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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:29 am 
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You're going to need to bear with me, because this might be a little hard to follow.

I became curious about Duncan Sunahara when I learned that he is suing the Hawaii Department of Health in an attempt to gain access to his late sister's birth certificate. Fortunately, the modern age has brought us a partial cure for curiosity: Google. Unfortunately, Google might be raising more questions in this case than it answers. Some of these questions are troubling.

When I search for people by name, I usually put the full name in quotes to cut down on spurious results. Doing that for Duncan Sunahara yesterday was initially unhelpful, because the results were swamped by links to discussions about the new lawsuit. I didn't want to learn about the lawsuit. I wanted to learn about Duncan. Using the "custom search" settings in the Google sidebar, I restricted the search to eliminate results from 2012.

The first page of results contained a link to an eBay feedback profile for the user Tmi9. That profile turned up in the google hits because of a very strange bit of feedback left by Tmi9 for a seller. Instead of rating the seller, the feedback (left for the purchase of auction #160676686295) read "Please Send to Duncan Sunahara [REDACTED-md] ,Wahiawa HI 96786". The feedback was left on 24 November 2011. The item in question was a lot consisting of foreign currency - specifically, 100,000 Dinars (Iraqi, uncirculated). The price for the lot appears to have been $118.99 USD.

That one feedback entry is the only one that appears to have included directions that the item be shipped to Duncan Sunahara.

There are several other feedback entries for purchases of Iraqi Dinars during that period - in fact, it appears that eBay user Tmi9 spent approximately $1,200 USD purchasing Iraqi Dinars between 24 November 2011 and Christmas. It also appears that eBay user Tmi9 did not purchase any Iraqi Dinars prior to purchasing the lot that he had shipped to Sunahara.

Initially, I assumed that the Tmi9 eBay account was Duncan Sunahara's. I now believe that assumption was incorrect. Someone* pointed out to me that the Twitter account @Tmi9 appears to be owned by Gary Laconis.

A birther named Gary Laconis has been thanked by Orly Taitz for contributions on several occasions. Most recently, she thanked him and Dean Haskins on 8 September 2011 for their donations of $250.
:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=25293 :evil:

So, to summarize:
Someone (probably Gary Laconis) had an eBay seller send Duncan Sunahara at least one shipment of Iraqi Dinars.
Gary Laconis has provided financial support for birthers before.
That shipment of Iraqi Dinars was sent sometime around 24 November 2011.
Earlier that week, Dean Haskins was in Honolulu discussing vital records with Duncan Sunahara.
Somewhere around that time, Duncan Sunahara decided that obtaining a copy of his deceased sister's long form birth certificate was so important to him that it is worth litigating.

I am not going to draw any implications from that set of facts. I don't think I need to, to be honest. I think they paint a very intriguing picture all by themselves.


*if you want public credit, let me know.
Edit: Removed a redundant sentence.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:42 am 
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Mike, I love you. SRSLY, I love you like a brother from another mother. :hug:

Okay, that said, umm...you did set your alarm to get your obot ass out of bed and to the courthouse in time for the Orly-pa-luau, yes?

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Mike, I love you. SRSLY, I love you like a brother from another mother. :hug:

Okay, that said, umm...you did set your alarm to get your obot ass out of bed and to the courthouse in time for the Orly-pa-luau, yes?


I've got two kids to drop off at school before 8, so I damn well better not oversleep. But between the 14 year old, the 12 year old, the dog, and both cats I should have enough backup alarms.

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Hmmmm..... The Iraqi dinar scam is fairly common with those involved in the whole cRAP thing, as well as some of the Sovereign Citizen hucksters.

And we know that both groups have some cross-fertilization with the birthers.

I did find this entry at "kabbalahblog.info"

http://www.kabbalahblog.info/2009/02/kn ... he-crisis/

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duncan sunahara wrote @ February 17th, 2009 at 11:23 am

I think the worst is to come. For the people hardest hit food, water, and shelter will be things they pray for, like Jacob before he became Israel. People with land should let people learn how to farm without the dependancy of petrochemicals fetilizers, poisons, and geneticly modified organisms. Water should be conserved and desalination plants opened everywhere possible. Shelter can be as low tech as one can think., straw bale home, tents, ect… Man has made it without technology for since the begining of time. Only in the last 100 years has the average man become diconected from nature and dependant on this global economy. Love of your neigbor and this planet is the work at hand, not love of mammon. We must localize the issues and have the foresight to mend problem that are important, food, water, and shelter. Did Adam have money, tecnology or was he made to till the land.


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At this point, I'd like to publicly thank Tollie for his single-handed pursuit of this outrageous swindle, the Iraqi dinar scam. Without him, none of us would realize the potential implications of this transaction. I don't respond to everything Tollie posts -- I simply don't have the time -- but when that man writes, I read.

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Just to add a couple of bits of info:-

The address that Mike has redacted is the address of the Sunaharas were living at when Duncan's father died so it tends to confirm that this is "our" Duncan Sunahara.

I'm pretty confident of the identification of Tmi9 with Gary Laconis but be warned there is another Tmi9 out there - a couple of dog breeders in Utica NY who don't seem to have any political connections.

As well as being an Orly supporter Laconis seems to be a leading supporter of the Kingswood Tea Party TX they mention him as sponsor on a number of occasions so he may have reputation for someone who can be tapped for a contribution,

I've no idea whether the posting Pat quoted is our Duncan or not.

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It seems I may not have been so far off when I snarked:

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Hmmmmm :-k

I hope Duncan S has sussed out ahead of time where he might be able cash giant blowups of checks drawn on Haskins's bank......

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I'm pretty confident of the identification of Tmi9 with Gary Laconis but be warned there is another Tmi9 out there - a couple of dog breeders in Utica NY who don't seem to have any political connections.


I'm not sure if this is how a reliable source figured out that Tmi9 is probably Gary Laconis, but there is a Twitter account of that name associated with Laconis.

https://twitter.com/#!/tmi9

His small number of Tweets (21) are consistent with the birther of the same name.

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Yes Loh, that was the link that at least 3 of us (including you ) have found.

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He travels too:
http://articles.ktuu.com/2010-09-11/beck-and-palin_24129683
He was a ticket holder interviewed outside the Palin-Beck rally in Anchorage on 9/11/2010.

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“They do a lot of good things of a lot of people, so I'm just glad to support them -- glad to see that they are trying to do the right thing for the country,” said ticket holder Gary Laconis.


Let's follow the money trail further back from Laconis. Laconis -----> Kingwood Tea Party -----> Which kind of Tea Party? ------> Dick Armey? Kochs? Did they give themselves away with the dinar deal?

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IMO Kimba the dinar connection is more likely to point to the absence of a big money backer to this scam. This looks more like the work of small time con artists.

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okay.

tmi9 also purchased a lifesize cardboard obama off ebay, just like the one dean threw a shoe at in his video from the big hawaii investigation.

(I think duct tape penny, bad veterinarian of texas, was also on that hawaii trip.)

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IMO Kimba the dinar connection is more likely to point to the absence of a big money backer to this scam. This looks more like the work of small time con artists.

Well, Laconis is a machine dealer, like CNC machine's. Maybe he's self-funded. He has enough coin he could travel to Anchorage for the Beck-Palin 9/11/2010 fest. And he made himself available to the media. I just have a hunch there's at least one more step on the trail.


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Remember Deano's story of the trip, too.

He went to Hawaii, made the film we saw, cavorted with Sad Sadie Booth, and got nothing. Then he said he traveled to Arizona AND TEXAS for meetings with various high-ranking birthers. Following those meetings, he was sent back to Hawaii for more follow up. I think his sugar daddy is in Texas, whether it's Laconis or the Kochsuckers or whoever.

The dinars thing is a swindle, and Deano the Grifter would love every minute of it.

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This all makes sense, but there is something creepy here.

What are the odds that the brother of the person whose birth certificate has fascinated birthers for a while would be a sovereign citizen type?

I'm not suggesting anything sinister, but it's simply incredible that these orbits would intersect randomly.


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Myron wrote:
This all makes sense, but there is something creepy here.

What are the odds that the brother of the person whose birth certificate has fascinated birthers for a while would be a sovereign citizen type?

I'm not suggesting anything sinister, but it's simply incredible that these orbits would intersect randomly.


Disturbing hypothesis. What if the guy's a BIRTHER? (Conversion story?)

Edit: Or does being paid by a cadre of afterbirthers to file suit simply so Haskins & Co. can play games in their attempted setup of the President of the United States make him a birther?

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Myron wrote:
I'm not suggesting anything sinister, but it's simply incredible that these orbits would intersect randomly.

It's awesome. I think GG or Mike should try to have a casual convo with Duncan if he's at the hearing today. He'd spill his guts with little encouragement.


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jtmunkus wrote:
Myron wrote:
This all makes sense, but there is something creepy here.

What are the odds that the brother of the person whose birth certificate has fascinated birthers for a while would be a sovereign citizen type?

I'm not suggesting anything sinister, but it's simply incredible that these orbits would intersect randomly.


Disturbing hypothesis. What if the guy's a BIRTHER? (Conversion story?)


I'm fairly certain he's a Birther now. But I thought he might be a birther for pay.

I guess my question is, who initially raised the interest on Little Miss Sunahra's birth certificate? How did this even come to anyone's attention?

(I've long suspected that this is a huge Y2K-like scam, but I don't want to just start making random theories, lest I be as bad as Dean Haskins. I honestly don't even know where Dean Haskins came from. He seems to have recently taken the field with endless amounts of money and time - two entities that no other birthers have thus far had. I guess the question I have is: how long has Dean known Duncan Sunahara?)


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Taitz recently off handedly mentioned on her mess of a website that the Sunahara family had asked for a copy of the Sunahara infant's birth certificate. So Taitz knows about this (but is apparently not in the money stream).

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Taitz recently off handedly mentioned on her mess of a website that the Sunahara family had asked for a copy of the Sunahara infant's birth certificate. So Taitz knows about this (but is apparently not in the money stream).


Don't know that I would refer to ebay trading in Iraqi dinars as a "money stream".

Something about that whole, eh, "market" strikes me as un-American. Shouldn't these birthers and SovCits be investing here at home?

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According to this Freep post by Ladysforest:
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We had tried several attempts afterwards to engage Duncan, and to have him consider a trip to the Honolulu Dept. of Health to request Virginias’ birth certificate, but he never responded. Because he had never responded, I felt it would be too risky for Researcher to travel back to Honolulu in an attempt to convince Duncan in person. Then WND made a call to Mrs. Sunahara (Duncan’s mother) in mid-May 2011, and she told him flatly that they had no interest in trying to obtain Virginias’ birth documents.

At that point I felt it was likely a lost cause to involve the family.

Then Dean met Duncan, and ......

8 posted on 01/05/2012 1:39:49 PM PST by Ladysforest


Adding link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-blo ... 9136/posts

So, if this is accurate, sometime after mid-May 2011.

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I guess the question I have is: how long has Dean known Duncan Sunahara?)

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okay.

tmi9 also purchased a lifesize cardboard obama off ebay, just like the one dean threw a shoe at in his video from the big hawaii investigation.

(I think duct tape penny, bad veterinarian of texas, was also on that hawaii trip.)


Oh man, that was some bad acid, I'm having some seriously bad flashbacks.

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