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Huh? What "message" is Taitz sending by participating in these "rigged" elections?

The one on her candidate statement. The only one she cares about. The smearing of the President of the United States of America.

Ahhh. So Taitz doesn't think she's going to win. She's just going through the motions of campaigning to attract attention to "the message."

Crafty! :roll:

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...Moreover, while there wasn't polling at the time, I suspect he was a hero, not a clown in the eyes of the electorate.

There was polling in Georgia in the 1960s, but it is going to be hard to retrieve the results and they might not speak to the issue of exactly how the voters of Georgia viewed Lester Maddox. What we recognize today as polling began in the U.S. in the 1930's. Most polls were national, so the subsample of Georgia citizens would not have meant anything. However, accounts of Maddox's career do refer to Gallup state polls about his prospects against his competitors, which included Jimmy Carter. Searching the Atlanta Journal-Constitution is probably the best way of retrieving the results. Local editorials and letters to the editor are somewhat more likely to be informative about how Maddox was viewed. I would bet that he was seen as a hero.

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...Moreover, while there wasn't polling at the time, I suspect he was a hero, not a clown in the eyes of the electorate.

There was polling in Georgia in the 1960s, but it is going to be hard to retrieve the results and they might not speak to the issue of exactly how the voters of Georgia viewed Lester Maddox. What we recognize today as polling began in the U.S. in the 1930's. Most polls were national, so the subsample of Georgia citizens would not have meant anything. However, accounts of Maddox's career do refer to Gallup state polls about his prospects against his competitors, which included Jimmy Carter. Searching the Atlanta Journal-Constitution is probably the best way of retrieving the results. Local editorials and letters to the editor are somewhat more likely to be informative about how Maddox was viewed. I would bet that he was seen as a hero.


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Interesting. I thought that Pat Caddell, Jimmy's Carter's pollster, is considered the father of modern political polling (1976), having changed it radically. But don't know for sure, just something I have heard from time to time.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:23 pm 
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I generally disapprove of the "malicious primary vote" trick, because there is usually some non-zero possibility of the horrible candidate actually getting elected and being a menace to society. There is an absolute zero risk of Orly getting elected.

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Every vote that Taitz receives she will trumpet and celebrate as proof that she is important and relevant, even when she loses. So why contribute to that? She is likely to come in second anyway due to name recognition among the otherwise ignorant.

Perhaps O'rly will come in second. Perhaps not. I doubt O'rly will spend a nickel on television advertising. The Republican party will likely spend something on their endorsed candidate, even in a losing cause. We here at TFB have name recognition of O'rly. I don't think O'rly has that much other name recognition outside the nutjob and birther communities. It's going to be interesting. Again, I want O'rly to finish in a solid 5th place.

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It took her 3 months, but Orly has finally gotten around to submitting the name and address of the the bank that allegedly holds her campaign bank account. The FEC issued her a letter requesting the information (because she initially did not fill out the form properly, of course) on Nov. 18.

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?C00505206


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Interesting. I thought that Pat Caddell, Jimmy's Carter's pollster, is considered the father of modern political polling (1976), having changed it radically. But don't know for sure, just something I have heard from time to time.

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Political polling has evolved, but I doubt that any professional pollster would say that Pat Caddell is the father of modern political polling. Some of the questions asked today were being asked in the 1940s. The sampling methods that had been developed by the U.S. Department of Agriculture were adopted by most pollsters after the debacle of the Dewey-Truman election. The best of modern political polling is still the National Election Studies, which is now a collaboration of Stanford and the University of Michigan. There are many pollsters who were contemporaries of Caddell who did a better job of it and did not become a Fox Democrat. Richard Wirthlin, pollster for Reagan, was easily Caddell's superior. I personally think that Caddell plunged off the deep end in the 1980s and is now simply weird.

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So far 20 DVDs were purchased

$22.50 for each autographed DVD. One is a DVD of the historic trial in Georgia and one is the DVD of the historic testimony in New Hampshire exposing ObamaForgeryGate

$2.50 for shipping and handling

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=33136 :twisted:

That $500 (less expenses)! That should cover the fee to not be endorsed by the California GOP!

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So far 20 DVDs were purchased

$22.50 for each autographed DVD. One is a DVD of the historic trial in Georgia and one is the DVD of the historic testimony in New Hampshire exposing ObamaForgeryGate

$2.50 for shipping and handling

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=33136 :twisted:

That $500 (less expenses)! That should cover the fee to not be endorsed by the California GOP!


So.....Where's the IRS in all this Orlymess?

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$2.50 for shipping and handling

I thought O'rly put a $50 stamp on everything. :-k

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"Stamp, stamp, stamp." - Orly Taitz, Jan 26, 2012.

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So far 20 DVDs were purchased

$22.50 for each autographed DVD. One is a DVD of the historic trial in Georgia and one is the DVD of the historic testimony in New Hampshire exposing ObamaForgeryGate

$2.50 for shipping and handling

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=33136 :twisted:

That $500 (less expenses)! That should cover the fee to not be endorsed by the California GOP!


So.....Where's the IRS in all this Orlymess?

Hmmm -- is there something like CA sales tax due, or is there a mom-and-pop-small-shop limit to be reached first ?


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I believe the rule is - If the buyer is instate, then you should be collecting sales tax. If the buyer is not buying from a location in CA, then CA would love to collect sales tax on that too.

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Latest polling: Dr. Orly Taitz is ranked #1 among CA GOP voters, while GOP board endorsed Emken polled dead last with only 1% of the vote. Stand up against corrupt establishment! Don’t let them steal the election yet again!

A poll conducted by Pulse Opinion Research on March 8th, 2012 shows that conservative businessman Al Ramirez and “birther” activist Orly Taitz are running neck and neck for first place among Republican candidates for the United States Senate.

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Elizabeth Emken, the candidate narrowly endorsed by the Board of Directors of the California Republican Party (CRP) behind closed doors last weekend, is running in last place with only 1% of the vote.

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15% of Republicans surveyed would vote for Al Ramirez if the election were held today. The only candidate polling higher is Orly Taitz at 18.7%.

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=33335 :evil:

:twisted: Survery results: http://attachment.benchmarkemail.com/c7 ... rimary.xls (Excel) :twisted:

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Ramirez 7%
Feinstein 40%
Shifren 2%
Williams 3%
Emken 1%
Gloria 1%
Hughes 3%
Taitz 8%
Other 3%
Not sure 30%

Republicans:
Ramirez 15%
Feinstein 8%
Shifren 2%
Williams 6%
Emken 2%
Gloria 0%
Hughes 6%
Taitz 19%
Other 3%
Not sure 38%

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The Repub winner will be the one who spends the most $$ on advertising. O'rly, how much do you plan on spending?

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My guess is that CA Republicans are concerned about this and will start to spend money on the endorsed candidate. They must know that they can't win in the fall with any of their candidates, but they don't want to have to deal with having Orly on the ballot. I would love to see negative ads against her and her reaction to them. :lol:


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Looks like that "Not Sure" fellow is in second place among likely voters.

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Only if narrowly means unanimously .

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Elizabeth Emken, the candidate narrowly endorsed by the Board of Directors of the California Republican Party (CRP) behind closed doors last weekend, is running in last place with only 1% of the vote.

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Poll: O.C. birther leads GOP Senate field
March 16th, 2012, 4:47 pm · · posted by Martin Wisckol, Politics reporter

Laguna Niguel attorney Orly Taitz, known nationwide for efforts to prove President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen, is leading the Republican field in the reelection bid of U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., according to a poll by another Republican in the race.

Taitz is the best known of the candidates, thanks to her numerous suits against Obama, and polls at 19 percent among Republican voters, according to the poll by Los Angeles businessman Al Ramirez. Ramirez places second at 15 percent. Danville autism advocate Elizabeth Emken received the state GOP’s endorsement on Sunday but was tied for last place at 2 percent in the Ramirez poll.


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If Taitz spent at least $500,000 she could lock up second place in the primary.

She won't.

So be happy. Don't worry.

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My guess is that CA Republicans are concerned about this and will start to spend money on the endorsed candidate. They must know that they can't win in the fall with any of their candidates, but they don't want to have to deal with having Orly on the ballot. I would love to see negative ads against her and her reaction to them. :lol:


Unfortunately, we will be denied that fun, IMO. I think what will happen is GOP advertising will be about Emken, in a positive vein only. The last thing the GOPs want to do is even acknowledge that Orly is a Republican. They will spend some, but not a lot. I still think that once that happens, Orly will lose those votes that come from name recognition only. And I do think that is the main factor -- people polled know her name and not who she is, in such early polling, GOPs respond with her name. That will fade and those votes will switch to Emken with $4-5M in advertising by the Party. Nonetheless, I think that Ramirez may well end up in second place because in an Open Primary and in an atmosphere where ethnicity is a driving factor because of the immigration issue, Latinos may well cross over and vote for him regardless of party or his positions.

I predict that Orly will end up in 4th place with less than 10 percent. (And that she will scream "rigged, corrupt." Duh!) I also predict she will file at least one suit against one of the following: 1) The CA GOP; 2) SoS Debra Bowen; 3) Emken or Ramirez (or both!). I expect before long she will be directing her FMs to look for dirt on her GOP competition. Any other prognostications?


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OD: I agree with you re: negative advertising against Orly. I would still love to see it though. :)


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The Republicans are insane.


They arrived at insanity in the mid-late 90's and flew well past it by the early 2000's. I think they are so far gone insane would be a few miles up.


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this ad was e-mailed to 150,000 supporters of Sharon Angle, who led Nevada challenge to Harry Reid, but was robbed of her senate seat in a highly rigged and manipulated election [in Nevada]

Do you remember when Ronald Reagan was Governor of California?

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Hi, this is Dr. Orly Taitz, and I am a conservative Republican running for U.S. Senate in California.

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When rumors circulated that Barack Obama was not a U.S. citizen, I led the legal team who investigated his birth certificate.

[...]

Will you join me in helping defeat Senator Feinstein? Your generous donation of $50, $100, or even $250 will do a great deal to help my campaign.
Thomas/PatriotofPast wrote:
Wonderful ad Orly, just one small coment tho…
The Generous donation of 50-100-250 dollars?
Should read “Your generous donation of 5-10-20 or more would be greatly appreciated…
Times are rough Orly, donations of that amount are kinda high considering the Economic Toilet Obama has put us in.
Just a thought Mrs Taitz…God Bless

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