Georgia Ballot Challenge

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:32 am

Yes , that's the same organisation.

Seems to have been founded by some republicans with a particular interest in offshore oil exploration. Interesting cached "who's who" from 2007 here.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:34 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:

Yes , that's the same organisation.

Seems to have been founded by some republicans with a particular interest in offshore oil exploration. Interesting cached "who's who" from 2007 here.

Figures. High and mighty pious assholes. [-(

everalm · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:34 am

Nathanael wrote:

David needs to go brush up on his Bertrand Russell.

With Farrar, rather less Bertrand Russel and more Russel Brand

Judge Mental · **Joined:** Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:29 am **Posts:** 342

Here's a more succint version of the content Hollrah's Sonaran News article...

"David Welden thought that the US Constitution and legal precedent dictate that anyone born in USA without two US citizen parents is not a 'natural born citizen'. He was wrong." :roll:

Thank you. I'll be here all week. If anyone wants a copy of my 'back of a postage stamp' summary of all of Orly Taitz' eligibility cases I'll forward it after you cross my paypal button with silver.

Chilidog · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm **Posts:** 1963

Chilidog's law: "When a thread starts dsicussing Bertrand Russell, you know you are just filling slack time.

bob · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:35 am

Nathanael wrote:

In short: It doesn't matter what we know. We can never know if we really know it.

Phil at RSOL is also fond of this game. He recently wrote:

Quote:

An unused mind is a terrible blight of ignorance on the face of humanity. Quit wallowing in intellectual bankruptcy. Take a chance on being wrong — or right. Use your own mind.

I can "take a chance" on whether covering the cat in raspberry jam is a good idea, but I don't need to actually do it to know that it is not.

The motto of RSOL is, "But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good" (1 Thes. 5:21). Birthers love the first half (question everything), but ignore the second half (acknowledge the truth).

Tarrant · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:05 pm **Posts:** 751

I do like (wrong word but hard to pick a right one) when you have an issue that gets someone so upset that they reveal their true nature.

On one of the recent freep threads on the Georgia case, bushpilot1 has gone full racist is arguing that only those descended from the original citizens of the United States can be natural born, and posting quotes from the founding fathers about their preference for whites etc, asking people whether they believe the founding fathers actually intended for a black person to ever be President.

Some of the birthers are getting so worked up about this they're forgetting that they're supposed to pretend this isn't about race.

Chilidog · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm **Posts:** 1963

Tarrant wrote:

Some of the birthers are getting so worked up about this they're forgetting that they're supposed to pretend this isn't about race.

Wait until they start calling Stanley Ann a race traitor.

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

Tarrant wrote:

I do like (wrong word but hard to pick a right one) when you have an issue that gets someone so upset that they reveal their true nature.

On one of the recent freep threads on the Georgia case, bushpilot1 has gone full racist is arguing that only those descended from the original citizens of the United States can be natural born, and posting quotes from the founding fathers about their preference for whites etc, asking people whether they believe the founding fathers actually intended for a black person to ever be President.

Some of the birthers are getting so worked up about this they're forgetting that they're supposed to pretend this isn't about race.

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bob · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:06 pm

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was there a deal?

Keith Robert wrote:

This morning I was watching our local Fox News station and their bottom of screen crawler reported that the State of Georgia was getting the OK to build 2 new nuclear reactors for power generation from the feds. The first since 1978.
Given the fact that the recent Georgia Judges ruling in threw the constitution under the buss – “in Obama’s favor” – do you really think this is just a coincidence?

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=31449 :twisted:

Keith: Coincidences don't just happen. Any two events are always connected by nefarious shadowy schemes!

* * *

I think the point is that the natives of the Americas weren't citizens of the United States.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3891

Tarrant wrote:

I do like (wrong word but hard to pick a right one) when you have an issue that gets someone so upset that they reveal their true nature.

On one of the recent freep threads on the Georgia case, bushpilot1 has gone full racist is arguing that only those descended from the original citizens of the United States can be natural born, and posting quotes from the founding fathers about their preference for whites etc, asking people whether they believe the founding fathers actually intended for a black person to ever be President.

Some of the birthers are getting so worked up about this they're forgetting that they're supposed to pretend this isn't about race.

And it looks like overt, unvarnished racism is something else that FreeRepublic won't tolerate. bushpilot1 has been zotted.

So the short list of things that will get you banned from FreeRepublic: 1) Opposing Birtherism, 2) Supporting Romney, and 3) Saying only white people should be President.

nycpeter · **Joined:** Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:50 pm **Posts:** 306

bob · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:43 pm

Chilidog wrote:

I wish he would get a hold of Tisdale and help him with his appeal.

Tarrant · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:05 pm **Posts:** 751

Chilidog wrote:

Monte Kuligowski, noted Virginia Beach Traffic lawyer (specializing in DUI /DWI) offers his legal expertise on the Georgia case.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/ ... dence.html

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The Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett (1875) was cited in the recent Georgia ballot challenge hearing. Many jurists agree that it provides the exclusive definition for the Constitution's "natural born citizen" clause, which is a requirement for the presidency.

And this gem

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But a 14th-Amendment citizen is not necessarily a natural born citizen. Contrary to 14th-Amendment jurisprudence, the requirement of sole allegiance to the United States from birth onward has never been stricken from the Constitution's eligibility clause.

I wish he would get a hold of Tisdale and help him with his appeal.

I like that he includes the line "Contrary to 14th Amendment jurisprudence..." In other words, "Even though every single existing court decision and analysis says otherwise..."

Keep hoping, birthers.

Dr. Caligari · **Joined:** Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:22 pm **Posts:** 225

Loren wrote:

And it looks like overt, unvarnished racism is something else that FreeRepublic won't tolerate. bushpilot1 has been zotted.

So the short list of things that will get you banned from FreeRepublic: 1) Opposing Birtherism, 2) Supporting Romney, and 3) Saying only white people should be President.

Opposing Birtherism won't (necessarily) get you zotted. I post a lot on the eligibility threads at FR, and I am not the only member of the anti-birther "Sanity Squad."

raicha · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:29 pm

!	raicha wrote:
	If you wish to discuss the moderation standards on Free Republic, please do it on the Free Republic thread. If you wish to discuss Native American concepts of property ownership, please do it outside of the Eligibility forum. This is the GEORGIA ELECTION CHALLENGE thread. Thank you.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23522

raicha wrote:

!	raicha wrote:
	If you wish to discuss the moderation standards on Free Republic, please do it on the Free Republic thread. If you wish to discuss Native American concepts of property ownership, please do it outside of the Eligibility forum. This is the GEORGIA ELECTION CHALLENGE thread. Thank you.

!	realist wrote:
	+ 1

LM K · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:16 pm

Reality Check wrote:

How is this for some melodramatic hand wringing? From the Sonoran News: Lady Justice has died

Quote:

Historians might have viewed the events of Thursday, January 26, 2012 in Atlanta, Georgia, as one of the singular events of American history, along with landmark events such as Lincoln’s signing of the Emancipation Proclamation; Lee’s surrender at Appomattox; the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor; and the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision.

Birfers. You aren't special. You aren't holding the sekrit key to save the country. You aren't "patriots". You are simply paranoid narcissists.

Get Over Yourselves

Freaking narcissists!

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9321

Reality Check wrote:

How is this for some melodramatic hand wringing? From the Sonoran News: Lady Justice has died

Quote:

Historians might have viewed the events of Thursday, January 26, 2012 in Atlanta, Georgia, as one of the singularly insignificant events of American history, along with landmarktrivial events such as Lincoln’s signing of the Emancipation ProclamationPee-Wee Herman getting caught jerking it in a porno theater; Lee’s surrender at AppomattoxCharlie Sheen banging seven-gram rocks; the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor4chan raids on Habbo Hotel; and the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decisionJanet Jackson Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction."

FIFT.

Xyxox · **Joined:** Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:09 pm **Posts:** 29

LM K wrote:

Reality Check wrote:

How is this for some melodramatic hand wringing? From the Sonoran News: Lady Justice has died

Quote:

Historians might have viewed the events of Thursday, January 26, 2012 in Atlanta, Georgia, as one of the singular events of American history, along with landmark events such as Lincoln’s signing of the Emancipation Proclamation; Lee’s surrender at Appomattox; the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor; and the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision.

Birfers. You aren't special. You aren't holding the sekrit key to save the country. You aren't "patriots". You are simply paranoid narcissists.

Get Over Yourselves

Freaking narcissists!

Wow, that guy is one completely whacked out of his skull nutburger.

raicha · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:38 pm

!	raicha wrote:
	The latest threadjack has been moved to the Hijack This Thread topic. Two mods asked y'all to cease and desist and you merely began marking your posts "off topic". We are always pleased when your response to our requests is, basically, "Fuck you very much". If you wish to keep this thread open for discussion of the GEORGIA ELECTION CHALLENGE please do not continue hijacking the thread.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:47 pm

I was very much hoping this would stay the Georgia thread, so I exercised the Jablonski Empty Chair Technique®, stayed away from posting anything, and mirabile dictu the highjackings all went away.

Wondrous things the Jablonski Empty Chair Technique® will do.

kate520 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:17 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

I was very much hoping this would stay the Georgia thread, so I exercised the Jablonski Empty Chair Technique®, stayed away from posting anything, and mirabile dictu the highjackings all went away.

Wondrous things the Jablonski Empty Chair Technique® will do.

Yes,that may well be. But what you haven't considered is that if you had just jumped in instead of staying away at your own peril you might have made the whole hijack not happen, just with your presence. :mrgreen:

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wavey davey · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:20 pm

I reached the end of the thread! Yay!

I have a question, which I asked several hundred pages back, but I don't recall seeing an answer.

Do we know whether or not an actual, fresh, certified COLB was ever sent to Malihi or Kemp? I believe it was asserted on good authority that it was, but has that ever been confirmed?

It seems likely, given that one was submitted in one of the Illinois challenges, right?

bob · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:24 pm

wavey davey wrote:

Do we know whether or not an actual, fresh, certified COLB was ever sent to Malihi or Kemp? I believe it was asserted on good authority that it was, but has that ever been confirmed?

There has been no official confirmation.

Quote:

It seems likely, given that one was submitted in one of the Illinois challenges, right?

Was a certified COLB submitted in Illinois? (I don't recall seeing one.)

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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