John Woodman Challenges Corsi and Company to a Debate

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:22 am

Foggy wrote:

What I'm beginning to suspect:

Either the group who's going to be there will see no hearing at all, or ...

... or we're going to see the hearing of all time in Birtherstan.

It's a pickle!

$\:D/$

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DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:36 am

Any post-game on the "debate?"

Slartibartfast · **Joined:** Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:52 pm **Posts:** 1551

DaveMuckey wrote:

Any post-game on the "debate?"

Woodman was on RC radio:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rcr/2012/0 ... rapup-show

jtmunkus · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 pm **Posts:** 3496

Slartibartfast wrote:

DaveMuckey wrote:

Any post-game on the "debate?"

Woodman was on RC radio:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rcr/2012/0 ... rapup-show

Woodman did a good job, despite his weak cell/speaker phone connection. Corsi came and bitched and moaned then hung up. Zebest was a petty teenager who kept just chiming in when someone else was berating Woodman. Denninger is a first-rate asshole. You couldn't hear Harrison, and he wasn't worth changing the volume for. Gillar pussed out on doing any real moderating. And Butterdezillion was there birfing.

And the whole thing was a discussion of the irrelevant .pdf.

Just what I expected.

I will hand it to Mr. Woodman; he keeps things collegial and professional, and is willing to take on the impossible task of opening the birthers up to even a smidgeon of common sense. A worthless cause, but anyway Woodman's got class.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:40 am

I am not sure what was removed but the archive file of the show on Gillar's Blog talk page is missing almost 50 minutes. Did anyone grab a recording of the full show?

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar ... ertificate

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23538

Reality Check wrote:

I am not sure what was removed but the archive file of the show on Gillar's Blog talk page is missing almost 50 minutes. Did anyone grab a recording of the full show?

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar ... ertificate

Gillar edited a show?

I'm shocked.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:45 am

Yeah I know. :sarcasm:

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

realist wrote:

Gillar edited a show?

I'm shocked.

Predicting his antics, you'll likely not be shocked to learn I recorded the "debate" live, pre-Gillar slice and dice.

I'll post it shortly.

Bob Ross · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:14 pm

neonzx wrote:

realist wrote:

Gillar edited a show?

I'm shocked.

Predicting his antics, you'll likely not be shocked to learn I recorded the "debate" live, pre-Gillar slice and dice.

I'll post it shortly.

Any idea what he cut out from what you've heard

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

Bob Ross wrote:

neonzx wrote:

realist wrote:

Gillar edited a show?

I'm shocked.

Predicting his antics, you'll likely not be shocked to learn I recorded the "debate" live, pre-Gillar slice and dice.

I'll post it shortly.

Any idea what he cut out from what you've heard

I've not listened to Gillar's chopped version, but I'm sure RC will compare and report once I get the original posted for him. 8-)

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

Missing the first ~15 minutes during the introductions. This starts while John's giving his opening comments.
(right-click, download)
http://theregulator.net/neonzx/extra/mark-gillar-debate-2012-01-21-22k.mp3

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

RC, I just downloaded from the blogtalk archive. It's the full 122 minute show. Did he put the original back or did you just get a bad download. :-?

Reality Check · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:39 pm

I will take a listen. I listened to first portion of the edited version up to around 45 minutes and nothing jumped out to me as missing. I was mostly interested to see if Gillar had removed the portion where Woodman nailed Corsi on the misquote of the Bennett article on vital records from 1955. That discussion seemed to be left in the edited version.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:14 pm

Whoops! Gillar now has the full show posted. I was comparing to that one. Fortunately, I saved the one that was up earlier [-X

Let's see what he was up to.

Edit: It appears the one that I downloaded this morning just chopped off the last 50 minutes of the show. I think the version on his page now is the complete show.

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

Reality Check wrote:

Whoops! Gillar now has the full show posted. I was comparing to that one. Fortunately, I saved the one that was up earlier [-X

Let's see what he was up to.

Edit: It appears the one that I downloaded this morning just chopped off the last 50 minutes of the show. I think the version on his page now is the complete show.

Yeah, that's kinda what I thought-- your download hiccuped. I guess we owe Mr. Gillar an apology for the slice-and-dice accusation. This time.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:05 pm

Yep, agreed.

bob · **Posted:** Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:27 pm

(Seems like the most on-topic.)

Woodman: Unveiled: The Birther-English Dictionary!

Quote:

In recent (and prolonged) conversations on the meaning of “natural born citizen” with birther “MichaelN,” and despite a good deal of patience on my part, I finally came to a point of some frustration. It just seemed as if Michael and I were speaking two different languages.

And then, all of a sudden, it hit me… that was it!

We were speaking two different languages!

This exciting discovery — that Birthers are a separate ethnolinguistic group with their own distinct language and terminology — is a linguistic breakthrough that promises to promote far, far greater understanding of the Birther movement and of Birther terminology. It also promises to greatly relieve the stress and frustration that many ordinary Americans encounter when attempting to converse with Birthers.

The reason this is such a frustration reliever is that — with a proper understanding of the meaning of Birther terms — statements that appear to normal people to be frustratingly and even obviously false (for example, that “Barack Obama is absolutely and undeniably not eligible to be President, because even though born in Honolulu, he is not a natural born citizen” or that “Obama’s birth certificate is clearly and indisputably a fake” ) are surprisingly revealed to be true after all. It’s all just a misunderstanding!

Hilarity at the link.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:14 am

John is going the way of :sarcasm:

:

Stanley Ann Dunham Obama’s Day Month Off

Quote:

Oh… yeah!!

Stanley Ann was soooo excited! At 18, she was going on her very first trip, all alone, as an adult. And it wasn’t just to the big island of Hawaii. It was to East Africa!

Her parents had been less than thrilled when she told them of her plans. “But honey,” her Dad had objected. “Just for the airfare alone, the cost of this trip is SIX MONTHS‘ worth of income… and that’s for ME! Where are you going to come up with all of that money?”

“Well, Dad…” she batted her eyelashes. “I thought you might help me. Just a little bit.”

“Well…” her Dad looked doubtful. “How much do you have so far towards the trip?”

“Eighteen dollars and ninety-three cents,” she replied proudly.

“Well, that’s a start. But honey –” her Mom interrupted. “You’re seven months pregnant. You’ll be close to nine months for this trip. Don’t you think you ought to stay a little closer to home?”
...

Epectitus · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:55 pm **Posts:** 2357

Reality Check wrote:

John is going the way of :sarcasm:

:

The inserted WND-style advertisement was my favorite:

Quote:

Get the inside details on what could be the most serious constitutional crisis in our nation’s history in “Slitted Eyes: The Case That Barack Obama is a Reptilian Alien Overlord From Alpha Draconis!”

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:45 pm

Epectitus wrote:

The inserted WND-style advertisement was my favorite:

Quote:

Get the inside details on what could be the most serious constitutional crisis in our nation’s history in “Slitted Eyes: The Case That Barack Obama is a Reptilian Alien Overlord From Alpha Draconis!”

All the ads were great!

kate520 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:51 pm

By George, he's got it! There was never any there there but he kept trying to play there.

jtmunkus · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 pm **Posts:** 3496

Maybe by November, Woodman finally will be convinced to vote for Barack Obama.

[-o<

gsgs · **Posted:** Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:58 pm

see some recent discussion here:
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www ... mment-2863

i.e. about the Denninger-claim
I made a pic here:
http://magictour.free.fr/dennin3.JPG

kate520 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:06 pm

gsgs, I still dont understand why people demand, as the birthers do, that the President respond AT ALL to this manufactured controversy. You may think it odd that he says he has more important things to do, but why is that odd?

It's as if I claimed, in Der Speigel, that your wife is blue. You may trot out a photo that shows that she is not, but of course I scream "Photoshopped!" and continue to accuse.

You have friends, family, doctors, all sign affidavits stating she is not blue. But I am adamant that because the affidavits didn't declare what color she is, if not blue, they are meaningless, so I continue my campaign.

You bring her out in public...I scream "she's covered in makeup!"

By now, you are frustrated and fuming, and I'm just getting started. You give up, I continue.

See where I'm going with this?

Why should he respond AT ALL to something they made up out of thin air just because they don't like him?

He has more important things to do and he'd never convince them, anyway.

chancery · **Joined:** Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:51 pm **Posts:** 192

That's funny. She doesn't _look_ bluish ....

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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