Maryland Ballot Challenge (Tracy Fair)

rosy · **Joined:** Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:36 pm **Posts:** 720

It's my fault for being unclear; I meant that Orly's commas have mutated into Tracy's grocers' apostrophes.

MaineSkeptic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grocer%27s ... postrophes I am one of those people who write to supermarkets and other places complaining about misplaced apostrophes, checkout lanes marked 10 items or less :((

and spelling errors. It's true, I have no life.

majorbabs · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:30 pm

rosy wrote:

It's my fault for being unclear; I meant that Orly's commas have mutated into Tracy's grocers' apostrophes.

MaineSkeptic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grocer%27s ... postrophes I am one of those people who write to supermarkets and other places complaining about misplaced apostrophes, checkout lanes marked 10 items or less :((

and spelling errors. It's true, I have no life.

Hey, I follow birthers so it could be worse. =))

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:00 pm

rosy wrote:

It's my fault for being unclear; I meant that Orly's commas have mutated into Tracy's grocers' apostrophes.

MaineSkeptic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grocer%27s ... postrophes I am one of those people who write to supermarkets and other places complaining about misplaced apostrophes, checkout lanes marked 10 items or less :((

and spelling errors. It's true, I have no life.

Offtopic :

There was a sign at one of my local grocery stores advertising "half fresh pork picnics" I said to the clerk as I checked out, "you might want to change that sign" and she said to me "why what is wrong with it?" ](*,)

justlw · **Joined:** Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:04 pm **Posts:** 18

MaineSkeptic wrote:

rosy wrote:

Quote:

I have since talked to several attorney’s and was recently referred to an attorney...

Orly's commas are mutating into grocers' apostrophes. :evil:

New one for me, and I like it!

$\:D/$

In one of the Discworld books (Maskerade?), one of the characters is a greengrocer, who of cour'se ha's apo'strophe's 'scattered through everything he 'say's.

(Just something to get that "new lurker" smell off of me... .)

Butterfly Bilderberg · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:00 am

Welcome, former lurkers! Jump right into the conversation! :hug:

majorbabs · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:23 am

Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:

Welcome, former lurkers! Jump right into the conversation! :hug:

^^^^ Glad you decided to jump into the fray. :hug:

Chilidog · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm **Posts:** 1964

Quote:

In one of the Discworld books (Maskerade?), one of the characters is a greengrocer, who of cour'se ha's apo'strophe's 'scattered through everything he 'say's.

(Just something to get that "new lurker" smell off of me... .)

Offtopic :

I watched a rerun of Steinfeld the other day where Jerry goes into a grocery selling "plumbs."

nbc · **Joined:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:38 am **Posts:** 2530

Dr Conspiracy observes that the complaint cites § 9-209 but

Quote:

Md. Code (2002), § 9-209 of the Election Law Article. The errors subject to judicial review under Section 9-209, whether arising from the content and arrangement of the ballot or other facial aspects of the ballot, are confined to the various characteristics of the ballot, not the qualifications or lack thereof of the candidates.

Source: Ross v. State Board of Elections 876 A. 2d 692, 387 Md. 649 - Md: Court of Appeals, 2005

So Tracy... Can you enlighten us? Did you file under 9-209?

Butterfly Bilderberg · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:26 pm

Maryland Election Code § 8-502, in relevant part:

Quote:

(a) This section applies to the placement on the ballot in the primary election of the names of individuals who are candidates for nomination by principal political parties to the office of President of the United States.

(b) An individual who desires to run in the primary election may be placed on the ballot only:

(1) by direction of the Secretary of State in accordance with subsection (c) of this section; or

(2) by filing, in accordance with subsection (d) of this section, a petition containing the signatures of at least 400 registered voters from each congressional district in the State.

(c) (1) (i) Except as provided in subparagraph (ii) of this paragraph, the Secretary of State shall certify to the State Board the names of candidates for nomination by a principal political party during the period beginning 90 days before the primary election and ending 80 days before the primary election.

(ii) The Secretary of State shall certify to the State Board the names of candidates for the Democratic Party nomination on the first business day in the year of the election.

(2) The Secretary of State shall certify the name of a presidential candidate on the ballot when the Secretary has determined, in the Secretary's sole discretion and consistent with party rules, that the candidate's candidacy is generally advocated or recognized in the news media throughout the United States or in Maryland, unless the candidate executes and files with the Secretary of State an affidavit stating without qualification that the candidate is not and does not intend to become a candidate for the office in the Maryland primary election.

The election in November is for Presidential electors.

Quote:

§ 8-503.

(a) Each political party shall nominate or provide for the nomination of candidates for presidential elector of the party in accordance with party rules.

(b) The number of candidates nominated by each political party shall be the number that this State is entitled to elect.

(c) (1) The names of individuals nominated as candidates for presidential elector by a political party shall be certified to the State Board by the presiding officers of the political party.

(2) The names of individuals nominated as candidates for presidential elector by a candidate for President of the United States who is nominated by petition shall be certified to the State Board by the candidate on a form prescribed by the State Board.

(3) The electors shall be certified to the State Board at least 30 days before the general election.

The Maryland Presidential Primary is April 3. Early voting begins March 24. Tick tock.

Attachment:

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TollandRCR · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:38 pm

rosy wrote:

It's my fault for being unclear; I meant that Orly's commas have mutated into Tracy's grocers' apostrophes.

MaineSkeptic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grocer%27s ... postrophes I am one of those people who write to supermarkets and other places complaining about misplaced apostrophes, checkout lanes marked 10 items or less :((

and spelling errors. It's true, I have no life.

Could one of you take over policing "it's-its" for me? Ever since the New York Times made the error, I've had little hope of rescuing this aberration in the English language.

Mikedunford · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:31 am

justlw wrote:

In one of the Discworld books (Maskerade?), one of the characters is a greengrocer, who of cour'se ha's apo'strophe's 'scattered through everything he 'say's.

(Just something to get that "new lurker" smell off of me... .)

Offtopic :

Going Postal, I believe.

And fair warning - I'm not positive, but it's possible that Sterngard is a cleverly disguised Mr. Slant.

Slartibartfast · **Joined:** Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:52 pm **Posts:** 1551

Mikedunford wrote:

Offtopic :

Going Postal, I believe.

And fair warning - I'm not positive, but it's possible that Sterngard is a cleverly disguised Mr. Slant.

Offtopic :

ducktape · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:12 am

TollandRCR wrote:

Could one of you take over policing "it's-its" for me? Ever since the New York Times made the error, I've had little hope of rescuing this aberration in the English language.

It's (contraction) worse than that, Tolland. I often use my iPad, and its (possessive) auto-correct keeps inserting apostrophes whenever I type "i t s" without regard (or knowledge) of its (possessive) context.

It's very frustrating! Especially because my mama was a card-carrying member of the grammar and spelling police, descended from her mother and grandmother who also were, and the fruit hasn't fallen far from the tree.

justlw · **Joined:** Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:04 pm **Posts:** 18

Mikedunford wrote:

Offtopic :

And fair warning - I'm not positive, but it's possible that Sterngard is a cleverly disguised Mr. Slant.

Offtopic :

I'm afraid I'll need proof. Where's the LFDC?

Somerset · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:06 am

rosy wrote:

It's my fault for being unclear; I meant that Orly's commas have mutated into Tracy's grocers' apostrophes.

MaineSkeptic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grocer%27s ... postrophes I am one of those people who write to supermarkets and other places complaining about misplaced apostrophes, checkout lanes marked 10 items or less :((

and spelling errors. It's true, I have no life.

Offtopic :

Interesting link. Thanks! I'll be sharing it with my grammar nazi daughter

Being a grammar nazi here is totally out of the question. It would drive anyone crazy. I got a t-shirt as a reviewer for a food blog here (hungrygowhere.com) that proudly says, "I CAME, I ATE, I GRADE." I asked the lady who gave it to me if she saw anything wrong with the language, and she said, "No, lah. Funny saying from old Rome. Can't you speak English, lah?" I smiled and left (and at some great food

)

Here's another example

http://english.stomp.com.sg/stomp/engli ... that_sign/

As an aside, we have a Language Geekery thread.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23532

!	realist wrote:
	Here' a neat little thread in which to continue the apostrophy and comma discussion. viewtopic.php?f=58&t=6502&hilit=LANGUAGE+GEEKERY

DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:35 pm

Tracy was on a roll this morning in the wee hours.

Quote:

Tracy says:
“A native citizen is just one born here on US soil who became a citizen by either having 2 citizen parents or being here to immigrants and later naturalized.”

The Kilted One responds:
One would get laughed out of any law office in the land if they were to seek Naturalization if they had been born here. But, I’m sure that by morning you can come up with some names for us to explore.

Later...:
Tracy:
Yo Muckey, skirt boy, how do you think the immigrants feel, the ones that come over and renounce all former allegiances, to acquire full allegiance to America? How do you think they feel that someone can be born here to immigrants with no allegiance and be considered a citizen with NO ALLEGIANCE WHATSOEVER?

You are so wrong and you know it!

[NBC: The child born here is born with full allegiance and under full jurisdiction of our Nation. Why should we take away his birthright just because you believe it would offend immigrants? Immigrants have to swear an oath of allegiance, although in many cases, they can still maintain second allegiance, just like our President was initially burdened by statutory citizenship in addition to his natural birth right citizenship. You are under the foolish opinion that a child born on US soil is somehow not born owing full allegiance to the United States. Allegiance and protection, they go hand in hand. Can we expect you to address the pending questions however? I let this one through because you responded to another posting with at least an attempt at an argument, although still covered in some ad hominem... The sign of a losing argument...

You ignored one of his relevant questions. Any evidence of someone born on US soil who had to be naturalized? In your imaginary world there should be quite a few... So where are they Tracy... Where oh where...]

Tracy shortly declares a victory over us ignernts and withdraws.

NBC and the rest still are waiting.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23532

Quote:

Tracy:
Yo Muckey, skirt boy, how do you think the immigrants feel, the ones that come over and renounce all former allegiances, to acquire full allegiance to America? How do you think they feel that someone can be born here to immigrants with no allegiance and be considered a citizen with NO ALLEGIANCE WHATSOEVER?

Gee, Tracy, I dunno. I suspect they feel great, as even they know, as immigrants, that their children who are born here become citizens by birth, even before that painful years-long naturalization experience for the parents, and those children can then grow up and perhaps be president of the parents' adopted country.

Maru · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:42 pm

DaveMuckey wrote:

Tracy was on a roll this morning in the wee hours.

Quote:

Tracy says:
“A native citizen is just one born here on US soil who became a citizen by either having 2 citizen parents or being here to immigrants and later naturalized.”

The Kilted One responds:
One would get laughed out of any law office in the land if they were to seek Naturalization if they had been born here. But, I’m sure that by morning you can come up with some names for us to explore.

Later...:
Tracy:
Yo Muckey, skirt boy, how do you think the immigrants feel, the ones that come over and renounce all former allegiances, to acquire full allegiance to America? How do you think they feel that someone can be born here to immigrants with no allegiance and be considered a citizen with NO ALLEGIANCE WHATSOEVER?

You are so wrong and you know it!

[NBC: The child born here is born with full allegiance and under full jurisdiction of our Nation. Why should we take away his birthright just because you believe it would offend immigrants? Immigrants have to swear an oath of allegiance, although in many cases, they can still maintain second allegiance, just like our President was initially burdened by statutory citizenship in addition to his natural birth right citizenship. You are under the foolish opinion that a child born on US soil is somehow not born owing full allegiance to the United States. Allegiance and protection, they go hand in hand. Can we expect you to address the pending questions however? I let this one through because you responded to another posting with at least an attempt at an argument, although still covered in some ad hominem... The sign of a losing argument...

You ignored one of his relevant questions. Any evidence of someone born on US soil who had to be naturalized? In your imaginary world there should be quite a few... So where are they Tracy... Where oh where...]

Tracy shortly declares a victory over us ignernts and withdraws.

NBC and the rest still are waiting.

ZekeB · **Posted:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:17 am

Maru wrote:

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:08 am

Someone stop me... I can't take much more of the stoopidity yet I can't break away...

KenyanBornObama wrote:

WRONG, the WHOLE point was that Elk was born to parents who were not citizens and had no allegiance to the US, meaning he was a native American because he was born here, but had no allegiance JUST like Obama.

Elk was born with allegiance to his tribe, JUST as Obama was born with allegiance to his tribe, THE LUO TRIBE!

http://www.economist.com/comment/127284 ... nt-1272842

Unless I'm being punked... She can't really be this idiotic, can she? ](*,)

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9335

Whatever4 wrote:

Someone stop me... I can't take much more of the stoopidity yet I can't break away...

KenyanBornObama wrote:

WRONG, the WHOLE point was that Elk was born to parents who were not citizens and had no allegiance to the US, meaning he was a native American because he was born here, but had no allegiance JUST like Obama.

Elk was born with allegiance to his tribe, JUST as Obama was born with allegiance to his tribe, THE LUO TRIBE!

http://www.economist.com/comment/127284 ... nt-1272842

Unless I'm being punked... She can't really be this idiotic, can she? ](*,)

She can, W4, she can.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:35 am

Just remember:

The same person who is here waxing craptiloquent over allegiance and birth right....

... was holding a poster bigger than herself at the Blue Falcon's homecoming, of He, Lucas Smith's FKBC.

She certainly throws herself wholeheartedly into the next big septic thing. But it's not sincere.

It's just noise. It's like a Pekingese with a squeaky toy.

kate520 · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:02 pm

Pig-ignorant Tracy either can't let an Obot remark pass unchallenged, even if the answer is weird and wrong or she is even more pig-ignorant than I suspected.

I suspect the latter, now.

BFB · **Posted:** Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:12 pm

Whatever4 wrote:

Someone stop me... I can't take much more of the stoopidity yet I can't break away...

Unless I'm being punked... She can't really be this idiotic, can she? ](*,)

She can, and she is.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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