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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:04 pm 
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Orly wants the SoS to agree to ARBITRATION!



I do hope that is binding arbitration.

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Would it be too much to hope, at the end of this episode, for Orly to be declared a vexlit in the Great State of Georgia?



maybe an "abusive litigation" case can be made against her?


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I don't understand why she is even a lit in the State of Georgia. By my reading of what is above concerning pro hac vice, she should not even have been in that hearing room except as a spectator.


Does the Georgia rule also apply to administrative hearings?


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Response sent to Vincent R. Russo, legal counsel to Secretary of State of GA, Brian Kemp
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Dear Mr. Russo, I do not have any difficulty opening the attachment, I do have some difficulty comprehending the magnitude of public corruption and treason against the United States of America and its’ Constitution exhibited by this office. Please, let me know, whether Secretary Kemp will be willing to consider an appeal of his decision. If he is not willing ot consider the appeal, we will be going to higher courts and bringing charges against both Obama and Kemp. Please, let me know, if Mr. Kemp is willing to enter into mediation or arbitration prior to filing charges in higher courts. sincerely, Dr. Orly Taitz ESQ
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Russo, Vincent vrusso@ wrote:
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Attached hereto is a signed copy of the Secretary’s Final Decision entered today. Please let me know if you have any difficulty opening the attachment.
Thank you,
Vincent R. Russo
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Office of Secretary of State Brian P. Kemp


I really hope Georgia allows her PHV just so she can get sanctioned and smacked down again.

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It's easy. Just before you leave, post an inconsequential comment. Then when you come back, all you have to do is list your own comments and PRESTO! that's where you were. I think a lot of people use that method.


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I really hope Georgia allows her PHV just so she can get sanctioned and smacked down again.


My thinking is since she has now demonstrated to all of GA that there are no limits to her insanity and that she intends to slander, harass, and sue everyone that does not rule in her favor, they probably wouldn’t give her a bucket of water if she burst into flames.
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I sure as hell doubt they would give her anything that would give her a green light to run like a crazed bull through a china shop in their court system.

And if they do, may doG have mercy on them cuz we sure as hell won't. [-X

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Questions for Loren or another GA attorney:

  1. The appeals will be docketed as [challenger] v Kemp correct?
  2. Does the Attorney General represent SoS Kemp?
  3. If multiple appeals are filed how likely is it that they will be consolidated into one case? (In that case we could have Team Hatfield/Van Irion/Taitz. :-bd )
  4. What is the extent of participation of the candidate who prevailed on the challenge?
  5. Edit: How likely are oral arguments on an appeal?

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uncle_spike wrote:
I really hope Georgia allows her PHV just so she can get sanctioned and smacked down again.


My thinking is since she has now demonstrated to all of GA that there are no limits to her insanity and that she intends to slander, harass, and sue everyone that does not rule in her favor, they probably wouldn’t give her a bucket of water if she burst into flames.


I know the chances are somewhere right around nil, but dang it, I want more screeching!

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MsDaisy wrote:
uncle_spike wrote:
I really hope Georgia allows her PHV just so she can get sanctioned and smacked down again.


My thinking is since she has now demonstrated to all of GA that there are no limits to her insanity and that she intends to slander, harass, and sue everyone that does not rule in her favor, they probably wouldn’t give her a bucket of water if she burst into flames.
NADT

I sure as hell doubt they would give her anything that would give her a green light to run like a crazed bull through a china shop in their court system.

And if they do, may doG have mercy on them cuz we sure as hell won't. [-X


If they're like everyone else has been, they'll PHV her again - it's the path of least resistance, and that seems to be what everyone wants to take with Orly because to do otherwise is to invite major hell into their lives. Even if they are fairly certain that they'll have to rule against her in the long run, they'd rather take the heat over a decision they can defend than have to deal with both Hurricane Orly AND the appearance that they're unwilling to let a "legitimate" petitioner have their day in court.

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Reality Check wrote:
Questions for Loren or another GA attorney:


"The appeals will be docketed as [challenger] v Kemp correct?"

Yep.

"Does the Attorney General represent SoS Kemp?"

Yep. Or at least, his office will.

"If multiple appeals are filed how likely is it that they will be consolidated into one case? (In that case we could have Team Hatfield/Van Irion/Taitz. :-bd )"

I'd say highly likely.

"What is the extent of participation of the candidate who prevailed on the challenge?"

Minimal, I expect. The appeal is against the SoS, not the candidate. It wouldn't really *surprise* me if the Birthers try to add Obama as a party, though.

The thing is, there doesn't appear to be a lot of history of appeals under this statute, at least not beyond the Superior Court. The one back in 2000 got screwed up because they failed to name the SoS as the defendant. And the only appellate decision that shows up in Lexis is Handel v. Powell, which involved the Secretary herself challenging the candidate and overruling the judge. Thus, the candidate himself appealed, and won.

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Myron wrote:

She is offering Kemp arbitration? How the hell does that work?

Orly: He is a communist traitor. But I am willing to accept "unknowing dupe."

Arbitrator: We will settle on "useful idiot."


The OSAH rules allow for mediation. Of course, that was available PRE-hearing. Moreover, this is no longer within OSAH jurisdiction. You don't get to mediate or arbitrate after you've lost.

Orly is (as usual) a day late and a dollar short.

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Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:
The OSAH rules allow for mediation. Of course, that was available PRE-hearing. Moreover, this is no longer within OSAH jurisdiction. You don't get to mediate or arbitrate after you've lost.


But this isn't mediation of the just-heard-and-ruled challenges : it's that The Obly is offering NEW mediation concerning the THREATENED charges that Kemp & Obama are traitorous etc etc.

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If he is not willing ot consider the appeal, we will be going to higher courts and bringing charges against both Obama and Kemp. Please, let
me know, if Mr. Kemp is willing to enter into mediation or arbitration prior to filing charges in higher courts.


I guess it's a bit Oblyambiguous as to whether it's mediation or arbitration concerning the APPEAL or the THREATENED charges.

There's a legal word for the latter, isn't there?

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Is it possible that this, through the climb up the appeals ladder, end up in the hands of the Judge who sanctioned her for 20k?

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tjh wrote:
But this isn't mediation of the just-heard-and-ruled challenges : it's that The Obly is offering NEW mediation concerning the THREATENED charges that Kemp & Obama are traitorous etc etc.

Taitz: Obama and Kemp are guilty of treason and misprision!

Arbitrator: Would you accept charges of light treason* and two Class A misdemeanors?



* See Arrested Development.

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Adrianinflorida wrote:
Is it possible that this, through the climb up the appeals ladder, end up in the hands of the Judge who sanctioned her for 20k?

No. That was a federal judge (in a district that does not contain Atlanta). Review will be in state court.

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California Rules of Professional Conduct

Rule 5-100 Threatening Criminal, Administrative, or Disciplinary
Charges

(A) A member shall not threaten to present criminal, administrative,
or disciplinary charges to obtain an advantage in a civil dispute.

(B) As used in paragraph (A) of this rule, the term "administrative
charges" means the filing or lodging of a complaint with a federal,
state, or local governmental entity which may order or recommend the
loss or suspension of a license, or may impose or recommend the
imposition of a fine, pecuniary sanction, or other sanction of a
quasi-criminal nature but does not include filing charges with an
administrative entity required by law as a condition precedent to
maintaining a civil action.

(C) As used in paragraph (A) of this rule, the term "civil dispute"
means a controversy or potential controversy over the rights and duties
of two or more parties under civil law, whether or not an action has
been commenced, and includes an administrative proceeding of a
quasi-civil nature pending before a federal, state, or local
governmental entity.

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Here’s a thought. Being as they have suspended the Constitution in Georgia and no longer have a rule of law, but rather a rule of lawlessness, I believe it might no longer be safe to travel there. Therefore I propose a boycott on travel to that state and would ask that their travel bureaus and chambers of commerce be put on notice to that effect.

DONE! I, for one, will not be spending $11k to vacation there with six of my witnesses friends.

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tjh wrote:
California Rules of Professional Conduct

Rule 5-100 Threatening Criminal, Administrative, or Disciplinary
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Please, tjh. Are you trying to mess up the new President of the State Bar of California's zero inventory? Sheesh! :roll:

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California Rules of Professional Conduct

Rule 5-100 Threatening Criminal, Administrative, or Disciplinary
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[... snip ...]



Those seem to be mere words on a website intended to mislead the public about the standards of integrity to which members of the State Bar of California are held.

http://rules.calbar.ca.gov/Rules/RulesofProfessionalConduct/CurrentRules/Rule5100.aspx

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Is it possible that this, through the climb up the appeals ladder, end up in the hands of the Judge who sanctioned her for 20k?

No. That was a federal judge (in a district that does not contain Atlanta). Review will be in state court.


No, there's a valid route to the Middle District under Orlylaw. She was admitted there PHV. The purpose was challengerizing, the usurping Kenyan. The current action is also challengerizing the usurping Kenyan. Therefore Taitz is still admitted to be, lawyering there. Taitz is to be having plaintiff, who lives within 5,000 miles of courthouse building, and is challenging a person, who is to be having no valid identification papers, but who is in the White Horse living. As this is crisis of intergalactic proportions, and Taitz is only lawyer bringing most explosive Obamafraudgerygate evidence, venue is being appropriate here. Furthermore, as Taitz has shown, incontrovertible expert testimony on the record of Court of Iranian Muslim Malihi, that Malihi criminally was ignoring, Taitz has now demonstrated, that Judge Land was insupportable to claim that civil rights decedent Taitz was frivolous. Therefore, Taitz will also petition Judge Land to sewer sponte cancel the unjust sanction of $20,000, that was, further shown to be incorrect when California Bar awarded Taitz most ethical lawyer standing.


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My thinking is since she has now demonstrated to all of GA that there are no limits to her insanity and that she intends to slander, harass, and sue everyone that does not rule in her favor, they probably wouldn’t give her a bucket of water if she burst into flames.


Not only that, but it's a warning to every other state's election officials and Secretary of States, of the risk of playing nice with the birthers, particularly Dr. Orly.

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Here’s a thought. Being as they have suspended the Constitution in Georgia and no longer have a rule of law, but rather a rule of lawlessness, I believe it might no longer be safe to travel there. Therefore I propose a boycott on travel to that state and would ask that their travel bureaus and chambers of commerce be put on notice to that effect.


Somehow I don't think anyone would really notice.

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tjh wrote:
California Rules of Professional Conduct

Rule 5-100 Threatening Criminal, Administrative, or Disciplinary
Charges

(A) A member shall not threaten to present criminal, administrative,
or disciplinary charges to obtain an advantage in a civil dispute.

(B) As used in paragraph (A) of this rule, the term "administrative
charges" means the filing or lodging of a complaint with a federal,
state, or local governmental entity which may order or recommend the
loss or suspension of a license, or may impose or recommend the
imposition of a fine, pecuniary sanction, or other sanction of a
quasi-criminal nature but does not include filing charges with an
administrative entity required by law as a condition precedent to
maintaining a civil action.

(C) As used in paragraph (A) of this rule, the term "civil dispute"
means a controversy or potential controversy over the rights and duties
of two or more parties under civil law, whether or not an action has
been commenced, and includes an administrative proceeding of a
quasi-civil nature pending before a federal, state, or local
governmental entity.


Given how many times she's made those threats, you'd think the CA Bar would have done SOMETHING, but so far, nope :angry:

:explode:

I have to wonder if maybe they'd do anything more if they had a kind of "concentrated Orly threat" list - something that just gave them quote after quote after quote of her threatening judges, lawyers and other court personnel over the last three years or so - something that just laid bare how excessive she truly is with her threats. Maybe even a list of each case she's filed, with any threats listed beneath the case name, so they can see the ratio of cases where she ends up threatening someone to the ones (are there any?) where she doesn't. But they'd just ignore that like they've ignored everything else, so it'd end up being a lot of work for nothing.

Do you have ANY idea how sick that makes me?

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Here’s a thought. Being as they have suspended the Constitution in Georgia and no longer have a rule of law, but rather a rule of lawlessness, I believe it might no longer be safe to travel there. Therefore I propose a boycott on travel to that state and would ask that their travel bureaus and chambers of commerce be put on notice to that effect.

DONE! I, for one, will not be spending $11k to vacation there with six of my witnesses friends.
This is serious. If all the birfers band together in solidarity and boycot Georgia, it could cost Denny's and Motel 6 upwards of $500 in lost revenues.

Rock City may never recover!

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Rock City may never recover!

Rock City is in Chattanooga, TN. Right on the GA border, but I believe it's on the TN side. In a former life, I lived there and worked close enough to be able to go to the restaurant at Rock City for lunch.

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