Leo Donofrio

Reality Check · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:29 am

Didn't their clients tell them to drop the ineligibility bullshit - before they fired the dynamic duo that is?

mimi · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:29 am

Is there an estimate of when we can expect the ruling on that? How long does it usually take?

ballantine · **Joined:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:21 pm **Posts:** 372

Other than Wells and Carco, has he ever filed anoather case? Amazing how he thinks he some legal genius when his two cases were laughed out of court. Most lawyers go their whole careers without have a case called "utterly frivolous" by a federal circuit court. According to the second circuit:

“As to the merits of Appellants’ claims, they are utterly frivolous. We reject these claims on the merits for substantially the same reasons set forth by the district court below.”

The second circuit would be less kind to his distortions of citizenship case law.

bob · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:42 am

Reality Check wrote:

Didn't their clients tell them to drop the ineligibility bullshit - before they fired the dynamic duo that is?

IIRC, their main client dropped them. But they might have had others as well.

But, yes, they were fired because the client could see the sanctions coming. And the court specifically sanctioned Donofrio and Pidgeon, and not the client.

It has been over six months since the bill was submitted. I know it a big case and the judge has a heavy docket, but it still seems like a long time. (I don't periodically review the docket, so perhaps something happened, and Donofrio and Pidgeon haven't mentioned it.)

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23548

bob wrote:

Reality Check wrote:

Didn't their clients tell them to drop the ineligibility bullshit - before they fired the dynamic duo that is?

IIRC, their main client dropped them. But they might have had others as well.

But, yes, they were fired because the client could see the sanctions coming. And the court specifically sanctioned Donofrio and Pidgeon, and not the client.

It has been over six months since the bill was submitted. I know it a big case and the judge has a heavy docket, but it still seems like a long time. (I don't periodically review the docket, so perhaps something happened, and Donofrio and Pidgeon haven't mentioned it.)

Last docket entry is 7/20/11.

AnitaMaria · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm **Posts:** 2107

Donofrio says he giving up lawyerin' for good:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ... -brothers/

Quote:

After long consideration and discussion with my family, I am saying goodbye to this blog and the law. I am retiring my law license and will be concentrating on making films, and writing music.

There is no lawyer, politician or judge who will change the world into what God intended it to be – one family, one love. Angels are real. It’s gonna be a full on landing soon.

Some are in the video at the following link.

“BLOOD BROTHERS”

ONE LOVE.

Leo Donofrio

Wierd guy. :-?

ZekeB · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:48 pm

He's going into thye gay video business? :-k

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5248

Well, if he has seen the writing on the wall and is heading off into the sunset and goign to so something positive like making music, I wish him well.

jtmunkus · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 pm **Posts:** 3496

Don't you have to have been lawyerin' to done quit lawyerin'?

Good riddance!

:-bd

Reality Check · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:00 am

Well he had two cases. Donofrio v Wells and the Old Carco case. They turned out splendidly. $\:D/$

mimi · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:13 am

It ain't over. The judge still hasn't ruled on the sanctions.

Besides, like ed hale, leo has quit before.

we'll see.

aarrgghh · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:05 pm **Posts:** 1249

leo, ed hale, polarik, butterdeezee, miss tickly and others have written swan songs before. :-({|=

in fact i expected a number of "goodbye crewl wurl" posts after the arpaio dog and posse show, but i was also expecting arpaio to be a big birfer letdown. i don't think anyone expected ol' shurf to drop his drawers and go full birfer.

still, i think that unexpected hit of maricopa hooch only postponed the coming funk; despite being treated to heady doses of "definite forgery", "probable cause" and "person of interest", birfers now realize that their hero's not gonna do a damn thing about anything. so that brings us back to these half-baked ballot challenges that are getting tossed as fast as they're cooked up. there's no longer any milestones in sight so what have birfers got left beside melodrama?

Tarrant · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:05 pm **Posts:** 757

Quote:

There is no lawyer, politician or judge who will change the world into what God intended it to be – one family, one love. Angels are real. It’s gonna be a full on landing soon.

Yes, unfortunately Leo the judges tend to follow the law, and while politicians will happily dog whistle to racists, it's not politically expedient these days for one to say publicly that they want to return to White America.

So, alas for you, you'll just have to go away. That America is gone, and we are better for it.

everalm · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:52 am

Meeeeeh, he'll be back as soon as his latest attempts fails and he works out a new grift

ZekeB · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:01 am

Question for lawyers: Does he avoid any sanctions/costs if he resigns from the bar before the court assess any sanctions?

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:07 am

ZekeB wrote:

Question for lawyers: Does he avoid any sanctions/costs if he resigns from the bar before the court assess any sanctions?

Sometimes. In California there is a special category (of course): "Resignation with disciplinary charges pending." If the resigned Bar member seeks to be reinstated the bar charges are reconsidered first.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23548

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

ZekeB wrote:

Question for lawyers: Does he avoid any sanctions/costs if he resigns from the bar before the court assess any sanctions?

Sometimes. In California there is a special category (of course): "Resignation with disciplinary charges pending." If the resigned Bar member seeks to be reinstated the bar charges are reconsidered first.

Would costs and fees (which is what is being assessed in Old Carco, if the SDNY ever gets around to it) be considered "sanctions" ? The appeal court ruled he and The Pidge were to pay reasonable costs and fees and remanded to the SDNY to determine what those were.

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

Quote:

After long consideration and discussion with my family

Isn't Leo single?

SueDB · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:34 am

neonzx wrote:

Quote:

After long consideration and discussion with my family

Isn't Leo single?

Sybil???? Knock Knock, You in there??? Somewhere???

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:35 am

realist wrote:

Would costs and fees (which is what is being assessed in Old Carco, if the SDNY ever gets around to it) be considered "sanctions" ? The appeal court ruled he and The Pidge were to pay reasonable costs and fees and remanded to the SDNY to determine what those were.

In California, yes:

Quote:

Business & Professions Code §6086.7.
(a) A court shall notify the State Bar of any of the following:
(1) A final order of contempt imposed against an attorney that may involve grounds warranting discipline under this chapter. The court entering the final order shall transmit to the State Bar a copy of the relevant minutes, final order, and transcript, if one exists.
(2) Whenever a modification or reversal of a judgment in a judicial proceeding is based in whole or in part on the misconduct, incompetent representation, or willful misrepresentation of an attorney.
(3) The imposition of any judicial sanctions against an attorney, except sanctions for failure to make discovery or monetary sanctions of less than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
(4) The imposition of any civil penalty upon an attorney pursuant to Section 8620 of the Family Code.
(b) In the event of a notification made under subdivision (a) the court shall also notify the attorney involved that the matter has been referred to the State Bar.
(c) The State Bar shall investigate any matter reported under this section as to the appropriateness of initiating disciplinary action against the attorney.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:47 am

So he could leave the Pidge holding the bag? :lol:

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

I haven't been following the Old Carco case. Does anyone have a $ estimate on the 'costs and fees' they could be facing?

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9353

realist wrote:

Would costs and fees (which is what is being assessed in Old Carco, if the SDNY ever gets around to it) be considered "sanctions" ? The appeal court ruled he and The Pidge were to pay reasonable costs and fees and remanded to the SDNY to determine what those were.

Yes, but they aren't punitive sanctions as such. Purely punitive sanctions, often paid to the court instead of to a party, are intended to deter future misconduct. If a lawyer is no longer going to practice, no deterrent purpose is served by such sanctions. However, costs and fees are meant to compensate the wronged party for having to spend their money and time defending against a frivolous legal action. The wronged party is no less entitled to compensation because the frivolous litigator is no longer going to engage in frivolous litigation.

I would also take Leo's statement with a grain of salt because he has issued whiny-ass promises to FOAD repeatedly already, and has always turned up again like a bad penny.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:58 am

A Legal Lohengrin wrote:

I would also take Leo's statement with a grain of salt because he has issued whiny-ass promises to FOAD repeatedly already, and has always turned up again like a bad penny.

Exactly, this is at least the second time he has folded his tent. He is not up to Ed Hale or Brett Favre standards yet though.

bob · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:59 am

neonzx wrote:

I haven't been following the Old Carco case. Does anyone have a $ estimate on the 'costs and fees' they could be facing?

IIRC, opposing counsel submitted a bill of ~$120,000.

If costs are actually imposed, and Donofrio walks away from the partnership he formed with Pidgeon, Pidgeon would be on the hook for the entire amount, with the option to then go after Donofrio.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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