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OK, I'm dyin' here. =)) =))

I googled: farrar v obama evidence
And got under: Scholarly articles for farrar v obama evidence
the article: … intellectual amateurism, or, the problem with evidence- …

=)) =)) :::breathe::: =)) =)) =))

=)) =D> And you hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button, right?

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(borrowed from the freeper thread)

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In a more perfect world, all of the scholarly research done by freepers regarding NBC would be considered.


i don't think that those words mean what he thinks they mean ...

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Hey Birthers, Joey Farah got you some ink at The Hill.

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By Alicia M. Cohn - 02/01/12 01:08 PM ET


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... qus_thread

Another post says Hannity called birthers 'idiots'. :lol:

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Ed Brayton just learned of Herb Titus's theory on 'natural born citizen', via a clip from a radio show that was posted over at Right Wing Watch. Ed says:

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Reconstructionist or not, that’s absolutely insane and vile.


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Ed Brayton just learned of Herb Titus's theory on 'natural born citizen', via a clip from a radio show that was posted over at Right Wing Watch. Ed says:

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Reconstructionist or not, that’s absolutely insane and vile.


http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... al-birther


I changed my siggy a while back to reflect the nuttiness...

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Tom Ballantyne, who apparently wrote a book on how O'Reilly is a liberal or something, sez he will be giving Jan Brewer a talking to in Arizona.

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I appreciate your thoughts…and agree. Two weeks ago, Jack Cashill and I spoke to the 450+ people at the Red Mountain Tea Party, which she will be addressing next week. Everyone there is primed for this issue, and I will prayerfully prepare for how I will approach her. This latest little dust-up between the Governor and our unenlightened Despot will only serve to our advantage. He is so self-absorbed that he thinks he can threaten and abuse her, when with the stroke of her pen she can keep him off of the ballot in November…and that is precisely what I will tell her!


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Why doesn't he just use the "N" word and get it over with?

And keeping the incumbent President off the ballot with a "stroke of the pen"? This guy is living in a fantasyland where unenlightened Despots, like the Governor of Arizona have unlimited power. Do any of the Tea Baggers understand anything about our country's history or political and legal systems?

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Of all of the "I have a few questions" you've ever asked, that has to be one of the funniest. :-bd

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No.

Nor do they want to understand anything about our history or our political and legal systems, since it has all been unconstitutional since 1861 or 1867 or some such date. Or everything has been in violation of the 10th Amendment since (insert a Presidential act). A Constitutional political and legal system would never have allowed a black man to become President.

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Of all of the "I have a few questions" you've ever asked, that has to be one of the funniest. :-bd

Purely rhetorical. I almost used :rant: but I can't find it now as a smiley.

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Purely rhetorical. I almost used :rant: but I can't find it now as a smiley.

Slightly OT, but not really too much, I thought you might like this.

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Tom Ballantyne, who apparently wrote a book on how O'Reilly is a liberal or something, sez he will be giving Jan Brewer a talking to in Arizona.

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(W)hen with the stroke of her pen she can keep him off of the ballot in November…and that is precisely what I will tell her!



How soon they forget. Brewer was the traitor who actually vetoed a birther bill.

:idea: I understand! :idea: She vetoed the birther bill because it would restrict her authority to remove the communist Muslim usurper from the ballot with a stroke of a pen. Brilliant, just brilliant. :rimshot:

I'll be here all week. :))

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Purely rhetorical. I almost used :rant: but I can't find it now as a smiley.

Slightly OT, but not really too much, I thought you might like this.


That study surely pissed off Tallubablah. A series of tweets from her:

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@_ccm Anyone who disagrees with the Libs agenda are either #Racist #Stupid, or if they happen to be a minority…#UncleTom s #sgp #ocra #phnm


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@_ccm Ergo, they block every Conservative frm grad school/tenure…then write a "scientific study declaring Conservatives STUPID RACISTS #phnm


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@_ccm Then, after publishing the "scientific study" they get HUFFPO to publish it! #OneHandClapping #tcot #sgp #ocra #phnm


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@_ccm A word to the wise: PENDULUMS SWING. #tcot #sgp #ocra #phnm



For the record, I don't really put much stock in such studies. I've seen Conservatives tout studies against Liberals, and vice versa.

Also, that whole rant from Talubablah was the result of @_ccm saying that the billboard in question does not say all white people are racists.

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@_ccm: It doesn't say that. RT @JGalt9: Liberals Put Up Billboard Calling All White People Racist http://t.co/Suq61Gnn #tcot #sgp #ocra #phnm


And off Tallubablah went to prove... something?

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http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/02/01/titus-biblical-birther


How far has their hatred made them fall?

The linked page tells about a "biblical scholar", Herb Titus, the former dean of the Regent University Law School, and how he claims that "if you’re born of two parents, that is a mother and father, who are of the same citizenship, then you have been ordained by God to be a citizen of the nation of your parents."

Taken to the logical conclusion, it would mean Christ was not a Jew and the Jewish tradition and Law of Return which grants citizenship through the maternal line, Wikipedia is ungodly. [-(

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Ok.... KBOA now says:

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It’s quite obvious that Maskell is a shill for Obama and is covering up the truth! Many have called and written Jack to see why he did this but no one can get a response. Someone filed a case against him, but that has not come out yet! I’m planning on going to DC next week to find out why he’s ignoring us!


Anyone know what she's talking about this time? On what grounds would someone sue a lawyer in the CRS?

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Ok.... KBOA now says:

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It’s quite obvious that Maskell is a shill for Obama and is covering up the truth! Many have called and written Jack to see why he did this but no one can get a response. Someone filed a case against him, but that has not come out yet! I’m planning on going to DC next week to find out why he’s ignoring us!

Anyone know what she's talking about this time? On what grounds would someone sue a lawyer in the CRS?

In the real world? None. But in birtherstan, there's quite a list (false statements, government fraud, misprision, etc.).

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Ok.... KBOA now says:

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It’s quite obvious that Maskell is a shill for Obama and is covering up the truth! Many have called and written Jack to see why he did this but no one can get a response. Someone filed a case against him, but that has not come out yet! I’m planning on going to DC next week to find out why he’s ignoring us!


Anyone know what she's talking about this time? On what grounds would someone sue a lawyer in the CRS?


Oh, this should be good. Tracy's going to D.C. to confront him?? She is really getting desperate for attention, isn't she? I think she might end up getting the kind of attention that no one wants.

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Taken to the logical conclusion, it would mean Christ was not a Jew and the Jewish tradition and Law of Return which grants citizenship through the maternal line, Wikipedia is ungodly. [-(

That "logical conclusion" has long been made by some Xtian ministers. Jesus Was Not a Jew by Dr. Wesley A.
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Tonight we are speaking on a subject which the Church must learn to understand. There are many people who are under a strange delusion, finding themselves serving a fake set of ideas, which are very disturbing to them in the light of what they know and see round about. There are many who have been told that Jesus Christ is a Jew, and therefore The Most High and Saviour of their Christian faith comes out of a race which hates Christianity, does all that it can to destroy it, and is now working insidiously all over the United States to get the Bible and prayer out of our schools, and to take the Name of Jesus Christ out of every phase of our national life.

Now this is hard for some people to understand. They ask, How could Jesus be a Jew, with all Jews fighting everything that relates to Christianity and His Name? Of course the great confusion that exists in the minds of many is in the fact that they have been ill-informed concerning who the house of Israel actually is, and they do not know that there is a vast distinction between the house of Israel (the descendants of Abraham) and the people called Jews today. But we can establish for you clearly apart from these phases of identity that Jesus Christ is not a Jew, or else all the foundations of Christianity have been wasted upon something that is fatuous and that has no foundation whatsoever. We will also establish this very clearly for you on the basis of Christ’s time, as well as facts which are self-evident as key points within the faith of Christianity.

I tell you that I am not following the Jew: I am following the Incarnate Revelation of The Most High. Before you ask me, Is Jesus Christ a Jew? I ask you this question: Is Yahweh a Jew? We have Jesus’ own words in Matt. 23:33 in which He turned and told the Jews that they are serpents and a generation of vipers. He was not talking about the symbol of Lucifer’s kingdom. He said they are Lucifer’s descendants. I want to emphasize the fact that one of the first things that Jesus did in that conversation was to deny any family relationship. (This is also one of the important records of the book of John.) He denied any relationship with them, and in the instance when they were creating great pressures upon Him, Jesus made this statement: “I am of My Father, and you are of your father.” Therefore, I want to point out something that is most significant concerning Christ. First, let us go to Isaiah 7:14, and read what it says about His birth. “Therefore Yahweh Himself the Eternal One shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His Name Immanuel” (which is “Yahweh with us “).
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We discover the fact in the book of Luke that Mary was of the house of Levi. The house of Levi was not Jew. The house of Levi could never be called Jews by anybody, nor could Judah be called Jewish, nor can you call the other ten tribes Jews by any stretch of the imagination, for they were not identified with the Kingdom of Judah. Jews are trying to identify themselves with the house of Abraham by saying they are Judeans, and that they descended from Judah. They only dwelt in the land of Judea, but they were never citizens of the house of Abraham, nor did they come through Judah.

An even more insane and hateful diatribe is Bible Believers Jesus Was NOT a Jew by Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Historian - Researcher - Scholar. This is followed by an article by by Jason Collett, a Holocaust denier, with the customary citations to The Journal of Historical Review of the 1980s-1990s, a racist and anti-Semitic publication with which David Irving was closely associated.

Edit: *Getting the name right is important. Once a Methodist minister, Wesley Swift started his own church, the Church of Jesus Christ Christian. Many of us know where that went:
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He was active in extreme right-wing groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, and developed a close friendship with prominent postwar anti-Semite, Gerald L. K. Smith. Because of the activities of Swift and associates such as Bertrand Comparet and San Jacinto Capt, Christian Identity increasingly became linked with extreme right-wing ideologies. Richard Girnt Butler‎, founder of the Aryan Nations‎, was a close California disciple of Swift.

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Oh, this should be good. Tracy's going to D.C. to confront him?? She is really getting desperate for attention, isn't she? I think she might end up getting the kind of attention that no one wants.


The internet should record a noticeable drop in volume if she's offline for a few days.

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Just a note to TomTech (who says he'll be here all day) -- if you want people to respond to your PMs you have to accept PMs.

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The internet should record a noticeable drop in volume and an uptick in quality if she's offline for a few days.


FIFY. :D

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Oh, this should be good. Tracy's going to D.C. to confront him?? She is really getting desperate for attention, isn't she? I think she might end up getting the kind of attention that no one wants.


The internet should record a noticeable drop in volume if she's offline for a few days.


How much you wanna bet she brings a video camera along?

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With these guys, close doesn't count. Being 100 percent German as far back as we can trace, I'm lucky with my blond hair, blue eyes and skin so white I make albinos seem tanned by comparison, I met these folks criteria for "white." Those with southern Euopean backgrounds like Italians are really big ? when it comes to the "are they white?" question.

This "Nordic race," the greatest of all white Caucasian races, soon became the basis for Hitler's concept of the Master Race. Much of his ideology, especially that of eugenics, was imported directly from the U.S.

Found on a link on Free Republic, an article in the Jerusalem Post that tells much of the ugly story of the U.S. eugenics movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries (expiring only with World War II).

Jerusalem Post Wednesday Feb 01, 2012 Eugenics, euthanasia and American race improvement by David Turner. Emphasis in the original.
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Eugenics “ideal” for America’s racial stock was the Nordic blue-eyed, blond-haired Aryan. The “unfit” included the “feeble minded,” homosexuals; persons evidencing criminal traits, alcoholism, blindness, deafness, schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder and a wide range of “mental illnesses.” To eugenicists even “laziness” was understood as a genetic trait to be eliminated from the race.

Also slated for elimination were “emancipated Negroes, immigrant Asian laborers, Indians, Hispanics, East Europeans, Jews, dark- haired hill folk, poor people, the infirm and anyone classified outside the gentrified genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists.” To secure the racial stock eugenics promoted strengthening existing laws prohibiting sexual contact between whites and non-whites (miscegenation). Race-segregated population centers was another humane option. As regards the Jews, at least in the years before National Socialism in Germany, eugenics promoted anti-immigration laws, which were discussed last week.

But there was another instrument of racial cleansing that, while not formally legal, was still selectively applied.

Euthanasia and the “unfit”: Eighteen solutions were explored in a Carnegie-supported 1911 Preliminary Report of the Committee of the Eugenic Section of the American Breeder's Association to Study and to Report on the Best Practical Means for Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm in the Human Population. Point No. 8 was euthanasia.

The American eugenics movement fed directly into Nazi "science" and ideology. Turner notes that his focus on the U.S. is not because he holds that the U.S. is more guilty than France, Germany, or Hungary. He sees the guilt of the U.S. for the Holocaust as being an act of omission, not of commission: had it wished to do so, the U.S. could have provided the Jews of Europe a place of refuge, something that it had done for other peoples. Europe killed the Jews, not America. But if the pro-Nazis Henry Ford or Charles Lindbergh had decided to run for President and had defeated FDR, what would have happened with eugenics and euthanasia in the U.S.? I would add, what would have happened to the American role in Europe? I know that electing Ford or Lindbergh would not have happened. At least I think that I know that.

As would be expected, the Freepers turn this sordid bit of U.S. history into an attack on a woman's right to choose and Planned Parenthood.

More about the American Eugenics Society is on the Web, including this annotated image archive. This article is part of a series that I intend to follow.

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A couple of things that came down my scribd feed. I don't know if these items have been posted or not, so I'm just gonna post them here.

nolu chan added a bunch of stuff to his account including the Petition for Rehearing en Banc (15 Jan 2012) for Drake v. Obama, and the Order for Dismissal that followed. We knew about that. It was just one line. And this funny screencap:


[imgwidth=]http://htmlimg1.scribdassets.com/27m09el8e81drl2k/images/1-7e424a53b3.jpg[/imgwidth]

Here's nolu's scribd account:
http://www.scribd.com/nolu%20chan

I wonder where he's writing? I wish he'd post in the 'pimp your blog' topic.



From Chris Strunk in esse scribd account. :roll:

This is new. Surprisingly it's only 11 pages long.
Strunk Complaint and Demand for Eligibility Hearing on BHO II in New York
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80418612/Stru ... n-New-York

edit. to add the line I musta deleted at some point. lol

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