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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:52 am 
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Early voting in Michigan helped Rmoney. The SantorumGoogle it surge came late and without early voting might have swept him in from behind.

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Like many robo-calls, it is misleading: Santorum does not support the "auto bailouts" that saved General Motors and Chrysler.


Neither did Romney.

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I agree tolland. I would prefer that the Republican candidate be the one I am least freaked out over.


Santorum would never win the general. He's too crazy. I'm happy with the disruption going on.

Santorum lost reelection in Pennsylvania by 18 points.

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I agree tolland. I would prefer that the Republican candidate be the one I am least freaked out over.


Santorum would never win the general. He's too crazy. I'm happy with the disruption going on.

Santorum lost reelection in Pennsylvania by 18 points.


All kinds of things could happen between now and then, including a "lone nut." Santorum being anywhere near the White House is too much of a risk. He would destroy the country.

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A Legal Lohengrin wrote:

All kinds of things could happen between now and then, including a "lone nut." Santorum being anywhere near the White House is too much of a risk. He would destroy the country.


I believe a contingency plan is in place. The Dems have dozens of possible candidates who could beat Santorum,IMHO.

The numbers of voters who are taking part in these primaries are quite small and the publicity they are getting is far greater than their real weight or what they would be in a general election. In Michigan, there is no way to tell why a Democrat voted the way they did. Certainly, a significant number voted for the one who they thought would be easier for Obama to defeat. Hearing Santorum brag about 'attracting Democratic votes' was just another indicator of how clueless and ego-driven he is.

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Booman does not see last night as very significant. The big prise is Super Tuesday and how it would have efected the votes there, and frankly its not looking good for Romney. Nate Silver puts the chances of the big states like this

Georgia (76 delegates): Gingrich (86% chance of win)
Ohio (66 delegates): Santorum (78% chance of win)
Oklahoma (43 delegates): Santorum (96% chance of win)
Tennessee (58 delegates): Santorum (93% chance of win)
Virginia (49 delegates): Romney (94% chance of win)

Rimneys big hope was knocking out the rest of the field by super tuesday, and then turning his citizens united money on Obama. Now he is stuck focusing his fire on MrNewtron and Frothy for the forseeable future. Santa Crawls is a horrible candidate,. he makes me cringe looking at him, and the other is NEWT FREAKING GINGRITCH who already lost the mantle of Anyone but romney but somehow got it back.

The fact is if Romney cant win the south, the GP heartland then he is in trouble.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/2/29/105322/007

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Looking at the present situation, though, it doesn't look very good for Romney. Of the five biggest prizes on Super Tuesday, Romney stands to win just one of them, in a state (Virginia) where his two main rivals are not even on the ballot. He will enjoy the delegates he gains in New England, but he'll get no credit for them. And he'll probably come in third place in Georgia, which is the biggest prize of all. I can't predict how the delegates were be distributed without investigating each state's rules and doing more analysis, but if the states were based on winner take all, and Romney were to win all the small states, he'd win the night by about 223-167-76. That might seem good, but he has no guarantee of winning all the small states and he won't benefit from winner-take-all in all of them. It's more likely to be closer to a tie when the allocations are made. And then there is that calendar.

On March 10, Kansas votes, along with Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the Virgin Islands. If results so far in Colorado and Missouri are any indication, Santorum will win Kansas. I don't know that anyone really cares who wins the rest of these contests.

On March 13, Alabama, Mississippi, Hawai'i, and American Samoa vote. If results in South Carolina and the Florida panhandle, and polls in Georgia are any indication, Gingrich will win Alabama and Mississippi. Romney will probably win the pacific islands because nothing is less Polynesian than Rick Santorum's attitude. But, still, the big prizes will go to Gingrich.

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Then we get to the next really important contest. On March 20, Illinois votes. They have 69 delegates. Can Romney do what he failed to do in Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, and (most likely) Ohio? Can he win a big midwestern state where the trees aren't just the right height?


In my view. Gingrich is the weaker of the 3 simply because he has less money to burn away. Once the money runs out its over for him. I have no idea who is financing Santorum (I think we all could make some good guesses) But the fact is that sucess breeds money as you can go to donors and say that you are the guy thats winnong contests.

Romney has the advantage that he has a lot more money on hand and in the post citizens united era thats what counts. But he ha sburnt up a hell of a lot of money so far and so far he is just about batting even. How long before he is putting his own money on the line here? How long before his donors start drying up? Success breeds money and for the next few weeks the dalander is just not good for him.

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Like many robo-calls, it is misleading: Santorum does not support the "auto bailouts" that saved General Motors and Chrysler.


Neither did Romney.

The robo-call explicitly points out that Rmoney does not support the auto bailouts. It advocates voting for Santorum because of that, and it is grossly misleading because Santorum also opposes the auto bailouts. It is a prime example of how willing to lie are the candidates in this Republican campaign and how much the Party is trying to persuade American voters of something that is not true: a Republican President will be better for job creation. Their hunger to regain the presidency is unlimited and, because only Republicans are entitled to the presidency, permits them to do anything to get a Republican elected.

Robo-calls are quite cheap and are uncontrolled as to whether they are truthful. They are usually attack ads, not advocacy ads for a candidate's position. They can be placed on the day of the election, making it hard for the attacked candidate to respond. Some states have tried to clamp down on that form of robo-calling known as "push polls." They do not collect data; they push misinformation, usually greatly misleading information.

We can expect to see more of this kind of advertising no matter whether Rmoney, Santorum, or some White Knight is the Republican nominee. The Bush campaign even used it against McCain in the South Carolina primaries in 2000. I perceive that Democrats dislike trying to lie their way into power and are much less likely to spread misleading information. The truth "should" always prevail, except when it does not in an election in which the Republican candidate has no compunctions about lying. Think the "swiftboating" of John Kerry.

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I wouldn't worry about Rmoney running out of money or backers. He has a stable of Wall Street billionaires backing him. Gingrich just got another $5 million infusion from his Las Vegas casino billionaire sugar daddy. Santorum has Foster Friess as his billionaire backer.....you know him.....the one who recommended women used a Bayer aspirin between their knees as a cheap and reliable form of contraception.

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Chill. We got this!

Now you told everybody:
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We know that the elections are totally rigged. Today U.S. elections became one big puppet show. Between electronic voting machines and electronics ballot scanners, that can be rigged any way you want and Secretaries of States doing away with ID verifications, any elections where the margin of victory is 10% or less, can be easily rigged. Even with bigger margins election results are often questionable. So, we have to use all the tools we have in our arsenal. Election board and legal challenges are tools, are weapons, that we can’t abandon.

If anything, Romney or any other GOP nominee will be relying on us and our legal push to remove Obama feom office, not the other way around. That is why I am pushing on all fronts.
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You are 100% correct.The voting machines are already prepared to give Obama the victory.Why people cannot see this is beyoud my mind to grasp.It has been reported that the soft ware for voting machines is MFG by Hugo Chavez thugs.

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And you're surprized? :lol: :lol:

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Arthur Jones, congressional candidate from Illinois. Believes Obama is an illegal alien and the Holocaust never happened. From Raw Story a few snipped comments from campaign staffer identified as “Bill”

Edit: “Mr. Jones is the only candidate in the entire state of Illinois, apparently, that’s not afraid to stand up to the Israeli Lobby,” Bill explained. Adding that Jones was only running as a Republican because the Democratic Party was even worse.

“He can’t see himself in the same party with an illegal alien like Obama or a homosexual like Barney Frank or all these abortionists and all these people that want amnesty for illegal aliens.”

“We are suffering under the two-party, Jew-party, queer-party system.”


Apparently Jones is a former member of the National Socialist White People’s Party. Someone must be pushing over a lot of big rocks lately and letting idiots like this crawl out from under.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/29/a ... -happened/

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Newt: Rmoney would have fired Christopher Columbus. P.S. Only Newt has big ideas.



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Newt: Rmoney would have fired Christopher Columbus. P.S. Only Newt has big ideas.
see above...

Note: is Tiffany an Animatronics robot?


He does look like a little wind up doll that Tiffany can play with. Stepford Husbands???

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I noticed on the Birther Calendar that the Washington Caucuses are happening today.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... r-tuesday/

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I noticed on the Birther Calendar that the Washington Caucuses are happening today.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... r-tuesday/



Oh my, Not feeling up to going. Bad day (flare).

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Oh my, Not feeling up to going. Bad day (flare).

Sorry, Sue. Take care. And pet your kittehs...

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Arthur Jones, congressional candidate from Illinois. Believes Obama is an illegal alien and the Holocaust never happened. From Raw Story a few snipped comments from campaign staffer identified as “Bill”

Apparently Jones is a former member of the National Socialist White People’s Party. Someone must be pushing over a lot of big rocks lately and letting idiots like this crawl out from under.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/29/a ... -happened/

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Thanks, the kittehs help so much. The purring makes me feel much better. I will try to get something from the local party organization. Had to take a couple of pain pills, so I might get goofier as I go along. :)

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Arthur Jones, congressional candidate from Illinois. Believes Obama is an illegal alien and the Holocaust never happened. From Raw Story a few snipped comments from campaign staffer identified as “Bill”

Apparently Jones is a former member of the National Socialist White People’s Party. Someone must be pushing over a lot of big rocks lately and letting idiots like this crawl out from under.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/29/a ... -happened/

I hate Illinois Nazis

If somehow (not gonna happen) Arthur Jones won the Republican primary against Jim Falvey and Richard Grabowski; it would be hilarious (and effective) to see a campaign ad for Democratic Congressman Dan Lipinski with Dan Aykroyd saying those four words (highlighting mine).

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Santorum seems to be following the GOP 2012 pattern for rivals to Mitt. The jump into the lead then implode under the spotlight of media attention. Here is the latest RCP graph: (Mittens is purple and Santorum is brown. I think someone at RCP has a sense of humor.)

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Mitt Romney's Father Palled Around With Saul Alinsky

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The radical pioneer Saul Alinsky, who helped invent the practice of bottom-up politics through "community organizing" in the middle of the 20th century, has become a key bogeyman for Republican in the Obama era. Obama worked for Alinsky acolytes early in his career, and even contributed to an anthology titled "After Alinsky."

"Saul Alinsky radicalism is at the heart of Obama," Gingrich told CNN Sunday.

But Obama isn't the only candidate with one-degree-of-separation ties to Alinsky. In his biography of Romney's father, Michigan Governor George Romney, T. George Harris wrote in his book "Romney's Way" that the elder Romney and Alinsky met after the Detroit riots of 1967:

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"I think you ought to listen to Alinsky," Romney told his reluctant white friends. ‘It seems to me that we are always talking to the same people. Maybe the time has come to hear new voices." Said an Episcopal bishop, ‘He made Alinsky sound like a Republican.

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It seems Romney advised Obama to implement the health care mandate.

From a 2009 USAToday op-ed via Buzzfeed:

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Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar. Second, we helped pay for our new program by ending an old one — something government should do more often. The federal government sends an estimated $42 billion to hospitals that care for the poor: Use those funds instead to help the poor buy private insurance, as we did.


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