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Postby Vice President Maru » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:06 pm

I'm a terrible softball player too, but I run hard and swing at anything and drop the ball and have a great time doing it while the rest of the team yells at me!

I get hit by the softballs and other players.

I can explain the infield fly rule.

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Postby Whatever4 » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:09 pm

What should we do now with this project? I'm feeling adrift.

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Postby mimi » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:33 pm

Fogbow is about debunking more than just the birth certificate lies.I think it will become clear in just a few days which way to go.Politifact, Factcheck, and a few others do debunk. But they often don't debunk much of the craziest stuff until it's already spread throughout Wingnuttia. O/T, but Charlie Kercher is really going to town with the layers thing. I didn't read the posts, just the comments sections:[/break1]blogspot.com/2011/04/new-wash-times-ad-whose-ct-social.html]http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-w ... ocial.htmlThen they posted a new entry. Looks like they're trying to figure out where to go next:[/break1]blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-releases-his-alleged-long-form.html]http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama ... -form.html

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Postby Foggy » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:38 pm

What should we do now with this project? I'm feeling adrift.

I apologize, W4. I've been swamped, and I'm about to get even MORE swamped. Mother's Day is a week from tomorrow.And I have a few things on the back burner that I can't make public yet. :-# :-$ We have almost nothing on Orly's page, and nothing at all on many of the Cast & Crew pages. Those still need a lot of work.Or if you have a hankerin' for a change of pace, see what you can do with the [link]ObamaFringe wiki,http://wiki.obamafringe.com/index.php?title=Main_Page[/link].
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Postby Foggy » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:30 pm

Cleaned up the Home Page a bit this afternoon. Didn't really delete anything, but moved stuff around. Example: the slideshow of the Bomford FKBC is now on the FKBCs page. I'll prob'ly find time to do some more work on the HPP ... and maybe the wiki ... while I'm recovering from this G-B crap.
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Postby verbalobe » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:17 am

Cleaned up the Home Page a bit this afternoon. Didn't really delete anything, but moved stuff around. Example: the slideshow of the Bomford FKBC is now on the FKBCs page. I'll prob'ly find time to do some more work on the HPP ... and maybe the wiki ... while I'm recovering from this G-B crap.

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I was reading in the NH Election Challenge thread about resurrecting the Home Page project. I think it was Bob, (not sure) that commented that the focus of the birfer challenge may come down to the 2-citizen parent thing if they fail on proving that Obama was not born in Hawaii, which of course they will. I looked at the home page and didn’t find any references to official conformation of Obama’s Hawaiian birth, or the citizenship laws. Soooo, I searched the intertubes to find this info to add to the project as well. Here’s what I found (with links). I hope it will be helpful, (and not already done somewhere I did see it.)U.S. Citizenship LawsAmendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.United States Code: Title 8, 1401 Nationals and citizens of United States at birth[/break1]law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html]http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birthThe following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof(No mention of parental citizenship requirements)From the Yale Law journal[/break1]org/images/pdfs/pryor_note.pdf]http://yalelawjournal.org/images/pdfs/pryor_note.pdf“Natural Born Citizen Clause and Presidential Eligibility: An Approach for Resolving Two Hundred years of Uncertainty”“IV. CONCLUSION If the eligibility of a presidential candidate born outside the territorial United States were challenged under the natural-born citizen clause today, the outcome, based on traditional methods of approaching the clause, would be unpredictable and unsatisfactory. This Note's approach removes the confusion caused by Supreme Court dicta asserting that there are only two classes of citizens, native-born and naturalized. As historical and textual analysis has shown, a citizen may be both "naturalized" and "natural born." Under the naturalized born approach, any person with a right to American citizenship under the Constitution, laws, or treaties of the United States at the time of his or her birth is a natural-born citizen for purposes of presidential eligibility.” Confirmation by the state of Hawaii on Obama’s birthStatement Chiyome Fukino 10/31/08[/break1]gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf]http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdfStatement Chiyome Fukino 7/27/09[/break1]gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf]http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdfHDOH News Release 4/27/11[/break1]gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf]http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/ ... 042711.pdfCitizenship and Duel Citizenship:United States Office of Personnel Management Investigation Service[/break1]opm.gov/extra/investigate/is-01.pdf]http://www.opm.gov/extra/investigate/is-01.pdfPage 7RESOLVING DUAL CITIZENSHIP:1. [highlight=#ffff80]Majority Divestiture: This option allows a person with dual citizenship, upon reaching the age of majority (i.e., age of legal adulthood), to decide which citizenship to keep. Many countries have this provision in their constitution, charter, or in their citizenship laws.[/highlight] This is often used in cases of dual citizenship which arise due to adoption.2. Generational Requirement: This consists of limiting the principle of citizenship by descent (jus sanguinis) to the first or second generations of individuals born and residing abroad.3.[highlight=#ffff80]Registration: In countries where non-native children must be registered at their parent’s country’s consular office shortly after birth, omitting this registration documentation can make it impossible or difficult for the child to later acquire the citizenship of either country.[/highlight]4. Delayed Conferment of Citizenship: Persons, not born in the country where their parents are citizens, can be given the right to acquire their parents’ citizenship upon renunciation of any other citizenship.5. Diplomatic Restrictions: Children of diplomatic representatives are prevented by international law from acquiring the jus solis citizenship of the country in which their parents are serving.6. Restriction By Law: A country may forbid its citizens to become naturalized in a foreign state, except with the original nation’s permission. When permission is granted, the person loses their former citizenship.7. Administrative Option: A country may grant conditional freedom of expatriation and automatically release from its allegiance persons who become naturalized citizens of another country.Page 9UNITED STATESCITIZENSHIP: Citizenship is based upon Title 8 of U.S. Code 1401 - 1409, dated 1986._[highlight=#ffff80]BY BIRTH: Child born within the territory of the United States, regardless of the citizenship of the parents.[/highlight]_ BY DESCENT:_ Child born abroad, both of whose parents are citizens of the United States, and one of whom resided in the United States before the birth of the child._ [highlight=#ffff80]Child born abroad, one of whose parents is a citizen of the United States who resided in the United States for at least five years before the birth of the child.[/highlight]_ BY NATURALIZATION: United States citizenship may be acquired upon fulfillment of the following conditions:_ Person must be 18 years old, have resided in the United States for at least five years as a lawful permanent resident, be able to speak, read, and write English, be of good moral character, be familiar with the history and culture of the country, be attached to the principles of the United States Constitution, and have renounced former citizenship._ Foreign citizens who marry citizens of the United States need only reside in the United States for three years, but must still fulfill the other conditions._ OTHER: Certain provisions for granting citizenship have been extended to persons who have performed specific military service to this country. For more information, contact the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service.DUAL CITIZENSHIP: RECOGNIZEDBased on the U.S. Department of State regulation on dual citizenship (7 FM 1162), the Supreme Court of the United States has stated that dual citizenship is a “status long recognized in the law” and that “a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both. The mere fact he asserts the rights of one citizenship does not without more mean that he renounces the other,” (Kawakita v. U.S., 343 U.S. 717) (1952).The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) does not define dual citizenship or take a position for it or against it. There has been no prohibition against dual citizenship, but some provisions of the INA and earlier U.S. nationality laws were designed to reduce situations in which dual citizenship exists. [highlight=#ffff80]United States law does not contain any provisions requiring U.S. citizens who are born with dual citizenship or who acquire a second citizenship at an early age to choose one or the other when they become adults (Mandeli v. Acheson, 344 U.S. 133) (1952[/highlight]). The current citizenship laws of the United States do not specifically refer to dual citizenship. While recognizing the existence of dual citizenship and permitting Ame
ricans to have other citizenships, the U.S. Government does not endorse dual citizenship as a matter of policy because of the problems that it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual-national U.S. citizens often place them in situations where their obligations to one country are in conflict with the laws of the other.Page 10LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP:_ VOLUNTARY: [highlight=#ffff80]Voluntary renunciation of United States citizenship is permitted by law. However, renunciation can only be made at a U.S. Consulate outside the United States.[/highlight]_ INVOLUNTARY: The following are grounds for involuntary loss of United States citizenship:_ Person commits treason against the United States._ Person takes an oath of allegiance to a foreign state._ Person joins the armed forces of a country at war with the U.S.Page 208UNITED KINGDOMUNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND;(ENGLAND, WALES, SCOTLAND, AND NORTHERN IRELAND)[“British” refers to “of the United Kingdom”]CITIZENSHIP: Nationality is regulated by the British Nationality Act of 1984.Due to Great Britain's historic relationship with its former colonies and the British Commonwealth, certain groups of peoples fall into special categories. Citizenship requirements and special considerations for these groups are frequently different than for those considered to be foreign nationals and, to a degree, are different from category to category. Persons included in these special categories are:_ British Dependent Territories Citizens_ British Overseas Citizens_ British Subjects_ British Protected Persons_ Commonwealth Citizens_ Citizens of the Republic of Ireland.After January 1, 1983, the following qualify for British citizenship:_ BY BIRTH:_ Child born in the United Kingdom, at least one of whose parents is a British citizen or has settled in the United Kingdom._ Child born in the United Kingdom whose parents are unknown._ BY DESCENT:_ Child born overseas to a British citizen if at least one of his parents is a British citizen other than by descent._ Child born overseas to a British citizen in service to the Crown._ [highlight=#ffff80]Child born outside of the United Kingdom with certain family connections (unspecified) tothe United Kingdom[/highlight]._ OTHER:_ Child adopted by Order of the Court of the United Kingdom._ Person registered by the Secretary of State as a British citizen. (Often used for children born abroad to British citizens.)_ SPECIAL CATEGORIES: [highlight=#ffff80]Persons falling into these categories may be registered as British citizens if they have lived in the United Kingdom lawfully for five years; the twelve months preceding the application must be of continuous residence.[/highlight]_ British Overseas Citizen_ British Subject_ British Protected Person_ British Dependent Territory CitizenU.S Nationality Act of 1940[/break1]uwb.edu/guides/usimmigration/54%20stat%201137.pdf]http://library.uwb.edu/guides/usimmigra ... 201137.pdfSee page 2 “Chapter II Nationality at BirthBritish Nationality Act, 1948[/break1]uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm]http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htmPART II CITIZENSHIP OF THE UNITED KINGDOM AND COLONIES. Citizenship by birth or descent. Citizenship by birth.4. Subject to the provisions of this section, every person born within the United Kingdom and Colonies after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by birth: Provided that a person shall not be such a citizen by virtue of this section if at the time of his birth— (a) his father possesses such immunity from suit and legal process as is accorded to an envoy of a foreign sovereign power accredited to His Majesty, and is not a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies; or (b) his father is an enemy alien and the birth occurs in a place then under occupation by the enemy.Citizenship by descent.[highlight=#ffff80]5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:[/highlight] Provided that if the father of such a person is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent only, that person shall not be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by virtue of this section unless— (a) that person is born or his father was born in a protectorate, protected state, mandated territory or trust territory or any place in a foreign country where by treaty, capitulation, grant, usage, sufferance, or other lawful means, His Majesty then has or had jurisdiction over British subjects; or[highlight=#ffff80](b) that person's birth having occurred in a place in a foreign country other than a place such as is mentioned in the last foregoing paragraph, the birth is registered at a United Kingdom consulate within one year of its occurrence, or, with the permission of the Secretary of State, later[/highlight]; or (c) that person's father is, at the time of the birth, in Crown service under His Majesty's government in the United Kingdom; or (d) that person is born in any country mentioned in subsection (3) of section one of this Act in which a citizenship law has then taken effect and does not become a citizen thereof on birth. 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Postby Sterngard Friegen » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:14 pm

No need to reinvent the wheel. United States v. Wong Kim Ark basically handles all of the issues, resolves to jus soli and even has a dissent that says that the result couldn't possibly have been the intent of the Founders because it allows those of Mongolian descent whose parents were just passing through to become President.

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Postby MsDaisy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:24 pm

True Stern but wif birfers you haz to draw pictures and point.

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Postby Whatever4 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:27 pm

Nice! I'll put it up in the next few days. Thanks. We basically stopped when the LFBC came out, because people told us that Obot Life as we knew it was over. Birthers would be gone, etc. etc. That's why there's not much on the LFBC. But it's time to update.

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Postby Foggy » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:26 am

You might find it useful to review/adapt Poutine's "Birtherism in a Nutshell" page on the Wiki.Link to the Wiki is at the bottom of every page on Fogbow; link to Birtherism in a Nutshell on the home page of the wiki.
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Postby realist » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:59 am

I dunno if you have this one already, W4, but...





[link]From The Daily Caller,http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/03/harvard-law-classmate-law-review-colleague-remembered-obama-in-2008-a-pretty-cold-fish/[/link]





June 4, 2012





In 2008, Harvard Law classmate, law review colleague remembered Obama as ‘a pretty cold fish’






While details from President Barack Obama’s college years are scant, with the exception of a few acquaintances’ recollections, in 2008 one of his Harvard Law classmates offered a few seldom-heard remembrances of the president’s time at Harvard.





Conservative commentator Carol Platt Liebau, author of “Prude: How the Sex-Obsessed Culture Damages Girls (and America, Too!),” guest hosted Hugh Hewitt’s February 22, 2008 radio show and described her relationship with Obama during her law school years. Despite his liberal slant, she said Obama was respectful of the conservative perspective when he was president of the Harvard Law Review.





“I knew him reasonably well — as well as most people knew him, if not better — because quite in contrast to this image that Barack tries to project, as someone who is warm and all-embracing and all that kind of stuff,” Liebau said.





“I mean, I will tell you I’ve written a piece that has praised Barack for certain things and I stand by that piece: He was color-blind in the way he chose, staffed the law review when he was president. He did give both sides a fair hearing. He always went with the far-left side, but he did give both sides a respectful hearing, which was fairly atypical at Harvard Law School at that time.”

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Postby SueDB » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:29 pm

Does anyone have free access to this doc? [/break1]jstor.org/pss/40574458]http://www.jstor.org/pss/40574458

Got this far....

Abstract:Because the presidential qualifications clause was not debated at the Constitutional Convention, scholars have despaired of knowing why the framers stipulated that the president must be a natural-born citizen who has resided in the United States for at least 14 years and reached the age of 35. A synoptic study of the Constitution-writing process, however, suggests explanations both for why the framers stated any qualifications at all for president and why they selected the qualifications they did.

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Postby CatMe » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:09 pm

Here are several new photos of young President Obama that were posted online. If no one in Hawaii remembers him, maybe they did not hang out at the beach enough![/break1]buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/29-photos-of-baby-barack-obama]http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski ... rack-obama

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Postby Whatever4 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:06 pm

Here are several new photos of young President Obama that were posted online. If no one in Hawaii remembers him, maybe they did not hang out at the beach enough![/break1]buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/29-photos-of-baby-barack-obama]http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski ... rack-obama

Thanks! Putting them up now.

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Postby verbalobe » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:52 am

1. W4 RAWKS!








2. Fogbow rocks. Case in point:





I checked out the Home Pages, and noticed that under Birther claims debunked > Cast and crew > Military birthers > Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, the page is empty. What a shame, I thought -- the Lakin scamsters have been kind of quiet, but that one really deserves a page. So, I thought, I'll draft one up. There are only four Lakin threads (though the biggest one is 316 pages) -- it would be time-consuming but not hard to just go through it chronologically and assemble the basics, checking links as I go.





So I started -- barely. Here's my point:





On [/break1]thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3672&p=124599]PAGE ONE of the main Lakin thread, here's what I learned:


[*:5non0ibv]Mimi discovered him (natch), via the first SafeguardOurConstitution youtube


[*:5non0ibv]There's his military bio


[*:5non0ibv]There's a link to the 'timeline of his concerns regarding CinC'


[*:5non0ibv]There are pointed questions as to who is backing him, the professionalism of the web site, the fact that it all points toward fundraising, and about its IRS status


[*:5non0ibv]There are pointed questions about the GOP involvement, involvement of WCJ, and Dogbite Jensen is mentioned


[*:5non0ibv]Lakin's own birth certificate is analyzed, and it's noted that if it were Obama's it wouldn't fly with birthers


[*:5non0ibv]Lakin's issue (obeying orders) is analyzed; PatGund among others points out that he was getting answers, he just wasn't liking the answers he was getting


[*:5non0ibv]Stern predicts:


No military judge nor detailed defense counsel (a JAG officer) would question the legitimacy of the convening authority or the CIC (the ultimate convening authority). Thus, the issue of President Obama's legitimacy will never come up. It's similar to "lack of standing" in the civilian courts.





What Lakin will probably do is hire private defense counel. Private defense counsel will be ruled out of order when he (or she -- Taitz?) seeks to question the legitimacy of the chain of command.

[*:5non0ibv]Realist predicts:


He created his own mess. He violated lawful orders over ridiculous claims. He is a disgrace to the uniform, he should be court-martialed, reduced in rank, sentenced to some jail time, and (if it's part of the remedies in this situation according to the UCMJ) lose his pension.





The man just tossed a career away, either way.

[/list]That's it. Practically no need to read the remaining 315 pages.





Did I mention Fogbow rocks?





[edit]W4, I'll still draft up a page for you :D [/edit]

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Postby MaineSkeptic » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:12 am

PatGund among others points out that he was getting answers, he just wasn't liking the answers he was getting

I've actually been thinking about this recently, and wondering if we ever got the documentation involving the back-and-forth as he went up the chain of command trying to get his questions answered.

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Postby Whatever4 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:57 am

2. Fogbow rocks. Did I mention Fogbow rocks?[edit]W4, I'll still draft up a page for you :D [/edit]

Thank you! :xo :xo Now if everybody just picked one person each and did that, it would be awesome. (I actually don't write much myself, I copy form the threads.) There's pie...[link]Here's what BadFiction has:,http://badfiction.typepad.com/badfiction/cast-of-characters.html[/link]

Dr. Terrance Lakin - ex-US Army Lt.Col, Military Doctor turned Ex-inmate, appeared on the scene in March of 2010 with a slick site and a claim that he plans to refuse deployment or all military orders until Obama shows him a birth certificate. Ended up missing deployment. Parents have gone on record as being Obama supporters. Former spokesperson was Margaret Hemenway, birther writer and daughter in law of birther attorney John D. Hemenway. Separated from them and got a real military law attorney in an attempt to escape court-martial charges. Didn't work, he was court-martialed in December of 2010. Six months confinement, loss of pay and pension, and dismissal from service. Released in May 2011 after serving five months of his sentence. Remained in the military under UCMJ during his appeals process, was not paid, promoted, or assigned during that period. Formally dismissed in November of 2011, has lost the right to be called by his former rank as a result.

Did I mention PatGund is letting me steal from his Cast of Characters page? My plan is to use his witty mini-bios (where no one is born in Kenya), then link off to the major players. Also linking in blogger's takes, like Loren's excoriation of Pollarik. Army pie for Verbie! [imgwidth=250]http://www.burnpit.us/wp-contentsrc="http://thefogbow.com/forum/uploads/2010/07/Pie.jpg[/imgwidth]


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For you linking pleasure, four new claims debunked. Please send me any links you may have to stuff that would fit here, (like your blog postings on the topics), edits, egregiouss mispleings, comments, etc.[/break1]thefogbow.com/birther-claims-debunked1/other-stuff/]http://www.thefogbow.com/birther-claims ... her-stuff/[*:cgylmtag]Executive Order #12489[*:cgylmtag]Publicist Bio says Born in Kenya[*:cgylmtag]I'm not running for President, I'm running to be Senator": The Obama-Keyes Senate Debate[*:cgylmtag]AP Declares Obama "Kenyan-born"!]What non-birth certificate claim should be next? As usual, pie for good works.[edit]Check them out, there may be tidbits that are new to even the old hats. I'm trying for comprehensiveness.[/edit]

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Postby verbalobe » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:31 pm

PatGund among others points out that he was getting answers, he just wasn't liking the answers he was getting

I've actually been thinking about this recently, and wondering if we ever got the documentation involving the back-and-forth as he went up the chain of command trying to get his questions answered.

All I have found so far. I'm working on the Home Page.If someone wants to grab these and host them somewhere friendly, in case safeguard scrubs them or dies, I'd be much obliged.Lakin's version of timeline leading up: [/break1]safeguardourconstitution.com/images/stories/documents/apf03-lakintimelineofconcern.pdf]http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com ... oncern.pdfJuly 13 2009 - Reply to Congressman Wamp from Kelby Mowery, Capt US Army([/break1]safeguardourconstitution.com/images/stories/documents/apf04-lakinfinalcongressionalresponse.pdf]http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com ... sponse.pdf)Nov 20, 2009 - Complaint of Wrongs under Article 138filed by Lakin against General Casey([/break1]safeguardourconstitution.com/images/stories/documents/apf05-ucmjarticle138nov16.pdf]http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com ... 8nov16.pdf)Dec 11, 2009 -- Reply to Lakin from JAG (Army)([/break1]safeguardourconstitution.com/images/stories/documents/apf06-jagletter0717_001.pdf]http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com ... 17_001.pdf)[edit]One more: [/break1]safeguardourconstitution.org/images/stories/alerts/courtmartialdocweb.jpg]http://www.safeguardourconstitution.org ... docweb.jpg (IMAGE)[/edit]

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Postby verbalobe » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:16 pm

I've posted an [/break1]thefogbow.com/birther-claims-debunked1/birther-cast-and-crew/military-birthers/lt-col-terry-lakin/]Overview for Lakin. I'd be happy for feedback.There's a TON of material to edit down for additional sections. The planned outline is on the sidebar.

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Postby Whatever4 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:04 pm

I've posted an [/break1]thefogbow.com/birther-claims-debunked1/birther-cast-and-crew/military-birthers/lt-col-terry-lakin/]Overview for Lakin. I'd be happy for feedback.There's a TON of material to edit down for additional sections. The planned outline is on the sidebar.

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