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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:51 pm 
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Okay, I read the World Nut Daily article, which is basically an extended tirade over the fact that Girl Scouts of America partners with Planned Parenthood to cover matters of health education to teen girls. This equates to OMGWTFBBQ THE GIRL SCOUTS ARE ABORTING BABIES!! in the minds of World Nut Daily.

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"Proof of the strong links can be found by looking no further than the statements of Girl Scout CEO Kathy Cloninger, who told NBC's "Today" show in an interview in 2004: "We partner with many organizations. We have relationships with our church communities, with YWCAs, and with Planned Parenthood organizations across the country, to bring information-based sex education programs to girls."

There's additional documentation in printed materials provided by the Girl Scouts, although the statement from Cloninger remains sufficient for many parents. It comes on the heels of WND's exposure of Girl Scouts' promotion of lesbian causes."


"On the heels of" means "following a story World Nut Daily published on 17 May 2009". It seems that two years is "on the heels of" according to World Nut Daily.

They then bring up groups like the Catholic "Little Flowers Girls Club", and the GSA off-shoot "American Heritage Girls". I've read about AHG before.

Basically AHG is a group founded in 1995 by people upset that the Girl Scouts were being more inclusive about things like sexuality and religion at the same time the Boy Scouts of America were being exclusive. Result:

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"Although Garibay did try to make changes on the local and national level regarding the decision, she was not successful. She started looking for something new for her daughters. Something new became the American Heritage Girls, an organization dedicated to "building women of integrity through service to God, family, community and country."

American Heritage Girls now has over 13,000 members in 41 states."


So in 16 years, AHG has 13,000 members. Girl Scouts of America has 3.2 million, down from 3.8 million in 2004. (BSA has also seem a similar drop, since it seems many tweens and teens are just not interested in Scouting anymore.)

And for those who think that American Heritage Girls are too wishy-washy namby-pamby secular, there's also "Little Keepers at Home" Not to mention the "Pioneers Clubs", and GEMS, or "Girls Everywhere Meeting the Savior"

Basically World Nut Daily has a jihad against Girl Scouts because they're not the bigoted homophobes that have taken over Boy Scouts of America

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:24 pm 
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PatGund wrote:
Basically World Nut Daily has a jihad against Girl Scouts because they're not the bigoted homophobes that have taken over Boy Scouts of America


Gee. Thanks for that information. I had just presumed they were the same. Now I can buy their cookies without ANY guilt! (Other than gluttony, of course).

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Gee. Thanks for that information. I had just presumed they were the same. Now I can buy their cookies without ANY guilt! (Other than gluttony, of course).


*chuckle*

It's actually a common confusion. A lot of people think that the same people run Boy Scouts of America and Girl Scouts of America. When in fact, they're two separate groups. And GSA has considerably different policies than the BSA does when it comes to religion and sexuality.

And that's part of World Nut Daily and other far-right groups' problem with the Girl Scouts - because they're not a cookie-cutter clone of BSA with the word "Boy" replaced with "Girl". And they have a different view of what Scouting is than the people who run BSA.

At the start of the summer, Me, my spouse, and our daughter went up to Peace Arch State / Provencial Park for "Hands Across the Border", a scouting event celebrating the ties between Canada and the United States.

There were Girl Scouts of America, Girl Guides of Canada (My spouse was a Guide in the UK, so she was delighted by that), Scouts Canada (which is open to boys and girls), Campfire (also open to boys and girls).....and a relatively small number of Boy Scouts of America and Cub Scouts. Many of whom had leaders who seemed lost.

I have to wonder if the lost look was due to seeing boys and girls wearing a simular uniform, doing the same activities, and following the same Scouts Law that BSA professes to follow - and yet not having a problem with that scout's gender, religion or lack thereof, or sexuality. How do you explain to the kids that someone can't be a good scout if they're gay, or an atheist - when a step across the border shows the kids otherwise

I'm a former Boy Scout myself. And I'm rather glad I have a daughter, because I wouldn't want a son to be a Boy Scout in today's organization. I wish there was a better alternative for boys in this country.

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A rant about the religious right, discrimination, World Nut Daily, cookie boycotts, and a scout who may not be a scout.

The Anti-Girl Scout Jihad

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They should start coming around with the order forms any time. :cheer: Then it seems like they always deliver them the first week of Lent! :((


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So, the half-wits at wnd have a problem that the GSA isn't regressive enough?

In my book, that makes the GSA an excellent organization. I buy their cookies at work and when they come around the house.


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Good coverage of a timely issue, Pat.

FWIW, there's a diary up at D'Kos this afternoon on the same topic.

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I usually don't buy the GS cookies. After this I will.

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I usually don't buy the GS cookies. After this I will.


Damn. Me too. It's a rough job scarfing down samoas but if it pisses off wnd my ass will have to deal.

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I usually don't buy the GS cookies. After this I will.


Damn. Me too. It's a rough job scarfing down samoas but if it pisses off wnd my ass will have to deal.


Save room for when you come visit after they're delivered. There are two girl scouts across the street and I just can never turn them down. I have cut back to a dozen boxes or so though. :lol:

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They should start coming around with the order forms any time. :cheer: Then it seems like they always deliver them the first week of Lent! :((


Orders start the 29th of January :-)

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i FULLY SUPPORT THE BOYCOTT!

leaves more Thin Mints for me :xo

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Girl Scout Cookies?? There's an app for that

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/girl-sco ... 42982?mt=8

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It looks like the "Taylor" in the video is the daughter of the couple who started the "Honest Girl Scouts" smear site.

Unmasked! Anti-LGBT Group Behind Girl Scout Cookie Boycott

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"It seems the parents who run a ludicrous, anti-women, anti-LGBT, anti-American, anti-Girl Scouts group called ”Honest Girl Scouts” are using their own 14-year old daughter to wage war on the Girl Scouts for the appropriate and harmless inclusion of a seven-year old transgender girl in a scout troop in Colorado.
(The transgender girl, Bobby Montoya, was first told she couldn’t join, then the Scouts changed their minds.)

Taylor — who won’t give her last name — unleashed an almost eight-minute self-righteous, bigoted, and ignorant video essentially claiming that the seven-year old transgender girl was a physical threat to other girl scouts. She mention her parents in the video, though not by name, and directs viewers to the website, “Honest Girl Scouts.” Watch this vile video below.

But if “Honest Girl Scouts” are so honest, why are they hiding who they are? Their domain, registered in 2010, says it’s owned by “The Universe.” Have they have fraudulently registered their domain, a violation, if I’m not mistaken, of ICAAN rules? And there is no mention on the site of who runs it. (I’ve started an investigation with the domain registrar to request they look into what seems to be a fraudulent registration. See update below.)"

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Yeah, they locked out rating and comments last night, and made it private today.

Can we say "cowards?"

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This seems to be more of a Right Wing Jihad anymore.

The New Civil Rights Movement - GOP Congressmen Thwart Democrat’s Girl Scout Cookie Boycott Inquiry

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"Igor Volsky at Think Progress notes that Johnson “sought to challenge the Family Research Council’s campaign to link the Girl Scouts to abortion and the ‘homosexual‘ agenda, during Tuesday’s House Judiciary Committee hearing on contraception, but was repeatedly rebuffed by Republicans on the panel:

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“I love thin mints, Girl Scout cookies, what’s your gripe about Girl Scout cookies,” Johnson asked Jeanne Monahan of Family Research Council — who was testifying on behalf of the organization — in the middle of a discussion about religious conscience and birth control. Monahan tried to dismiss the question, but Johnson persisted: “Your organization has sponsored a prayer vigil to stop people from buying Girl Scout cookies, because you allege Girl Scout cookies is affiliated with Planned Parenthood, isn’t that correct?”


Those who are familiar with House and Senate committee hearings will agree that this Republican roadblocking was not normal, showing how frustrated the GOP has become with their failed attempts to take American back to a mythical 1950′s.


Salon - The Girl Scout haters’ biggest mistake

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"Now, a Catholic church in Virginia has banned Girl Scout meetings and Girl Scout uniforms from the church and its affiliated school, and in January the Family Research Council’s president and resident, dedicated witch hunter called for a boycott of Girl Scout cookies. These aren’t the first instances of conservative anti-Girl Scout hysteria based in misinformation, and, unfortunately, they’re unlikely to be the last. Past its false premises, condemnation of the Girl Scouts shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how the organization works. Most important, it betrays an ideological hypocrisy on the right – one that conservatives seem to be leaning on with ever greater zeal."


North Jersey.com - Girl Scouts steer away from political crossfire

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"How does an apolitical non-profit, devoted to a charitable mission of encouraging self-esteem and leadership traits in girls, deal with being attacked for promoting social and political goals it has never espoused?

That's a question officers of the Girl Scouts of the USA have been forced to address in an America riven by political extremes.

Social conservative groups from Colorado to Virginia accuse the organization of promoting abortion and homosexuality. A state lawmaker in Indiana, after doing "some research on the Internet" called the Scouts a "radicalized" group that "sexualizes" young girls and refused to vote for a resolution saluting it on its 100th birthday — which is today.

The antiabortion Family Research Council in Washington has even called for a boycott of Girl Scout cookies, claiming that the organization is affiliated with Planned Parenthood."


The Mary Sue - ARE THE GIRL SCOUTS REALLY A BUNCH OF RADICAL PINKOS? MAYBE COMPARED TO THE BOY SCOUTS…

Personally I suspect part of the far right hatred of Girl Scouts stems not just from the "War against Women" they seem to be fighting right now, but also the fact that the Girl Scouts have been more accepting and inclusive than BSA has become. Girl Scouts doesn't worry if a scout is an atheist, or a lesbian, or any such nonsense. Their concern is are they living by the scout law and promise. Whereas BSA, due to the heavy influence that LDS and fundamentalist groups has over their organization, has become far more discriminatory.

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From the state that gave you Sarah palin...

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/ ... rl-scouts/

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Last week, the Alaska legislature was set to take up and pass a presumably non-controversial resolution honoring the Girl Scouts for its 100 years of service. But Rep. Wes Keller (R-Wasilla), vice chairman of the House State Affairs Committee, refused to give his assent.

Interrogating the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Bettye Davis (D-Anchorage), Keller referenced “information that’s floating around the internet” to demand whether there’s a connection between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood. “Is there not?” Keller wondered. “Frankly, I haven’t looked into it, but I see it’s out there. I just wondered if you want to make a statement on that.”

Davis was rightly bewildered by the false right-wing internet meme. “I would like for you to give the information you’re referring to because I don’t even know what you’re talking about,” Davis said. Keller proceeded to announce that “he was going to hold up the resolution until he got answers,” but he assured Davis he did not want to be “the death knell” for the resolution honoring the Girl Scouts.


Hi I've read something on the internet about something and I'd like you to comment on it. *sits back*

And yes, theres video

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[quote="Suranis"]From the state that gave you Sarah palin...

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/ ... rl-scouts/

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Last week, the Alaska legislature was set to take up and pass a presumably non-controversial resolution honoring the Girl Scouts for its 100 years of service.But Rep. Wes Keller (R-Wasilla), vice chairman of the House State Affairs Committee, refused to give his assent.

Interrogating the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Bettye Davis (D-Anchorage), Keller referenced “information that’s floating around the internet” to demand whether there’s a connection between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood. “Is there not?” Keller wondered. “Frankly, I haven’t looked into it, but I see it’s out there. I just wondered if you want to make a statement on that.”

Davis was rightly bewildered by the false right-wing internet meme. “I would like for you to give the information you’re referring to because I don’t even know what you’re talking about,” Davis said. Keller proceeded to announce that “he was going to hold up the resolution until he got answers,” but he assured Davis he did not want to be “the death knell” for the resolution honoring the Girl Scouts.


Hi I've read something on the internet about something and I'd like you to comment on it. *sits back*

And yes, theres video

www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com
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You mean the TOWN that gave Sarah Palin. Quite frankly those people don't eat enough brain food to be viable.

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It looks like American Heritage Girls have dropped all pretense of being anything other than a right-wing Christian group.

Case in point, their Statement of Faith

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"American Heritage Girls is a Christ-centered leadership and character development ministry."


And their "vision":

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"AHG Vision:

"American Heritage Girls is the premier national character development organization for young women that embraces Christian values and encourages family involvement."


Their Executive Committee is entirely male BTW, as are half their members at large.

Oh, and on 12 June 2009, the Boy Scouts of American and American Heritage Girls signed a "Memorandum of Mutual Support" (PDF)

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"American Heritage Girls provides Boy Scouts of America Troops with a complete and established program for girls that compliment the BSA mission."

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