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IIRC, somebody here got an email from Susan Daniels where she shed all pretenses and her racism was right out there.

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So, is it correct to say that those three morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink thier case in a real court of law?


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Asskins is posturing so he can call Orly out as incompetent when he gets to say, "You should have took the default and shut your trap, and now the judge [sic] went and ruled against you - hahahaha!"

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So, is it correct to say that those three morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink thier case in a real court of law?


Yes. It could have also been put in the record on judicial notice, but this spares everyone the legal legerdemain.

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So, is it correct to say that those three morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink thier case in a real court of law?


Exactly!

But it doesn't matter, cuz, based on the brief record they presented, they still get a default judgment based on that same record.

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IIRC, somebody here got an email from Susan Daniels where she shed all pretenses and her racism was right out there.


Yep. IIRC Sequoia had an exchange of emails with Daniels.


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I think the judge told the lawyers that he was noting that the defense was absent and lost their chance to object in court, that he was entering that into the record. That's what Deano must have been talking about.

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just got off the phone with Dean Haskins who was in the courtroom this morning assisting with the Art 2Pac live stream. Judge Malihi talked to the attorneys in chambers before the hearing this morning and told them that he was going to enter a DEFAULT JUDGMENT against Obama and recommend that Obama's name not be on the Georgia ballot!


and this is how sweet sweet birfer tears are made ...

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Perhaps he didi tell them due to Jablonski not showing he was going to make a recommendation to not leave him on the ballot... who knows. We'll see.

I won't be surprised if this is what he told them and he would allow them to put a brief presentation of their "evidence" in the record. That would explain why Irion and Hatfield were so brief and why the judge got testy with Orly when she started up the video of the life and times of Obama at the beginning, and throughout.

I think the guy thinks he's calling Jablonski's bluff. If that's true, Jablonski would have done better to have the case removed.

Edit: Add to that. Orly was absolutely giddy when she came out from the judge's chambers.


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So, is it correct to say that those three morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink thier case in a real court of law?


No, it is correct to say that two of the morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink their case.

In fairness to Orly, she isn't the one who was stupid enough to submit the PDF birth certificates & stipulate to their authenticity. Though as Stern has noted, she did fail to object when the others did.


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We need a smilie to depict sweet sweet birther tears

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I think the judge told the lawyers that he was noting that the defense was absent and lost their chance to object in court, that he was entering that into the record. That's what Deano must have been talking about.


Here's the thing: everyone's citing Dean as their source on this. Dean obviously wasn't in the judge's chambers, but there's no indication who HE heard it from. An attorney? A plaintiff? A spectator? The more removed this is from someone physically present in the room, the more it turns into a game of telephone.

Orly isn't talking like there's a default, and the other attorneys left after the break. So unless he got the information from Orly, Dean 'knew' this when the hearings ended. And we all spoke to Dean, and he didn't say anything about a default.

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Please tell me STRUNK, CHRISTOPHER is going all Sov Cit on us. . . please. . .


Orly kicked him off in less than 60 seonds, no Sov Cit goodness alas


If Orly is to be believed, she she spent over $8000 dollars to bring Daniels, Strunk, Jordan, Vogt, Chito and Sampson to testify for a few minutes each. I certainly don't think she got her money's worth.

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Dean certainly thinks that's what happened... it's posted everywhere.

I can see being told you win, and as they report Van Irion and Hatfield stated, we'd like to make a brief record, but in my day the judge would have called the court reporter in and done so in chambers... a sort of proffer.

OR even if done in open court, a brief statement, submit on our papers, and the judge would have ruled from the bench.

I don' think he can enter a "default judgment" (at least no according to his task in this matter) but rather a recommendation Perhaps he didi tell them due to Jablonski not showing he was going to make a recommendation to not leave him on the ballot... who knows. We'll see.


My guess would be one of the birfer lawyers 'suggested' that Malihi find for a default judgement, since they all still think this was a judicial hearing. And Malihi probably held his tongue and said something like "we'll see", which is good enuf in BirferLaw.

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The ALJ does not have the power to enter a JUDGMENT period, much less a default judgment. The ALJ, who is operating solely by reference from the Secretary of State, can only issue a RECOMMENDATION. The ultimate decision is up to the Secretary of State, and even that is not a judgment as such.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. The Secretary of State does not even enter a judgment. His decision is an agency final determination.

Only a court of law can grant judgments.

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So, is it correct to say that those three morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink thier case in a real court of law?


No, it is correct to say that two of the morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink their case.

In fairness to Orly, she isn't the one who was stupid enough to submit the PDF birth certificates & stipulate to their authenticity. Though as Stern has noted, she did fail to object when the others did.


Orly did enter the president's passport, fom the white house site. It was above the picture of the 2 boys in 3rd grade.

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Okay, back to my computer for the short take. I’m not sure how much of this has already been posted. There are about 20 pages of posts so I’ll just give a quick rundown

Orly was wearing her black lawyer suite with the short skirt. I couldn’t see her feet, but I did see mass black roots on the back of her head. In person it appears that she cakes as much makeup on her face as she does on her eyes.

All of the attorneys were called to the Judges chambers before the hearing began. They were in there for nearly 30 minutes. When they returned Orly seemed happy and was smiling. She then went into a huddle with her witnesses.

The first two cases focused only on 2-citizen parent thing. Establishing the uncontested fact that Obama’s father was not a citizen. When they were both finished with their cases and Orly got up, they all stood up and left the courtroom.

Orly started with her zibits and the Judge told her “we don’t need to see all that, just put it in your written brief. (Or maybe he said summary) And then at one point had to tell her “Don’t address the audience, address the court”. She got lost several times with her zibits, and spent a lot of time telling (who ever was driving her computer) Up, up, up, more, no down, go down, more, oh there, no, go back up etc..

She was very fidgety IMO, and not very organized. She had been given 2 hours and seemed to be trying to cut corners to make it all fit. And the more corners she cut the less sense it made and the Judge seemed to be trying to hurry her ass up.

Throughout the testimony of her “expert witnesses” the Judge kept telling her to ask them questions, not to make statements. The Judge seemed annoyed and anxious to have it all over with. At one point with Vogt Orly seemed to be desperately trying to lead him to say what she wanted him to say. I don’t think he could figure out what the hell she wanted when she was talking about the lines on the BC not curving correctly or some such crap.

I’m not sure what this was supposed to prove, but she had 2 pictures and it was difficult to see, and I think they were both supposed to be of young Obama. She said one was Barry Soetoro in Indonesia, and the other Barry Obama in Hawaii as if they were two separate people and said that we didn’t even know which one was which. (?) I guess suggesting that the one we got wasn’t really the real Obama.

When she was jabbering before her closing statement the Judge asked her if she was testifying. She put her hand up and said she would like to testify and plowed her way up front to be sworn in. Everyone laughed. At this point I was worried about Stern falling out of his chair.

In her closing statement she did ask the Judge to hold Obama and Jablonski in contempt of court for not showing up, and asked him for the letters rogatory. She said that she had tried to get Hawaii and the SSA to produce the original documents but was unsuccessful.

After it was over Orly bellied up in front of the bank of cameras at the back to give her interviews. Most of which I couldn’t hear but what I did sounded like standard tripe.

W4 took very good notes and will probably be able to fill in a lot of the holes. Dr C is planning a post later this afternoon as well.

So there you have it. :mrgreen:

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For what it's worth, I read that in 2010, Brian Kemp wasn't going out of his way to court the tea party.
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Please tell me STRUNK, CHRISTOPHER is going all Sov Cit on us. . . please. . .


Orly kicked him off in less than 60 seonds, no Sov Cit goodness alas


If Orly is to be believed, she she spent over $8000 dollars to bring Daniels, Strunk, Jordan, Vogt, Chito and Sampson to testify for a few minutes each. I certainly don't think she got her money's worth.


And that was just airfare. This cost Orly at least $15,000. Which is one of the reasons why she went batshit on one of her own witnesses.

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So, is it correct to say that those three morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink thier case in a real court of law?


No, it is correct to say that two of the morons entered into the record the very evidence that will sink their case.

In fairness to Orly, she isn't the one who was stupid enough to submit the PDF birth certificates & stipulate to their authenticity. Though as Stern has noted, she did fail to object when the others did.


With the full knowledge that "appropriate" is difficult to define in the context of today's hearings, would it have been appropriate for Orly to say anything at all while the first two lawyers were presenting their cases?


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A plaintiff's* reaction from over at Squeeky's:

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We have won our case. The Judge is going to declare a default judgement against Obama. In order for Obama to get his name on the Georgia ballot, he will have to actually sue the Secretary of State and win on appeal — not likely.
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Please tell me STRUNK, CHRISTOPHER is going all Sov Cit on us. . . please. . .


Orly kicked him off in less than 60 seonds, no Sov Cit goodness alas


If Orly is to be believed, she she spent over $8000 dollars to bring Daniels, Strunk, Jordan, Vogt, Chito and Sampson to testify for a few minutes each. I certainly don't think she got her money's worth.


Yes, but we did .....at her expense.....in entertainment value.

How about all those who donated for the streaming video and got little more than a long distance and intermittent view and sound that was like a signal that had been transmitted through suboceanic cables that had not been maintained in over a hundred years. It sounded like a foreign language being spoken where you got one or two words now and then but had to guess at the rest. However, we know the spiel so well, I don't think we missed anything being presented for the first time. Only the venue was new.

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and this is how sweet sweet birfer tears are made ...


...and next to the storage vats we see the echo chambers where birfers are given false hope in order to enhance the sweetness of their eventual tears...

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He is Orly's client. [-(

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A plaintiff's* reaction from over at Squeeky's:

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January 26th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
We have won our case. The Judge is going to declare a default judgement against Obama. In order for Obama to get his name on the Georgia ballot, he will have to actually sue the Secretary of State and win on appeal — not likely.
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