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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:15 am 
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Does that defy basic logic? I don’t think so. If you knew anything about Constitutional and statutory construction, you’d realize that it’s in your beloved adopted Constitution. So let’s try a simpler analogy. It’s kind of like how a football referee can’t assess a 15-yard penalty for celebrating in the end zone after the game is over. But if the celebration gets way out of hand, you can call the cops, but not the referee. OK?


BEAUTIFUL analogy, Piffle!

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Paul Pieniezny wrote:
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Just for the sake of argument, how is Obama ineligible to be a Senator?


Orly has not seen the naturalization papers either. So Obama must be an illegal alien.

That makes nr 6 even gemmier, of course. Another case, wrong jurisdiction and a completely different legal argument. But Orlylaw allows it.

The Maid of Orlyans mistakenly attacking the Burgundians rather than the English. Which state will turn out to be her Compiègne? :twisted:


Orly missed class the day when they talked about you cannot raise new issues in an appeal, right?


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Orly missed class the day year when they talked about you cannot raise new issues in an appeal anything related to the actual practice of law, right?


FIFY

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:05 pm 
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Also, too, isn't Kreep now representing Keyes?

Why is she making arguments invovling a plaintiff she does not represent?


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Also, too, isn't Kreep now representing Keyes?

Kreep represents Drake and Robinson.

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Orly missed class the day when they talked about you cannot raise new issues in an appeal, right?


Was there ever such a day. Maybe Taft sent her a written task per e-mail and it got stuck in her yahoo.

I am not a lawyer, but even I can see that the only connection between 6) and her original case is the names of the plaintiff and the defendant.

Orly has the gall to call herself a human rights defender but does not notice that what she is proposing here would constitute a serious infraction of human rights, since she is the fu..ing plaintiff in this case! "Oh wait, I cannot get you on account of A because the judge says I was not harmed on A. No problem, I will appeal and get you on account of B."

The real problem is how could someone with so liitle logical sense, ever pass a Bar exam that is reputed to be so difficult?

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Also, too, isn't Kreep now representing Keyes?

Kreep represents Drake and Robinson.


I should have known that.

This begs the question. Keyes is insane but is a reasonably intelligent man. Does he even know that an incompetent attorney is filing appeals for him right now? When was the last time Keyes commented on these cases?


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When was the last time Keyes commented on these cases?

Keyes' current-but-not-totally-current site has full-steam-ahead birthing on it.

I wonder if birthers (including Keyes) have figured out that they need a birther candidate on the ballot for even a hope to litigate birther suits past the primaries?

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WND: California judges use 1-liner on eligibility case
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9th Circuit on petition for rehearing: 'Denied'

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals responded to an appeal of a challenge to Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president with one word: “Denied.”

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The court today said, “The petitions for panel rehearing and rehearing en bank filed by Plaintiffs-Appellants Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson are denied.”

Kreep's clients.

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WND: California judges use 1-liner on eligibility case
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9th Circuit on petition for rehearing: 'Denied'

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals responded to an appeal of a challenge to Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president with one word: “Denied.”

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The court today said, “The petitions for panel rehearing and rehearing en bank filed by Plaintiffs-Appellants Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson are denied.”

Kreep's clients.


=)) =)) =)) What a week!

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Here's the 1-pager, ironically stamped 2/2. Groundhog's Day, again. File, appeal, denined. Repeat.

http://usjf.net/wp-content/uploads/2012 ... 2-2012.pdf

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As Tes would say... for *completeness* ;)

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09/10/2010 126 ORDER from 9th CCA filed re: Notice of Appeal to 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, 109 filed by Robert Lee Perry, Robin D Biron, John Bruce Steidel, Alan Keyes PhD, Douglas Earl Stoeppelwerth, Julliett Ireland, Charles Crusemire, Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, D Andrew Johnson, Pamela Barnett, Loretta G Bosley, David Smithey, Kurt C Fuqua, Richard Norton Bauerbach, Thomas S Davidson, Frank Niceley, Harry Riley, David L Bosley, Timothy Comerford, Clint Grimes, Timothy Jones, Cynthia Davis, Mark Wriggle, Eric Swafford, Jennifer Leah Clark, Jason Freese, Glenn Casada, David Fullmer LaRoque, Richard E Venable, Steven Kay Neuenschwander, Israel D Jones, Jeff Graham Winthrope, Gail Lightfoot, Neil B Turner, Harry G Butler, John D Blair, David Grant Mosby, Lita M Lott, Matthew Michael Edwards, Notice of Appeal to 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, 94 filed by Markham Robinson, Wiley S Drake, CCA # 09-56827, 10-. Appellees' motion for an extension of time to file the answering brief is granted. The answering brief is due October 13, 2010. The optional reply brief is due within 14 days after service of the answering brief. Order received in this district on 9/28/2010. (lr) (Entered: 10/04/2010)

02/02/2012 127 ORDER from 9th CCA filed re: Notice of Appeal to 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, 94 filed by Markham Robinson, Wiley S Drake, CCA # 09-56827. The petition for rehearing en banc filed by Plaintiff's Appellants Alan Keyes et al. (Dkt. No. 61) is DENIED. Order received in this district on 2/2/12. (car) (Entered: 02/08/2012)

02/10/2012 128 MANDATE of 9th CCA filed re: Notice of Appeal to 9th Circuit Court of Appeals 94 CCA # 09-56827. The decision of the district court is affirmed. Appellants' emergency petition for writ of mandamus, filed November 8, 2011, is denied. Mandate received in this district on 2/10/2012. (dmap); Modified on 2/16/2012 (dmap). (Entered: 02/16/2012)

02/15/2012 129 MANDATE of 9th CCA filed re: Notice of Appeal to 9th Circuit Court of Appeals,, 109 , Notice of Appeal to 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, 94 , CCA # 09-56827, 10-55084. The Judgment of the district court is Affirmed. Mandate received in this district on 2/15/12. (car) (Entered: 02/17/2012)


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Kreep has taken his case to the Supreme Court. See docket entry below:

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No. 11-1225
Title:
Alan Keyes, et al., Petitioners
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Barack H. Obama, President of the United States, et al.
Docketed: April 12, 2012
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Case Nos.: (09-56827)
Decision Date: December 22, 2011
Rehearing Denied: February 2, 2012

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Apr 10 2012 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due May 14, 2012)


The pleading is available at Kreep's website


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Kreep has taken his case to the Supreme Court. See docket entry below:

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No. 11-1225
Title:
Alan Keyes, et al., Petitioners
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Barack H. Obama, President of the United States, et al.
Docketed: April 12, 2012
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Case Nos.: (09-56827)
Decision Date: December 22, 2011
Rehearing Denied: February 2, 2012

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Apr 10 2012 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due May 14, 2012)


The pleading is available at Kreep's website



hahaha gl with that! :lol:

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4) BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (hereinafter referred to as “OBAMA”),purported President of the United States, Defendant-Respondent


Word has it that Kreep is a purported human being.

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Perhaps it's my old age and short memory, but since when does Kreep represent Keyes? Did he steal Orly's "client"? :P

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Kreep states that Keyes was added to the Taitz complaint along with Drake and Robinson without their consent. I had heard that claim made about Drake and Robinson but not Keyes. Is this new information? I know later Orly tried to remove Drake and Robinson when she filed an amended complaint.

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Kreep states that Keyes was added to the Taitz complaint along with Drake and Robinson without their consent. I had heard that claim made about Drake and Robinson but not Keyes. Is this new information? I know later Orly tried to remove Drake and Robinson when she filed an amended complaint.


I never heard that brought up while the cases were in the lower courts. IIRC only Drake and Robinson were named in Kreep's appeals and Keyes remained on Orly's.

Frankly, after Keyes v Bowen, I doubt Keyes even knew he was still a named party in any suit. :lol:

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Keyes is so crazy he'd never complain unless there was some risk of personal liability.

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Kreep states that Keyes was added to the Taitz complaint along with Drake and Robinson without their consent. I had heard that claim made about Drake and Robinson but not Keyes. Is this new information? I know later Orly tried to remove Drake and Robinson when she filed an amended complaint.

AFAIK this is new information. In any case, after making that claim, Kreep never again refers to his act of just adding Keyes to the list of petitioners on this request. Zero, zip, zilch, nada. He's just there by majik, I guess!

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Didn't Keyes show up at one or more of the hearings ... with The Obly and not associating with Kreep?

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Didn't Keyes show up at one or more of the hearings ... with The Obly and not associating with Kreep?


I don't remember Keyes ever being present at any of the hearings in Keyes (later, thanks to Orlylaw) Barnett v Obama.

I still don't think he knew he was a party to anything after Keyes v Bowen, and I'm not sure he even knew that was appealed.

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He has referred to Obly as his lawyer, but I don't know for how long. I forget when the big split happened.

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Reality Check wrote:
Kreep states that Keyes was added to the Taitz complaint along with Drake and Robinson without their consent. I had heard that claim made about Drake and Robinson but not Keyes. Is this new information? I know later Orly tried to remove Drake and Robinson when she filed an amended complaint.


That goes back to my original question. I could have sworn that at one point, Keyes went with Kreep.


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Didn't Keyes show up at one or more of the hearings ... with The Obly and not associating with Kreep?



Nope, Keyes was never at any of the hearings. However, he did have one or more TV interviews with Obly.

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Nope, Keyes was never at any of the hearings. However, he did have one or more TV interviews with Obly.


I've just been going down memory lane ... with your fine report at
Wavey Davey's belated report.
http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=4900&start=425#p59713

Drake was there ..http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7773&posts=8 -- which also said

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The case goes forward, and Markham and Wiley were reinstated with the attorney they requested, Gary Kreep.


VIDEO LINK: Plaintiff Dr. Alan Keyes' comments on today's proceedings begin at about 0:30
minutes on the clock (use slider to advance clock.) Dr. Keyes' comments continue until about
01:27 on the clock. Dr. Keyes discusses this matter and a variety of other topics .... and is
always interesting to hear. [ LInk goes to their front page ]

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