Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.


All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 186 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 8  Next   
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm
Posts: 23530
With the GA Ballot Challenge Thread kinda waaaaaay out there in length, and as is our custom at Fogbow (and formerly at PJ) I am going to begin new threads for the appeals in GA to the ballot challenges.

Welden docs shortly.

2012-02-14 - WELDEN - Motion for Emergency Stay and Preliminary Injunction

2012-02-14 - WELDEN - Petition for Appeal of SOS Decision

2012-02-14 - WELDEN - Van Irion Motion for Pro Hac Vice Admission

_________________
Let us tenderly and kindly cherish, therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write.
John Adams


ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm
Posts: 9332
realist wrote:
With the GA Ballot Challenge Thread kinda waaaaaay out there in length, and as is our custom at Fogbow (and formerly at PJ) I am going to begin new threads for the appeals in GA to the ballot challenges.


Apparently, these imbeciles don't understand what a "stay" is and why you would want it. Hint to morons: all a "stay" would do is keep Obama on the ballot until after you fail to prove your case.

_________________
L—d! said my mother, what is all this story about? — A Cock and a Bull, said Yorick — And one of the best of its kind I ever heard. -- Sterne


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm
Posts: 23530
And like Orly, Van Irion seems incapable of reading the rulz...

From the Motion for Pro Hac Vice...

Quote:
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I certify that I have served the opposing party in this matter with a copy of Petitioner’s Motion to Admit Attorney Van R. Irion Pro Hac Vice by sending a copy via first class U.S. mail to attorney Michael Jablonski at 260 Brighton Rd. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309. A copy was also sent via e-mail addressed to: Michael Jablonski Michael.jablonski@comcast.net
This the 14th day of February, 2012


From the Rulz...

Quote:
1. Verified Application. An eligible Domestic Lawyer seeking to appear in a proceeding pending in this state as counsel pro hac vice shall file a verified application with the court where the litigation is filed. The application shall be served on all parties who have appeared in the case and the Office of General Counsel of the State Bar of Georgia. The application shall include proof of service. The court has the discretion to grant or deny the application summarily if there is no opposition

_________________
Let us tenderly and kindly cherish, therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write.
John Adams


ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm
Posts: 23530
From the Motion for Stay and Preliminary Injunction...

Quote:
Standard for Stay and Preliminary Injunction
Georgia Courts have broad discretion under OCGA § 9-5-8 in deciding whether to grant a request for an interlocutory injunction. Kinard v. Ryman Farm Homeowners' Ass'n, Inc., 278 Ga. 149, 149 (2004); citing West v. Koufman, 259 Ga. 505 (1989). To obtain a preliminary injunction, a movant must show: (1) likelihood of success on the merits; (2) the preliminary injunction is necessary to prevent irreparable injury; (3) the threatened injury outweighs the harm the preliminary injunction would inflict on the non-movant; and (4) the preliminary injunction would serve the public interest. McDonald's Corp. v. Robertson, 147 F.3d 1301, 1306 (11th Cir.1998).


Well, there's the first epic fail. :P

_________________
Let us tenderly and kindly cherish, therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write.
John Adams


ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm
Posts: 3891
realist wrote:
And like Orly, Van Irion seems incapable of reading the rulz...


Not only that, but he's made a rather huge error in naming the parties...

_________________
"In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms."
- Stephen Jay Gould

Barackryphal


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:32 am
Posts: 19905
Location: FEMA Camp 17 -- Malibu (Hey! You! Get off the lawn!)
Occupation: Schadenfreude artist.
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.

_________________
When there are a finite number of ways to screw something up, Orly Taitz will find an infinite number of ways to do so. (The Sternsig Rule.)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:53 pm
Posts: 12869
Location: location, location
Occupation: Ruler of the Intarwebz
Bububububut, that will confuzzle the poor birferz!

_________________
... then one day I found some birthers on my planet. Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:22 pm
Posts: 9134
Location: Supreme Court of clerks
Occupation: Petite treason procurer
Irion also harps on the fact that the Ankeny plaintiffs were pro se, implying the court just went along with what the state argued.

](*,)

_________________
Image Image Image Image Image

ASSUME ANYTHING WRITTEN HERE WILL END UP ON TAITZ'S SITE AND FACEBOOK. AND JEROME CORSI WILL POST SCREENSHOTS TO WND. AND WILL BE FILED BY A BIRTHER AS AN EXHIBIT IN FEDERAL COURT. NOW HAVE FUN!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm
Posts: 3891
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.


Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds that Irion has failed to name the SoS as a defendant.

_________________
"In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms."
- Stephen Jay Gould

Barackryphal


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:17 pm
Posts: 3893
Location: Brigadoon
Occupation: Retired
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.


How deliciously evil would that be? :-

We're gonna need a bigger bucket.

A Nantucket bucket, if you please.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:53 pm
Posts: 12869
Location: location, location
Occupation: Ruler of the Intarwebz
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.
Who is the Georgia AG going to represent? I only see one defendant. :?:

Edit: I'm assuming that means Irion didn't serve it on the AG (or the SoS), also too. He has such struggles trying to serve people.

_________________
... then one day I found some birthers on my planet. Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:52 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:35 am
Posts: 189
Foggy wrote:
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.
Who is the Georgia AG going to represent? I only see one defendant. :?:

Edit: I'm assuming that means Irion didn't serve it on the AG (or the SoS), also too. He has such struggles trying to serve people.


I'm at work and scribd documents are not viewable. Did Irons ONLY name President Obama as defendant?

_________________
Allow me to explain about the theatre business. The natural condition is one of insurmountable obstacles on the road to imminent disaster.
So what do we do?
Nothing. Strangely enough, it all turns out well.
How?
I don't know. It's a mystery.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:53 pm
Posts: 12869
Location: location, location
Occupation: Ruler of the Intarwebz
combatengineer wrote:
Did Irons ONLY name President Obama as defendant?
Yes.

Irion.

And the Proof of Service shows only Jablonski receiving service.

_________________
... then one day I found some birthers on my planet. Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:01 pm
Posts: 300
He appealed the SOS's decision, but only named President Obama as a respondent and only served his counsel. No service on the state.

Edit: Beat by Foggy. Are we helping the idiots?

_________________
When the going gets weird, the weird get going.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:35 am
Posts: 189
Foggy wrote:
combatengineer wrote:
Did Irons ONLY name President Obama as defendant?
Yes.

Irion.

And the Proof of Service shows only Jablonski receiving service.


Thanks Foggy.

So Irion files against the wrong party, Orly does the same and a generic person named 'Sec of State' and then magically makes herself a Plaintiff etc....

The appeals are better then the first round. Not like the sequel rule when it comes to good a movie...

_________________
Allow me to explain about the theatre business. The natural condition is one of insurmountable obstacles on the road to imminent disaster.
So what do we do?
Nothing. Strangely enough, it all turns out well.
How?
I don't know. It's a mystery.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:01 pm
Posts: 300
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.


SF, can you explain this, please (or did I miss something)?

_________________
When the going gets weird, the weird get going.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:53 pm
Posts: 12869
Location: location, location
Occupation: Ruler of the Intarwebz
Now that we know that decision cost us 80% of our national nuclear arsenal, perhaps it's only fitting that the President, who personally negotiated between Ahmadinnerjacket and Malihi, should be the lead respondent in the subsequent attempt to save Western civilization.

Edit: Which raises the question: If Irion wins, do we get to keep our nukes? :-?

_________________
... then one day I found some birthers on my planet. Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm
Posts: 3891
Godwin's Law makes an implicit appearance on page 13 of Irion's appeal:

Quote:
Without the anti-majoritarian protection of the Constitution, Congress could legalize the killing of all Jews, for example, as was done in World War II Germany.


'Allowing Obama to be President is analogous to Hitler ordering the Holocaust.'

_________________
"In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms."
- Stephen Jay Gould

Barackryphal


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:22 pm
Posts: 9134
Location: Supreme Court of clerks
Occupation: Petite treason procurer
Quote:
Without the anti-majoritarian protection of the Constitution, Congress could legalize the killing of all Jews, for example, as was done in World War II Germany.

Congress legalized the killing of Jews in World War II Germany?

Irion needs, in addition to a clue, an editor: "Congress could legalize the killing of all Jews, for example, as Germany did during World War II."

_________________
Image Image Image Image Image

ASSUME ANYTHING WRITTEN HERE WILL END UP ON TAITZ'S SITE AND FACEBOOK. AND JEROME CORSI WILL POST SCREENSHOTS TO WND. AND WILL BE FILED BY A BIRTHER AS AN EXHIBIT IN FEDERAL COURT. NOW HAVE FUN!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm
Posts: 1964
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.


But the Georgia AG is not a party, at least according to what Irions has filed


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:26 pm
Posts: 5510
Location: You Sue-We Serve Legal Support Services, 500 Ala Moana Blvd., Honolulu, HI 96813
Re: the motion for stay/ preliminary injunction -- Irion demonstrates once again that birferin lawyers don't understand the irreparable injury/balancing of harm prongs of the test. The focus is not the applicant's injury; it is the defendant's injury that would be suffered were the injunction granted.

Idiot.

_________________
“I can assure you that already in the Pavlovian swamps of the nutso right, the glands are swelling. Theirs is a different planet from the one you and I inhabit. ” - Newsweek/Daily Beast special correspondent and editor of Democracy: A Journal of Ideas, Michael Tomasky, May 12, 2013


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:26 pm
Posts: 5510
Location: You Sue-We Serve Legal Support Services, 500 Ala Moana Blvd., Honolulu, HI 96813
Chilidog wrote:
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.


But the Georgia AG is not a party, at least according to what Irions has filed


The Georgia AG is the legal representative for all state agencies and officials, including the SoS. My guess is that a statute requires service on the AG of any legal action contesting a state agency act or determination.

_________________
“I can assure you that already in the Pavlovian swamps of the nutso right, the glands are swelling. Theirs is a different planet from the one you and I inhabit. ” - Newsweek/Daily Beast special correspondent and editor of Democracy: A Journal of Ideas, Michael Tomasky, May 12, 2013


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm
Posts: 1964
Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:
Chilidog wrote:
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Prediction: the Georgia AG will move to dismiss on the grounds the SoS did not originally have jurisdiction.


But the Georgia AG is not a party, at least according to what Irions has filed


The Georgia AG is the legal representative for all state agencies and officials, including the SoS.


But the SoS is not named as a defendant.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:26 pm
Posts: 5510
Location: You Sue-We Serve Legal Support Services, 500 Ala Moana Blvd., Honolulu, HI 96813
Chilidog wrote:
Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:
Chilidog wrote:

But the Georgia AG is not a party, at least according to what Irions has filed


The Georgia AG is the legal representative for all state agencies and officials, including the SoS.


But the SoS is not named as a defendant.


But the statute granting the right to appeal requires the SoS to be named.

Van Irion is statute-challenged. He is allergic to legal research or subject to law library dust mite sensitivity.

_________________
“I can assure you that already in the Pavlovian swamps of the nutso right, the glands are swelling. Theirs is a different planet from the one you and I inhabit. ” - Newsweek/Daily Beast special correspondent and editor of Democracy: A Journal of Ideas, Michael Tomasky, May 12, 2013


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm
Posts: 1964
Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:
Chilidog wrote:
But the SoS is not named as a defendant.


But the statute granting the right to appeal requires the SoS to be named.


Don't go all lawyerly on me. :) I'm just pointing out that the petition fails to name the SoS as a defendant (and failed to serve him as well.)

IANAL, but I would consider that a pretty serious defect


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 186 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 8  Next   

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
View new posts | View active topics



Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group