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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:38 pm 
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Haven't looked deeper yet, as I'm getting ready for the Arpaiopalooza. But here's a brand new Birther theory:

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html
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VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 2)

SHOCK AND ODD –Along with previous evidence proving the image of Obama’s alleged 1961 “Certificate of Live Birth” posted on the internet in April, 2011 was digitally fabricated, we reveal powerful new evidence which shows that data contained on the document contradicts Obama’s birth narrative and vital statistical accounting methods used at the alleged time of his birth. Vast disparities between the natal information appearing in the image and the standard methods used by federal and municipal governments to code, identify and report the contents of U.S. vital records prove that Obama’s alleged Hawaiian birth record was assembled to intentionally obscure the truth about his natal biography.

By Penbrook Johannson and Dan Crosby
of THE DAILY PEN

NEW YORK, NY – An intensive examination of the contents of Obama’s alleged 1961 “Certificate of Live Birth” image by the most respected experts in vital records accounting and identity investigation reveals that much of the contrived information about his alleged Hawaiian birth simply renders his Natural-born status impossible.

In cooperation with former members of the Social Security Administration’s Records and Claims Investigation office, along with information provided by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), this installment of our report reveals evidence, for the first time, which shows the content of Obama’s document image was hastily and recently manufactured by criminal counterfeiters secretly working in collaboration with both the White House and the municipal government of the State of Hawaii.

Most importantly, the actual data found in the document image reveals that Obama’s natal history is in direct, and even absurd, conflict with historical precedents defining citizenry, demographics and birth metrics as well as protocols governing vital statistics accounting while exposing epic deceptions on a scale never before seen in American political history.

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Haven't looked deeper yet, as I'm getting ready for the Arpaiopalooza. But here's a brand new Birther theory:

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html


The comments are cute. Polland/Polarik is now claiming the Nordyke twins certificates are forgeries too.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:44 pm 
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Epectitus wrote:
Haven't looked deeper yet, as I'm getting ready for the Arpaiopalooza. But here's a brand new Birther theory:

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html


The comments are cute. Polland/Polarik is now claiming the Nordyke twins certificates are forgeries too.

Didn't he claim that months ago when the WND August 23rd certificate came out? He also claimed Danae's was fake too.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:46 pm 
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That same article was up at ORYR this morning also. Too.

Interesting comments there as well. :lol:

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Epectitus wrote:
Haven't looked deeper yet, as I'm getting ready for the Arpaiopalooza. But here's a brand new Birther theory:

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html
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VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 2)



Sort of bumping this up cuz I want to remember to look at this later. :?:

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Epectitus wrote:
Haven't looked deeper yet, as I'm getting ready for the Arpaiopalooza. But here's a brand new Birther theory:

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html
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VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 2)



Lets look a the logic here.

He focuses on the pencilled in 6 next to the "Place of birth" field and completely ignore the part where it says Hawaii.

He then assumes that the 6 really is 56 which means “Remainder of the World”.

Therefore Obama must not have been born in Hawaii.

Makes sense right?

I notice that he has helpfully omitted the actual table that lists what these location numbers means, he does show them in other cases where it is "usefull" to his case.

What are the odds that either 06, 16, 26, 36 or 46 actually corresponds to Hawaii?


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fava wrote:
Epectitus wrote:
Haven't looked deeper yet, as I'm getting ready for the Arpaiopalooza. But here's a brand new Birther theory:

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html
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VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 2)



Lets look a the logic here.

He focuses on the pencilled in 6 next to the "Place of birth" field and completely ignore the part where it says Hawaii.

He then assumes that the 6 really is 56 which means “Remainder of the World”.

Therefore Obama must not have been born in Hawaii.

Makes sense right?

I notice that he has helpfully omitted the actual table that lists what these location numbers means, he does show them in other cases where it is "usefull" to his case.

What are the odds that either 06, 16, 26, 36 or 46 actually corresponds to Hawaii?



According to the Vital Statistics Information Manual, Geographic Reference Manual with data as of 1962 (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/Inman_gra.pdf) that he pulls from, page 205 shows a SMSA (Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area) code for Honolulu of 076. But it's so much more fun to just say "image if it's a 56, then he's a stateless usurper." Oddly enough that same manual doesn't say anything of any 56 state/country "location" code of any type, let alone that 56 = anywhere else in the world.


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States submitted data to the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) on punched cards (in the old days), magnetic tape or electronically. The penciled markings are codes for keypunch operators to enter when keying records.

I thought that I had written a detailed article on the numbers, but I can't seem to locate it. I actually made a FOIA request to DHHS for the 1961 keypunching manual, but they couldn't find it.

One of the documents useful in understanding National Center for Health Statistics coding is from the historical Inman FOIA response available here, which includes the Geographic codes manual used in NCHS reporting in 1961:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/Inman_IIa.pdf

We can decode a lot from the keying instructions for later time periods, such as this set of instructions from 1968
http://www.nber.org/natality/1968/Nat1968doc.pdf

What we don't have are the 1961 codes for Race, although based on decades of experience with vital records systems, code "9" probably means missing or not stated. I would judge that a mistake, but a one easily explained when presented with an outlier response like "African." Keep in mind that 1961 was the first year that Hawaii data appeared in NCHS statistics, and they were just getting started with the procedures.

The very presence of these pencil markings consistent with obscure NCHS practices screams authenticity to me except for one thing. (Sometimes I hate being honest.) According to Vital Statistics of the United States - Natality 1961 (
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf ), they only sent EVEN-NUMBERED certificates to the NCHS. So why was Obama's odd-numbered certificate coded? One obvious answer is that while they only reported even-numbered certificates, the state wanted a complete file for themselves.


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fava wrote:

He focuses on the pencilled in 6 next to the "Place of birth" field and completely ignore the part where it says Hawaii.

He then assumes that the 6 really is 56 which means “Remainder of the World”.



Polland is an idiot. The "6" is not the code for Obama's place of birth. It's a code assigned to an undisclosed data field on a different form layout on another page (or extension thereof).


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Both of the Nordyke certificates have the pencil codes written on them so the odd even conspiracy is easily debunked. (Susan's certificate number is 10637).

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Both of the Nordyke certificates have the pencil codes written on them so the odd even conspiracy is easily debunked. (Susan's certificate number is 10637).

have we used their theories on the nordyke markups?

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What we don't have are the 1961 codes for Race, although based on decades of experience with vital records systems, code "9" probably means missing or not stated. I would judge that a mistake, but a one easily explained when presented with an outlier response like "African." Keep in mind that 1961 was the first year that Hawaii data appeared in NCHS statistics, and they were just getting started with the procedures.

The very presence of these pencil markings consistent with obscure NCHS practices screams authenticity to me except for one thing. (Sometimes I hate being honest.) According to Vital Statistics of the United States - Natality 1961 (
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf ), they only sent EVEN-NUMBERED certificates to the NCHS. So why was Obama's odd-numbered certificate coded? One obvious answer is that while they only reported even-numbered certificates, the state wanted a complete file for themselves.


From the 1961 Natal report: "Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."" My guess is that's 1 white, 2 negro, ...9 other non-white.

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The very presence of these pencil markings consistent with obscure NCHS practices screams authenticity to me except for one thing. (Sometimes I hate being honest.) According to Vital Statistics of the United States - Natality 1961 (
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf ), they only sent EVEN-NUMBERED certificates to the NCHS. So why was Obama's odd-numbered certificate coded? One obvious answer is that while they only reported even-numbered certificates, the state wanted a complete file for themselves.

I had always assumed the pencil markings were not from any contemporaneous data process, but rather from the more recent exercise (1980's? '90's?) of entering all the legacy vital records into the first (or subsequent) computerized systems, and/or cross-checking the data entry. If so, then every 'original' long form would have similar pencil marks.


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I have the following HI LFBC:

Obama
Nordyke (2)
Alan
Coats, Edith

Are there others out there?

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The Johanna Ah'Nee heavily redacted one from WND.

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Weidlich? Or was that just a COLB?


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COLB only. The screen shot of it all over the Internet was taken by yours truly. ;)

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The Johanna Ah'Nee heavily redacted one from WND.


Image link, anyone?

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Image link, anyone?


Here you go. By the way the certificate number is odd and it has code numbers. ;)

http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2011/1 ... -the-foot/

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Image link, anyone?


Here you go. By the way the certificate number is odd and it has code numbers. ;)

http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2011/1 ... -the-foot/



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In cooperation with former members of the Social Security Administration’s Records and Claims Investigation office, along with information provided by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), this installment of our report reveals evidence, for the first time, which shows the content of Obama’s document image was hastily and recently manufactured by criminal counterfeiters secretly working in collaboration with both the White House and the municipal government of the State of Hawaii.


I am flabbergasted that the chump is claiming the State of Hawaii isn't capable of duplicating a document that they manufacture.

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Since this is now the Penbrook Johannson/Daniel Crosby thread..

Doctor Conspiracy has up a two part article(this is Part 2) on their latest bunch of hooey at the Daily Pen. Doc caught them red handed in a Photoshop job on a table from a report titled Vital Statistics of the United States – 1945 – Part II Natality and Mortality Data for the United States Tabulated by Place of Residence. You need to read the article to see the significance of what they did by altering a footnote in the table.

But, wait, it gets better. I posted a comment at the Daily Pen pointing out the deception and linked Doc's article. Penbrook Johannson thanked me and said they had corrected the "error". Doc then identified that Johannson had been commenting all along as a concern troll on Doc's article under the sock puppet name "Abracadabra". [-X

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Already posted over at the Potpourri thread with H/T Doc C and yor good self..... :hug:

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Thanks, I should have figured someone here would have noticed Doc's posts. Searching before posting is a good idea.

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I just got up off the floor laughing.....Birfers are Brain Dead....but that post was a hoot. They all need to be spayed and nuetered. NOW.


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