A few days late in catching up with this fast evolving discussion (over 1000 posts to start with, and about half of them still to come):
Balak » 24.02.2012 wrote:
Nor did I see any particular discourse by the panel addressing the merits of the "evidence." If you believe a judicial system, or even executive hearing panels, should operated on the "You're Birthers, you automatically lose!" method, then have at. I prefer, "You're Birthers, your evidence sucks, here's why your evidence sucks, and here's why you are being assessed costs and and why your attorney is being sanctioned."
Picking up on this your second marked quote above, first:
At the very beginning of the hearing of the objections of the first guy (Kessler?, seated left of Orly), the commission explained to Orly why her "evidence" was not considered evidence, eg nothing was certified in a correct manner. IOW nothing that Orly offered was representing "original matter". It was all hearsay. Take the Indonesian stuff as example, Orly never visited the school herself and had some Indonesian official confirming that a copy of whatever came directly from the schools administrative books. Also all Orly had to offer was affidavits from witnesses at the Georgia hearing (not a trial!). What Orly would need is the final ruling of a judge over a criminal or civil case, and handing in a certified copy of said ruling as real evidence.
As for the first highlighted quote of yours above, the Election Commission would have discussed the merits, had Orly given them some meat on the bone, eg certified documents. Without those there was nothing that merited a discussion.
The great failing of Orly is in general that she does not see that election commissions have no power to determine the truth of matter, this is all up to judges of the judicial branch working on either criminal or civil cases.