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Postby mimi » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:39 pm

Founder Of Obama Swift Boating Group: ‘I’m A Birther’By Aviva Shen on Aug 17, 2012 at 4:17 pmLarry Bailey, founder of SOSOn Wednesday, a group of former intelligence and Special Forces operatives released a 22-minute video accusing President Obama of jeopardizing sensitive information in order to take credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden. OPSEC, as they call themselves, is one of several new groups dedicated to attacking Obama on military issues, specifically on the Osama bin Laden raid. Now the founder of one of these organizations, Special Operations Speaks, has proudly come out as a birther.Speaking to Foreign Policy’s Josh Rogin, Larry Bailey, a 27-year veteran Navy SEAL, embraced several conspiracy theories about Obama’s roots:

I have to admit it, I’m a Birther … In his books, Obama said his mentor was a fellow named Frank Marshall Davis. Frank Marshall Davis was a member of Communist Party USA, he wrote for the communist party’s Hawaii newsletter, he was a close friend of Obama’s mother, and there’s a strong case that Frank Marshall Davis rather than Barack Obama, Sr. was Barack Obama, Jr.’s father and that Barack Obama, Sr. was just an administrative father of convenience. … Barack Obama’s a born red-diaper baby. He’s a socialist. His beliefs are the very antithesis of my beliefs. As far as I am concerned he is one of the most unlikeable and unprepared politicians we’ve ever had.

Special Operations Speaks claims to simply be concerned veterans trying to stop leaks. But Bailey “admits freely that his extensive efforts to mobilize special operations veterans and their supporters around the country is rooted in his personal dislike of the president and his desire to see him replaced.” He has already produced an ad accusing Obama of leaking sensitive information and hopes to raise over a million dollars to finance more attack ads.

remainder, including the video:[/break1]org/security/2012/08/17/709231/founder-of-obama-swift-boating-group-im-a-birther/]http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/ ... a-birther/Here's Larry (via ThinkProgress)http://thinkprogress.org/wp-contentsrc="http://thefogbow.com/forum/uploads/2012/08/larry-bailey.jpg

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Postby Sterngard Friegen » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:40 pm

Hey, Larry. You forgot to mention President Obama's black.

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Postby mimi » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:55 pm

Larry's site:[/break1]com/]http://specialoperationsspeaks.com/

OOPS: Anti-Obama PAC Features Commander Who Thinks Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ By Ben Armbruster on Jul 27, 2012 at 2:27 pmU.S. Special Operations commander Adm. William McRavenThree retired special operations officers have started a new political action committee aimed at, as a recent fundraising email states, “remov[ing] Barack Obama from office.” The swift-boat style group, Special Operations Speaks, will try to achieve this goal by highlighting “what they see as unforgivably security leaks by President Obama and his team.” The email, signed by retired SEAL captain Larry Bailey, continues:

[blah blah]

It’s interesting then, that the group’s website promoted a Fox News article yesterday reporting that current U.S. Special Operations commander Adm. William McRaven, while warning about national security leaks, praised Obama as a “fantastic” commander-in-chief:Indeed, talking with CNN’s Wolf Blizter at the Aspen Security Forum this week, McRaven said, “we’re never happy when leaks occur obviously,” but the Special Operations commander never pinned any blame on the president. In fact, as the article SOS promoted notes, McRaven praised Obama: [snip] MCRAVEN: The president of the United States is fantastic. And, again, I am not a political guy. I have worked in both administrations. I very, very much enjoyed working for President Bush, and I very much enjoy working for President Obama. … This is about a commander in chief who I have the opportunity to engage with on a routine basis, and watching him and the decisions he makes, along with his national security team. They’re a very impressive group of guys and gals.

more:[/break1]org/security/2012/07/27/598511/anti-obama-pac-mccraven-obama-fantastic/]http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/ ... fantastic/Good going, Lar. :lol: Larry popped into a blog that posted his video and left this comment.

Larry Bailey Says:August 12th, 2012 at 8:30 pmThanks a bunch for posting this! We intend to beat that sucker!Larry Baileyspecialoperationsspeaks.com

Hey Larry,[sekrit].:twoup: Stop in again after November so I can tell you again.[/sekrit]Here's a link to the Foreign Policy article:[/break1]foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/08/17/anti_obama_navy_seal_leader_i_m_a_birther]http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... _a_birther

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Postby Sterngard Friegen » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:01 pm

The only sucker Larry is going to beat is the one between his legs.

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Postby TexasFilly » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:04 pm

The only sucker Larry is going to beat is the one between his legs.

:lol:

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Postby PatGund » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:29 pm

I'll bet money that Larry Bailey is getting information and help from Jerome Corsi on this too.[link]As for the PAC,http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/com_detail/C00524280/[/link]

"Committee ID: C00524280SPECIAL OPERATIONS SPEAKS PAC - SOS PAC103 PAMLICO PLACECHOCOWINITY, NC 27817Treasurer Name: DAN BACKERCommittee Designation: U (UNAUTHORIZED)Committee Type: NON-QUALIFIED NON-PARTY WITH NON-CONTRIBUTION ACCOUNT "

Dan Backer is a conservative attorney who is involved with DB Capitol Strategies (he's their Principal Attorney) and who feels that "corporate spending on elections is a good thing". He's based out of Washington DC, but the PAC is registered in North Carolina.[link]Top two super PACs rake in $24 million from companies - 25 July 2012,http://www.iwatchnews.org/2012/07/25/10201/big-business-prefers-gop-over-democratic-super-pacs[/link]

"Conservative attorney Dan Backer of DB Capitol Strategies is among those who think corporate spending on elections is a good thing.'More corporate spending' needed“Corporations have issues too,” Backer said “They are subject to extraordinary regulation and over-taxation. Why shouldn’t they be able to say, ‘Vote against so-and-so'?""We need more corporate spending — not less,” he added."

[link]Resources for Reporting on Super PACs - 2 June 2012,https://www.newsu.org/resources/sri/covering-campaign-financing[/link]

@DBCapStrategies (Dan Backer): Super PAC lawyer who's pushing the limits on what PACs and super PACs can do

[link]Four billionaires among biggest contributors - 26 April 2012,http://www.iwatchnews.org/2012/04/26/8753/top-10-donors-make-third-donations-super-pacs[/link]

'Washington, D.C.-based attorney Dan Backer, a proponent of super PACs, suspects that much of the money flowing to these nascent groups will come from “the same folks who’ve always contributed," though he also argues that super PACs will allow more people to get involved and have their voices heard.Backer said the money “translates into information that empowers voters."

[link]Conservative super PAC's donors are few and rich - 20 April 2012,http://www.iwatchnews.org/2012/04/20/8715/more-half-crossroads-cash-comes-three-texas-tycoons[/link]

"Conservative attorney Dan Backer, who has worked to loosen campaign finance regulations, however, thinks such concerns are overblown.He says donors’ spending money in politics does not guarantee that their concerns will be addressed.“Money provides access to opportunities to tell your story, and if your story is good, you’ll get results, and if it’s bad, you won’t,” he told iWatch News. “In a free society, we have a marketplace for ideas. If your ideas are good, they catch on, and money doesn’t have much to do with it.”

So their treasurer is an attorney who's a shill and apologist for the whole SuperPAC thing to begin with.And if you look at [link]DB Capitol Strategies client list,http://www.dbcapitolstrategies.com/clients/[/link], a familar name pops out:The Conservative Action Fund. The same people doing the lying birther ads. The same group with ties to Jerome Corsi.

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Postby mary » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:33 pm

Michael Smerconish is about to address this on Hardball after the break. Hardball repeats at 7 EDT.

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Postby TexasFilly » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:35 pm

Seems to me that this a non-starter for Corsi and his puppets. Barack Obama is not John Kerry. As the sitting President of the US, if this did get any kind of serious media traction, I'd expect the Joint Chiefs to come out and say these guys are wrong, and to STFU. Colin Powell, too, also. The kind of people who will glom onto this ain't voting for the President anyway. Having a birther head up a PAC is a surefire strategy for success!

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Postby Whatever4 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:08 pm

The only sucker Larry is going to beat is the one between his legs.

He has leeches in his pants? :-k

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Postby much ado » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:16 pm

The President of the United States does not "leak" military secrets. The President of the United States may reveal previously classified military information, but that is not a "leak". In the words of my daughter, "Just sayin'..."

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Postby mimi » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:30 pm

Michael Smerconish is about to address this on Hardball after the break. Hardball repeats at 7 EDT.

All of the msnbc shows are linked here:[/break1]msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/I don't get msnbc, so I gotta watch them online. I generally go to the individual blogs, but the above link is very handy. :D

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Postby bob » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:32 pm

Treasonous lap dog media in Salon.com is now attacking top rnking CIA and military officers, who released Dishonorable.disclosures.com





Salon: [/break1]salon.com/blog/gordon_hilgers/2012/08/17/dishonorable_disclosures_triumph_of_the_will_2012]“DISHONORABLE DISCLOSURES”: TRIUMPH OF THE WILL, 2012


Oh, it’s that time again. In an echo of 2004’s hit-job by the Swift Boat Veterans of America, a bunch of lunk-headed military malcontents has released a breathless 30-minute propaganda film that is supposed to indict President Barack Obama for leaking important information that has somehow endangered their sorry little asses.





[...]





“Dishonorable Disclosures” is supposedly put out by OPSEC, but it’s really nothing more than [highlight]yet another hatchet-job a la Orly Taitz, the birther queen[/highlight] who has been after the so-called truth about Obama’s supposedly humble origins in the grasslands of Kenya—all of it designed to bring an outsider into the inner sanctums of the White House and make us all live in mud huts or something. Even the not-so-venerable Donald Trump is on board with Orly, but in “Dishonorable Disclosures” (NOTE: I keep wanting to call it “Dishonorable Deceivers” but that’s beside the point…), big-fat-headed generals are in on the game to get a big reaction out of the kind of people who are always finding Osama bin Laden in WalMart parking lots.

:twisted: [/break1]orlytaitzesq.com/?p=240693]http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=240693 :twisted:

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Postby RTH10260 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:44 pm

I viewed my way thru most of the video clip of Dishonorable Disclosures and find the concrete issues laughable.Disclosing the name of a Seal unit: well, the operational number Six will not be usable again. But then no names of members ever made it to the public to the best of my knowlege. And no listing of members of this team nor their home addresses was ever seen.Announcing the death of OBL: there was no way that this could have been kept under the lid until the bounty was analyzed, as the group suggests. The operation was done in a foreign nation and that alone would have given rise to press coverage. Least but not last a Pakistani in the city of A... was awake and at his computer and twittered the happening of helicopters, shooting and explosions real time as the strike was happening. And of course they like to forget the CIA operative lady who was disclosed during the GWBush administration.

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Postby aarrgghh » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:22 pm

a comment i left [/break1]obamaconspiracy.org/2012/08/swift-boaters-v-black-ops-and-things-too-silly-to-comment-on/#comment-207441]@ doc's:





because in 2004 the smear merchants displayed some originality and had the element of surprise.





but today, after spending eight years analyzing it to death, there’s nothing new about it. from the moment this latest gambit was thrown down, headlines recognized it immediately and have already inseparably conjoined it to the 2004 ploy. and this time the targets are fully engaged and on the offensive. so unless there’s some inventive new twist to this sequel, “swiftboat 2: the quickening” is going to turn out to be another big expensive flop.

:whisper: [sekrit][imgwidth=300]http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/aarrgghhv2/not_a_swift_boat01.jpg[/imgwidth][/sekrit]

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Postby borealis » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:25 pm

Faux Noise had a young, handsome and buff former SEAL on several of their shows yesterday. HE was tarring Obama as best he could. I turned off the evildoers. =;

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Postby 1 guest » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:56 pm

Disclosing the name of a Seal unit: well, the operational number Six will not be usable again. But then no names of members ever made it to the public to the best of my knowlege. And no listing of members of this team nor their home addresses was ever seen.


New York Times, 1984 - i.e. Reagan:





One unit, identified as Navy SEAL Team Six, based at the Little Creek Naval AmphibiousBase outside Norfolk, Va., operates amid extraordinary secrecy. Its members dress incivilian clothes, are permitted to have long hair and beards, and train at civilianinstallations, including the Pinal County Air Park near Tucson, Ariz., which was a C.I.A.air base in the 1970's, according to former intelligence officials. When one team member was killed in a skydiving accident at the air park last year, his colleagues initially ordereddoctors and nurses at St. Mary's Hospital in Tucson not to turn over the body to the countrymedical examiner for ''national security reasons,'' hospital authorities said in a recentinterview. Civilian skydivers at the air park were told not to take pictures of the teammembers, and employees were instructed not to record their names.

[/break1]scribd.com/doc/97828646/NYT-June-8-1984-U-S-MILITARY-SECRET-UNITS]http://www.scribd.com/doc/97828646/NYT- ... CRET-UNITS





Moreover:





In 1987, SEAL Team Six was dissolved. A new unit, dubbed the "Naval Special Warfare Development Group," was formed, essentially as ST6's successor. Reasons for the disbanding are varied,[11] but the name SEAL Team Six is often used in reference to DEVGRU.

[/break1]wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Special_Warfare_Development_Group]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... ment_Group





You would think patriotic experts on Special Forces would know these things.








Announcing the death of OBL: there was no way that this could have been kept under the lid until the bounty was analyzed, as the group suggests. The operation was done in a foreign nation and that alone would have given rise to press coverage. Least but not last a Pakistani in the city of A... was awake and at his computer and twittered the happening of helicopters, shooting and explosions real time as the strike was happening.


Announcing the death of OBL was not a leak - it was an absolute duty. To say we - the American people - have no decisive interest in knowing that is ludicrous.

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Postby borealis » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:23 pm

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Postby DaveMuckey » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:54 pm

Not to mention that he has consistently stuck to "we" got bin Laden. I'm going to need stronger pharmaceuticals to get through this election cycle.And "2016" is being advertised on Rachel's show.I'm gonna spew.

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Postby Plutodog » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:49 pm

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Postby GreatGrey » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:59 pm

Faux Noise had a young, handsome and buff former SEAL on several of their shows yesterday. HE was tarring Obama as best he could. I turned off the evildoers. =;

Was it this guy, Scott Taylor? Soledad O'Brien de-nutted him tonight.[/break1]rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/17/obrien-lays-waste-to-anti-obama-navy-seals-claim-of-non-partisanship/]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/17/o ... tisanship/[BBvideo 425,350:2vwzes9n]http://ht.cdn.turner.com/cnn/big//bestoftv/2012/08/17/exp-point-scott-taylor-two.cnn_416x234_dl.flv[/BBvideo]

On Friday’s edition of “Starting Point” O’Brien challenged “OPSEC” or “Operational Security group” spokesperson and former Navy SEAL Scott Taylor’s purported “non-partisan” status.“I know you know some of the criticism and it is that, even though you claim to be nonpartisan, that this group is actually very partisan,” she said. “You’re a Republican, you ran for Congress in 2010 in Virginia’s second congressional district. You have a rep in your group who worked for the Bush administration, you share office space with Republican groups. How do you answer that claim of being partisan when you claim that you’re not?”


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Postby Butterfly Bilderberg » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:04 pm

The only sucker Larry is going to beat is the one between his legs.






Only if he has some of this:











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Postby aarrgghh » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:05 pm




[/break1]barackobama.com/truth-team/entry/never-assume]Friend





It’s easy to look at the attacks, smears, and lies being told about President Obama and his record and say, “Come on, that’s ridiculous. No one could possibly believe that.”





Trust me: You and I learned the hard way eight years ago this August that in the new world we’re living in — one with 24-hour news cycles, the internet, blogs, the echo chamber, and now the new Citizens United-fueled Republican money machine — even completely baseless attacks can stick if people don’t call them out quickly enough. No matter how self-evidently false the attacks are, or how disreputable the people telling them may be, there’s no attack that can’t take hold.





Seeing the new outrageous attacks made against President Obama from a shadowy Republican-allied veterans group called OPSEC, which take issue with the mission to kill Osama bin Laden, remind me all too well of the notorious “Swift Boat” attacks I faced in the 2004 campaign. I honor and appreciate the service of my fellow veterans, but a false attack is a false attack — no matter who’s making it.





It’s not enough to wish them away or dismiss them because they come in part from “birthers” who still won’t concede that President Obama was born here in the United States.





No, we need to get moving now — before it’s too late.






[snip]





... Faced with all this, it shouldn’t be a surprise that Romney and his allies are resorting to the same national security smear tactics I faced in 2004. We have to take it seriously. Forward this email to your friends, and encourage them to join us on the Truth Team today:





Thanks for fighting back — forewarned is forearmed!


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Postby borealis » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:42 pm

Grey: No. It was Ben Smith. Could it be all these leaks were done by career neocons at the CIA. military and NSA so they could make sure to wreak some havoc this election cycle.Geesh. Now I have to go take a very hot soapy shower. I'm going to need Lava to get this scum off! And some barbicide wouldn't hurt either.

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Postby Plutodog » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:04 am

If you've been involved in black ops, working to take out creeps like bin Laden, in which pretty much anything goes to fool and take them down, andIf you're politically radical/sick enough to see the other party/political persuasion as part of that bad guy group, "enemies, foreign and domestic", thenWill you have any compunctions, any inhibitions from going after the other party/political persuasion in just as unprincipled, unscrupulous way as you would go after a bin Laden?It ain't easy being a government spook and maintaining your human decency/integrity. Even though you're working for the "good guys", more or less, you're doing stuff, that can be kind of hard on your moral compass, your emotional balance.
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