 29 and "delivered" on Jan 30, but no indication that it was signed for.

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You are correct; she responded to the Tennessee suit.

Then I will amend my observation: Irion failed to prove that she was served with the Arizona suit.


Oh, puhleeeze, bob. She obviously knew about the TN suit. Therefore, according to birferlaw 101, she should know about the AZ suit, served or not.


She might have known about it, but, per the TN MTD she hadn't been served with the TN action as at 1st March.

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She can oppose the Arizona motion (if she learns about it) or seek to vacate any default by making the argument that had she known about the purported service (and query whether it was effective), she would have moved to dismiss in Arizona. After all, she did move to dismiss in Tennessee.

I think Irion is playing a dangerous game. I hope it explodes in his face.

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shrek wrote:
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bob wrote:
You are correct; she responded to the Tennessee suit.

Then I will amend my observation: Irion failed to prove that she was served with the Arizona suit.


Oh, puhleeeze, bob. She obviously knew about the TN suit. Therefore, according to birferlaw 101, she should know about the AZ suit, served or not.


She might have known about it, but, per the TN MTD she hadn't been served with the TN action as at 1st March.


Shoulda used a snark smiley, but didn't think it necessary. :oops:

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She can oppose the Arizona motion (if she learns about it) or seek to vacate any default by making the argument that had she known about the purported service (and query whether it was effective), she would have moved to dismiss in Arizona. After all, she did move to dismiss in Tennessee.

I think Irion is playing a dangerous game. I hope it explodes in his face.

True. Moreover, according to no less an authority than the learned Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire, over 99% of defaults are reversed on appeal. :D

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03/26/2012 20 RESPONSE TO ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE re 16 Order, Set Deadlines,, by Plaintiff Liberty Legal Foundation. (Irion, Van) (Entered: 03/26/2012)




The link above takes me to the old response to OSC re the sham Dems. Has VennDiagram lodged a response to the OSC re Debbie Wasserman Schultz, no 16?

I still haz a confuzzled re service. VennDiagram quotes AZ Rules of Civil Procedure
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“Service by Mail; Return. When the whereabouts of a party outside the state is known, service may be made by depositing the summons and a copy of the pleadings being served in the post office, postage prepaid, to be sent to the person to be served by any form of mail requiring a signed and returned receipt


As mentioned in my previous post, The blurry USP.com attached by VennDiagram to his "proof of service" seems to indicate that a notice was left (no authorized recipient available) on Jan 29 and "delivered" on Jan 30, but no indication that it was signed for.

In his Declaration attached to his Motion for Default

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The United States Postal Service track and confirm system confirms that such papers were in fact received by Defendant Debbie Wasserman Schultz as evidenced by the receipt, a copy of which shall be attached to this declaration


No such receipt is attached.

IAALBIAJFFA. It seems to me that if a signed and returned receipt is required in terms of the rules, this ain't good enough. If I am right about that, is he hoping a busy inattentive clerk isn't going to notice and will rubber stamp his default? Given the his first Motion for Default was picked up by Judge Bolton issuing her OSC, that seems unlikely.

Where I practice, this stunt following one judicial shot across the bows would result in something akin to judicial apoplexy and a hearing put out by order of the Court for counsel to explain themselves.

I can't seem to find the folder for the AZ case at Jack's. Has any response been lodged by any of the Defendants?

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I can't seem to find the folder for the AZ case at Jack's. Has any response been lodged by any of the Defendants?


Don't think so.


http://www.scribd.com/my_document_collections/3310361

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As mentioned in my previous post, The blurry USP.com attached by VennDiagram to his "proof of service" seems to indicate that a notice was left (no authorized recipient available) on Jan 29 and "delivered" on Jan 30, but no indication that it was signed for.

Nor any indication of what was put in the mail. (A Valentine's Day card?)

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I just re-read the court order and see now that the court doesn't believe anything that Van Irion tries to make them accept:
1. Summons was sent to the Democratic Whatever Inc as per "company address" and not to any individual designated to receive such papers.
2. Reading the ruling, and snooping thru some other documents, I get it that Van Irion did OrlyLike confirm sending of documents himself that rather by an independant agent.

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... not to an individual but to a corporation is not sufficient to effectuate service on a corporation under either the federal or Arizona rules.

Plaintiff also states there were two attempts to serve the registered agent for the National Democratic Party of the USA as registered with the Tennessee Secretary of Stateand that both attempts were refused. No detail is provided with respect to these attempts atservice but the Court infers that both were also registered mail. The Court finds that service has not been properly made upon Defendant National Democratic Party of the USA, Inc. Inorder to properly serve this corporation, the Court requires that Plaintiff deliver a copy of thesummons and complaint to an officer, a managing or general agent, or any other agent authorized by appointment or law to receive service of process. Service must be made by aperson qualified to serve a summons and complaint under Rule 4(c)(2), Fed. R. Civ. P.


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:P jack must be bizzy doing, you know, real life stuff.

but, he had a few minutes earlier.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/87113788/AZ-2 ... st-Schultz

I'm sure he'll be back soon. :D

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/87113788/AZ-2012-03-28-LLF-ORDER-Denying-Motion-for-Default-Against-Schultz

Default against Schultz denied because POS doesn't indicate she signed anything.

Deja vu: It is like I read that somewhere.... :-k

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:cheer: :cheer: Venn Diaphragm's "I'm not confident" prediction on the Lakin show appears to have been justified.

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Who but a birfer could possibly believe that by playing a shell game with service-of-process returns to obtain a default judgment, you could remove an incumbent President from the national ballot?

Oh wait. Maybe Mr. Diaphragm (h/t to June bug) knew this was nothing more than a PayPal-ready publicity stunt from the get-go.

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This also means that, per the Judge's 3/22 Order stating that the case against Debbie Wasserman Schultz will be dismissed unless properly served within five days, will now be dismissed.

Hubba hubba.


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Bastid's lucky to get off with just a denial. :evil:

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Bastid's lucky to get off with just a denial. :evil:


That's what I said. :evil:

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Except for the fact that Mr. Aryan is apparently fluent in English, this whiny screed could have been written by Orly.

Venn Aryan wrote:
Unfortunately America’s courts are corrupt. In our Arizona lawsuit the defendants were served, but failed to show up in court. When LLF filed motions for default judgment, Judge Susan Bolton acted more like a defense attorney than a Judge. She denied one motion for default judgment by interpreting a procedural rule in a way that it has apparently never before been interpreted. She denied the other motion for default by refusing to accept a confirmation of delivery from the U.S. Postal Service and noting that a return receipt was missing. The return receipt was somehow “lost” by the postal service. What’s disturbing about these rulings is the fact that most courts routinely grant default judgments when defendants don’t show up. If a defendant later shows up and proves that they were not properly served the court can easily vacate the judgment and pick up the case where it left off. Issuing a default judgment forces a defendant that is avoiding the litigation to show up or accept the judgment. It is interesting that the Arizona court instead decided to assert defenses that the absent defendant didn't offer on its own behalf. LLF has now served the defendants, again, and expect responses in our Arizona case later this month.


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More at the link, including his commentary on his other cases.
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In Tennessee we filed a motion for an injunction only to have our case removed from state court to federal court the evening before our injunction hearing. You see, about 30 years ago the Federal government quietly took away a little more of the states’ sovereignty by changing the rules related to cases being "removed” from state courts. This rule change gave any defense attorney unfettered authority to take any case away from any state court without asking permission from any judge simply by notifying both courts. The defendants in our Tennessee case waited until the evening before our injunction hearing to notify the courts and LLF that the hearing wouldn’t be taking place. Neat trick, huh? Of course they waited until we had traveled over 400 miles to attend the hearing before informing us of their plans.

LLF has filed a motion in Tennessee Federal Court to have our case returned back to the state court. We’re still waiting for a ruling from the Federal court. Unfortunately the Federal court may not rule for months. Another rule change from just five years ago leaves no effective method to force any Federal court to rule on a pending motion. So, Federal courts can effectively sit on motions, and entire cases, until they are moot. We can only hope and pray that the Tennessee Federal Court will actually rule on our motion in time to make a difference.

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