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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:52 am 
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So, my questions to Haskins on ORYR didn't survive moderation but my little essay regarding Orly's support for convicted felon Charlie White was printed in full.

Does anyone else think that old Bob Nelson was "disappeared" after his worldwide fact finding tour? It looks to me like Haskins is running the joint now.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:35 am 
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Ed Hale sez "don't post no Haskins stuff else I be deleting em".
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/ ... 8&cmd=show

So what happens, he gets a forum full.

I didn't do it :)

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During his absence for the time of the alleged "trip" the ORYR website was run by Gary Wilmott, who runs two other birther websites, http://onenationunderfraud.blogspot.com/ and http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/.

Gary is a busy boy. Perhaps he has teamed up with Haskins, Ciavolino, Tansey, and doGonlyknowswhoelse. I would suspect them of working with Corsi but Jerome is only pimping Sheriff Joe's Big Important Press Conference and I don't see the Haskins-Ciavolino-Tansey group doing much to help publicize that enormously important event.

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Ed Hale sez "don't post no Haskins stuff else I be deleting em".
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/ ... 8&cmd=show

So what happens, he gets a forum full.

I didn't do it :)

Damned meanie still has me blocked! :roll:

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So Deano still hasn't replaced the "Members" page on his web site.

He told me he disabled it because there were some people who were not comfortable with his attacks on Orly.

But what it looks like is there are no members, like they have no one coming to speak.

There is nothing there compelling people to send money.

I think he's given up on it. If he ever really planned to have it in the first place.

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as for Haskins, heres a multiple choice on his Hawaii trip

Dean Haskin’s Hawaii trip failed because:
1. Obama’s name is not Virginia Sunahara
2. Virginia Sunahara has a different BC number
3. Miki Booth forgot her makeup
4. Judge laughed out load
5. Primo beer is made by Bud (original is gone)
6. no one could cash that big check (banks refused)
7. all of the above


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I guess we an close this topic. Indefinitely postponed according to Haskins

http://www.birthersummit.org/news/87-im ... ummit.html

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Based upon multiple factors, Vattelevision, LLC, the parent company of The Birther Summit, has postponed, indefinitely, its planned event in Washington, DC.

In early July 2011, the idea for a gathering of eligibility movement leaders, as well as a public rally and protest march, were borne of a letter written to S.C. Senator Lindsey Graham, and a subsequent article detailing it. The initial ideas were assembled into what became our website, and we set out to promote the event and enlist participants.

Also in July, an extensive analysis was done to determine what it would take, financially and logistically, for an event like this to have any chance at success; and, the overall capital required was estimated to be in the neighborhood of $800,000. Of course, that figure included all the expenses related to bringing in and putting up the participating leaders of the movement for the first-day working conference, producing a large rally the next day (at least 15,000 attendees), and also marketing the event to the general public.



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Based upon multiple factors, Vattelevision, LLC, the parent company of The Birther Summit, has postponed, indefinitely, its planned event in Washington, DC.

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Also in July, an extensive analysis was done to determine what it would take, financially and logistically, for an event like this to have any chance at success; and, the overall capital required was estimated to be in the neighborhood of $800,000. Of course, that figure included all the expenses related to bringing in and putting up the participating leaders of the movement for the first-day working conference, producing a large rally the next day (at least 15,000 attendees), and also marketing the event to the general public.

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We decided on a partial funding of the event through a registration fee, which would result in many of the event's costs being covered by several people pitching in small amounts financially. While there have been relatively few donations and registrations, we underwrote the expenses of market research, telemarketing, and presentations to targeted individuals to enlist their aid. So far, we have expended far more financial resources in those efforts than we have taken in. The present apparent support does not match the resources necessary to try to hold the event at this time.

Additionally, we have observed other calls for mass gatherings and demonstrations, and have had to accept the fact that, barring some major event occurring, levels of apathy about issues such as ours seem nearly impossible to overcome. It is far easier to air one's complaints via computer keyboard than it is to leave the comfort of one's home and actually make a physical effort. Past participation in such calls for mass gatherings have been highly embarrassing, and that is certainly not an indictment of the individuals who planned them. Our nation is likely on a crash-course toward extinction simply because of the apathy of our citizenry toward doing anything beyond “talking tough” on the Internet.


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We decided on a partial funding of the event through a registration fee, which would result in many of the event's costs being covered by several people pitching in small amounts financially. While there have been relatively few donations and registrations, we underwrote the expenses of market research, telemarketing, and presentations to targeted individuals to enlist their aid. So far, we have expended far more financial resources in those efforts than we have taken in.The present apparent support does not match the resources necessary to try to hold the event at this time.


So even though this "event" will never be held, we spent your money and nunnaya are getting a refund. :lol:

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Moreover, our message is currently nowhere near cohesive, as disinformation and incompetence are still driving people to believe things that are simply not true, and the gullible few who swallow the spin don't even realize that it is unethically being used to elicit funding. Even though the truth has been explained at length, there are still folks who view themselves as being part of our team, and yet cling to demonstrably false notions about things like the laws that apply to birth certificates in general, and in Hawaii specifically.

That is largely due to a steady stream of incompetence that continues to flow from one who some still regard as possessing any knowledge of the law and legal procedure. Anytime we come across one who speaks of things like “access to the 'original' or 'vault copy' of Obama's birth certificate,” or such absurdities as a state court on the mainland having jurisdictional authority to force Hawaii to break its laws regarding vital statistics records, we must recognize such a person as being complacent in his ignorance of the law (much like the glory hound he likely supports).

[mm]We have concluded that providing a venue for those who still seem to support the one who is arguably the worst attorney ever, would not only be a disservice to our country, but it could be considered irresponsible, as a gathering of such people might actually constitute a public danger—for anyone who could still be supporting such an aberration cannot be believed to be mentally or emotionally stable.[/mm]


http://www.birthersummit.org/news/87-important-announcement-from-the-birther-summit.html

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That is largely due to a steady stream of incompetence that continues to flow from one who some still regard as possessing any knowledge of the law and legal procedure. Anytime we come across one who speaks of things like “access to the 'original' or 'vault copy' of Obama's birth certificate,” or such absurdities as a state court on the mainland having jurisdictional authority to force Hawaii to break its laws regarding vital statistics records, we must recognize such a person as being complacent in his ignorance of the law (much like the glory hound he likely supports).

We have concluded that providing a venue for those who still seem to support the one who is arguably the worst attorney ever, would not only be a disservice to our country, but it could be considered irresponsible, as a gathering of such people might actually constitute a public danger—for anyone who could still be supporting such an aberration cannot be believed to be mentally or emotionally stable.



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I guess we an close this topic. Indefinitely postponed according to Haskins

http://www.birthersummit.org/news/87-im ... ummit.html

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Based upon multiple factors, Vattelevision, LLC, the parent company of The Birther Summit, has postponed, indefinitely, its planned event in Washington, DC.


What a shocker. I believe it was on the very first page of this thread that we predicted this scam artist would never do anything with this bogus "Summit" other than use it to swindle money out of people, then cancel it.

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hat is largely due to a steady stream of incompetence that continues to flow from one who some still regard as possessing any knowledge of the law and legal procedure. Anytime we come across one who speaks of things like “access to the 'original' or 'vault copy' of Obama's birth certificate,” or such absurdities as a state court on the mainland having jurisdictional authority to force Hawaii to break its laws regarding vital statistics records, we must recognize such a person as being complacent in his ignorance of the law (much like the glory hound he likely supports).


Anyone know who he's referring to?

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...Of course, that figure included all the expenses related to bringing in and putting up the participating leaders of the movement for the first-day working conference, ...
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Although I know what Haskins means, the first thing that occurred to me was "putting up" jars of peaches and similar home canning processes. My grandmother used to put up such a quantity and variety of things that I think the family could have survived on the contents of her pantry for about a year. If Haskins had been thinking of putting up "the leaders of the movement" in that manner, I'd be willing to donate money. It would require a number of Apuzzo-sized jars and might be expensive.

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We should all observe a moment of laughter to memorialize the passing of the dumbit. =))

The real question now is who had February in the dumbit FAIL pool...

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We decided on a partial funding of the event through a registration fee, which would result in many of the event's costs being covered by several people pitching in small amounts financially. While there have been relatively few donations and registrations, we underwrote the expenses of market research, telemarketing, and presentations to targeted individuals to enlist their aid. So far, we have expended far more financial resources in those efforts than we have taken in.The present apparent support does not match the resources necessary to try to hold the event at this time.


So even though this "event" will never be held, we spent your money and nunnaya are getting a refund. :lol:


I'm shocked, shocked to find that there will be no summit and no refunds.

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Bob Ross wrote:
I guess we an close this topic. Indefinitely postponed according to Haskins

http://www.birthersummit.org/news/87-im ... ummit.html

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Based upon multiple factors, Vattelevision, LLC, the parent company of The Birther Summit, has postponed, indefinitely, its planned event in Washington, DC.


What a shocker. I believe it was on the very first page of this thread that we predicted this scam artist would never do anything with this bogus "Summit" other than use it to swindle money out of people, then cancel it.



I went with scam....and grift.

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Past participation in such calls for mass gatherings have been highly embarrassing, and that is certainly not an indictment of the individuals who planned them.

Yup, the Usurpathon failed but that wasn't Dr. K(h)ate's fault.

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Can't wait to see Orly's reaction, both to the cancellation and to the ongoing :twoup:

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I suppose it's apt, in an odd way.

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I suppose it's apt, in an odd way.


You must not have your profile set as a "Birther Engager". I will copy it over.

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