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The meeting I refer to above took place Aug 17 2011.

From WND:

On Sept 16 Corsi wrote:
In addition to the letter, the Surprise Tea Party delivered to Arpaio a petition with 242 signatures that were obtained at the Aug. 17 meeting.

The group also gave to Arpaio a binder containing the published reports of 20 experts with established credentials who conducted a forensic examination of the computer PDF file published on the White House website and the photocopies of the Obama birth certificate handed out by the White House to the press during the April 27 press conference.

In that meeting Corsi referred to:
On Aug 17 Corsi wrote:
Every single one of the 20 experts that we presented in WND wrote to me first ... said I want to show you why the document's a forgery ...

So...

Aug 17 -- Corsi solicits signatures on a petition he (probably) wrote, with a 75-minute presentation on Obama's fraudulent life history with materials out of "Where's the Birth Certificate," and a sampling of his then best forgery theories about the LFBC.

-- In that same session, Corsi provides evidence from 20 "experts" as to the "fake" birth certificate.

Aug 18 2011 -- Tea Party leaders AND Corsi:
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...presented the sheriff with a petition that was drafted after a speech :^o by Corsi the previous night... (link)

Sept 16 2011 -- Arpaio agrees to commission the Cold Case Posse, and Corsi "reports" on it (the quote at the top of this post) as if he himself had nothing to do with it.


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When do you think they will mention that every digitized image downloaded from the internet and opened with Adobe Illustrator will appear to have layers ? Layers are not caused by a forger creating a fraudulent document, they are caused by reading a digitized image downloaded and opened with Adobe Illustrator.
Every Single Time. Every Single Image.


Bears repeating.....

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Obama Conspiracy Theories Blog launches investigation into Sheriff Joe’s “Cold Case Posse”
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/03/ ... ase-posse/

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Ooo he just claimed credit for all of Orly’s work.

She’s gonna be pissed.

The press is picking him apart!


I might have to listen to the whole meshugana again, because it seems to me that at the presser they avoided presenting anything initiated by Taitz. Despite her belief that the SSN will be brought up "next time", it wasn't mentioned this time. The "experts" are all in the Corsi/WND wolf pack. The Selective Service argument is not the one Taitz is currently pimping and doesn't appear to be based on the documents she unearthed herself or through Hollister. I don't recall where the date stamp thing comes from, but I don't think it was from Taitz.

No, I sense that the WND-owned posse purposely avoided any association with Taitz, other than sharing her birther mindset.

But I haven't seen the whole report and I could be misremembering what I have seen.

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OK -- here's the masterpiece. http://www.thefogbow.com/arpaio-report/

Need: Edits and additions. Comments. Thanks!

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OK -- here's the masterpiece. http://www.thefogbow.com/arpaio-report/

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Looks great so far :-bd

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Whatever4 wrote:
OK -- here's the masterpiece. http://www.thefogbow.com/arpaio-report/

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Bravo!

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Joe Miller... yeah that Joe Miller... tweeted out link to his blog where he posts:

Andrew Breitbart’s Last Interview Was With Sheriff Joe Arpaio About Obama Eligibility

http://joemiller.us/2012/03/breaking-ne ... igibility/

You get a link to Western Journalism where they post a 1.5 minute YouTube of the portion of the Sheriff Joe Birfalooza where Corsi sez:



haha! Use Breitbart!

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The lead investigator isn't even a former Arizona police officer. Mike Zullo is a retired New Jersey detective.


I found it hard to concentrate on his 'findings' due to his facial profile being such a close resemblance to that of a large rat. :-?

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... nvestigate

If you can stand more, it's a TPM link to a radio show with SHURF.HO.

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Whatever4 wrote:
OK -- here's the masterpiece. http://www.thefogbow.com/arpaio-report/

Need: Edits and additions. Comments. Thanks!


Bravo!


=D> :-bd :hug:

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nycpeter wrote:
Outstanding! =D>

Maybe an introduction to what the Fogbow would help new readers, and if it's possible, having a strong serif font and a good type size and spacing will help differentiate the credibility of this report with most of the garbage being posted by birfers. Posted this a few nights ago and I'm sure there are much better ways to say it but it gives Fogbow deserved credit and contact info along with a bit of intro to birfistan:



Pick me out a good font and size?

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I was thinking Arpaio didn't go to Georgia because he knew he'd be committing perjury. He's already in hot water with the Feds so why add to his problems? This way he didn't have to tell the truth. It wasn't a court so he could allege away. I sure hope HI figures out a way to wallop him.

I read comments on Phoenix blogger sites that said: Joe had done a lot for Maricopa Co. in the past. Now he's on one big power trip. They felt they could no longer support someone, who, they believed, had gone over the edge. I found that remark particularly encouraging.

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nycpeter wrote:
Outstanding! =D>

Maybe an introduction to what the Fogbow would help new readers.


Hmmm... will work on that tomorrow. I think I have one somewhere.

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I found it hard to concentrate on his 'findings' due to his facial profile being such a close resemblance to that of a large rat. :-?


I actually thought for a while that Mike Zullo was actually Joseph Farah.

Which doesn't rule out the large rat either.

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NPR weighs in -
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... t=1&f=1001

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Arpaio and his lead investigator Mike Zullo posted five videos, explaining their investigation. You can find them at the site of the Western Center for Journalism, but essentially the argument they're making is that the date stamp and the registrar's stamp on Obama's long-form birth certificate were imported from somewhere else. Their proof for that claim? They said the stamps were on different layers on the document and could be moved freely when opened in editing software.

For the record, we opened the file using Adobe Photoshop and found that it contained only a single layer of information.

Zullo makes a similar argument about Obama's selective registration card. This time, he insinuates that the year 1980 in the postmark has been tampered with. He says that since there were no 1980 stamps available currently someone cut a 2008 to show 08 and then flipped it to say 80.

(We wondered, being that the White House is so powerful, if they couldn't just order a custom-made 1980 stamp.)


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Whatever4 wrote:
OK -- here's the masterpiece. http://www.thefogbow.com/arpaio-report/

Need: Edits and additions. Comments. Thanks!



eggselent job....Thanks.

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HAHAHA ......SO ALL THIS CHARADE WAS BECAUSE CORSI WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WITH "AUTHORITY" TO PEDDLE HIS FAILED BOOK?
Here is the PROOF!!!!!

"“It’s been an amazing journey unraveling this story against all odds,”
said Joseph Farah, founder of WND and WND Books, which published both
the best-selling hardcover and the e-book followup. “Most all the
details of the fraudulent birth certificate are in these books. Arpaio’s
team has done an amazing public service corroborating what Corsi and
the WND team found long ago against all odds.” :-({|= :-({|= :-({|= :-({|= :-({|=

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe- ... -of-worms/


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ADDENDUM:
"WND's Jerome Corsi instigated Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio's "cold case posse" investigation of birther claims. Are Corsi and WND also trying to buy a favorable result by writing fawning articles about Arpaio and even erasing him from a story about a lawsuit against his department?" :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Corsi was apparently the first to line up and testify; a Nov. 1 article stated that Corsi "spent 18 hours over a two-day period in Arizona briefing the Cold Case Posse on a wide range of evidence regarding Obama’s eligibility."

"Curiously, neither Corsi nor WND has offered any evidence that anyone other than birther conspiracists like Corsi has testified before the posse. That suggests any result the posse returns will be skewed from a refusal to examine all of the evidence."

"That, however, may be exactly what Corsi and WND wants -- and they're doing everything they can to ensure that result." :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Corsi and WND's coverage of Arpaio and the investigation has been so fawning and biased that it appears to be an effort to guarantee that the probe generates a result favorable to Corsi and unfavorable to Obama -- in other words, a form of bribery

In short: WND has done its best to buy its preferred result from Arpaio and his "cold case posse." The only question is whether anyone can explain why that's not attempted bribery.

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2 ... rpaio.html


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Phoenix New Times: Obama Birth Certificate "Report" Released by Joe Arpaio is Actually Eight Months Old
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We actually looked at the report given out today during Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's announcement that he believes President Obama's birth certificate is a forgery, and there is a grand total of zero new information in it.

In fact, the report prepared by Mara Zebest -- who was at the press conference today -- is a rewritten version of a report she released in June.

[...]

Most of the points in the report have already been used by others and unsurprisingly debunked, but one guy[*] actually debunked her entire report point-for-point

* "One guy" is Epectitus. :banana:

And from the NT comments:
John Woodman wrote:
I think it's perceptive to notice that their points are 8 months old. I personally authored a book, released 6 months ago, which also debunked every single point raised in regard to the birth certificate itself.

I contacted the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office last fall, urged them to read the book, and offered to answer any questions they might have. They stated that they interviewed dozens of people.I was not among them.

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Motivation? Motivation? You have no motiviation?? :^o You mean like you telling the DOJ you'd drop this investigation if they'd drop their investigations and grand jury submissions against you a few weeks ago? [-X


I missed this - was this something in the news? (Not doubting, just curious)

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The Fogbow Crowdsourced Unofficial Transcript of the Arpaio-WND circle-jerk and sedition festival is now available on Scribd.

Thanks go out to Great Grey, Whatever4, listeme, and anyone else who helped out but may have accidentally been left out of this list. Feel free to pm me with corrections. I'll try to get to those tomorrow sometime. As usual, Jack Ryan and our other members should feel free to include copies in their archives.

Usual disclaimers apply - this is not an official transcript, it wasn't prepared by skilled workers, use at own risk, may contain nuts, etc.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/83474057/Arpa ... t-1-MAR-12

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now someone has to explain me this:

why are there so many ITALIANS in the birfer circus:

APUZZO, ARPAIO (the harp maker in Italian), D'ONOFRIO, etc ?

do they want to prove themselves REAL AMERICANS after having sufered prejudice for over 100 years ?
is it next to last (in reverse order of arrival) immigrants complex ?
is it some lingering fascist nostalgia ?

AS A MAN OF ITALIAN ORIGIN I WOULD LIKE TO LET THEM KNOW:

you are a disgrace to our community

wait wait....

since he is himself not a VATTEL pursuant NBC (both parents born in Italy) he CANNOT accept the inferior BLACK MAN being above him

ARPAIO IS A RACIST


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