Corsi's "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

June bug · **Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:47 pm

Tink wrote:

<----------------- Stands in total awe of your greatness.

You're cute too, so that's a bonus.

^^^^^^^^^ This! +1!

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3897

Southern Poverty Law Center: Birther King Corsi Again Accused of Plagiarism

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/0 ... lagiarism/

Epectitus · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:55 pm **Posts:** 2359

Loren wrote:

Southern Poverty Law Center: Birther King Corsi Again Accused of Plagiarism

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/0 ... lagiarism/

Well done, Loren.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23562

Loren wrote:

Southern Poverty Law Center: Birther King Corsi Again Accused of Plagiarism

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/0 ... lagiarism/

Adelante · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:03 pm

Good job, Loren =D>

June bug · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:08 pm

Nice work, Loren.

Here's a great comment from the SPLC article:

Quote:

Ryan said,

on January 4th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

Dear America,

Please understand and accept these three simple and incontrovertible facts about Obama:

1) He is NOT a Kenyan;
2) He is NOT a Muslim, and most obvious of all;
3) HE IS NOT A DAMN SOCIALIST.

Signed,
Europe.

mimi · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:19 pm

Congratulations, Loren! :-bd

Plutodog · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:30 pm

mimi wrote:

Congratulations, Loren! :-bd

Yeah, what she said! I wonder of Corsi's looking for hitmen? :lol:

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3897

Plutodog wrote:

Yeah, what she said! I wonder of Corsi's looking for hitmen? :lol:

Y'know, it's been *months* since his hard-hitting exposes on Epictetus, rikker, and Jim Johnso...I mean, Foggy.

You think he'd be anxious to do another installment, and go after someone who's actually done some damage.

Given the Jim Johnson fiasco, though, he'd probably try to claim that the whole 'public ID' thing is just a feint, and I'm secretly, I dunno, Dave Weigel.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3897

bob wrote:

A Legal Lohengrin wrote:

Loren wrote:

Hmmm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Cor ... plagiarism

Shouldn't that be 'Accusations of plagiarism' now? If only someone were able to add information to Wikipedia...

Needs more secondary sources. Wikipedia doesn't do "original research."

Wikipedia has a reliable sources policy. (This frustrates birthers to no end, who complain when their fact-free edits are undone.) I'm not sure if any of the sources that picked up the story thus far are sufficiently reliable.

Hey now, it looks like Wikipedia considers the Southern Poverty Law Center to be a sufficiently reliable secondary source...

mimi · **Posted:** Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:17 am

Can somebody please edit the wikipedia. I don't know how! :oops:

bob · **Posted:** Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:40 am

Loren wrote:

Hey now, it looks like Wikipedia considers the Southern Poverty Law Center to be a sufficiently reliable secondary source...

From my wikipedia experience

, I found that SPLC cites tend to trigger edit wars.

But I do appreciate that Loren won't do it himself, as that would violate another wikipedia policy.

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9377

bob wrote:

Loren wrote:

Hey now, it looks like Wikipedia considers the Southern Poverty Law Center to be a sufficiently reliable secondary source...

From my wikipedia experience

, I found that SPLC cites tend to trigger edit wars.

But I do appreciate that Loren won't do it himself, as that would violate another wikipedia policy.

I'm contemplating triggering an edit war. However, this may yet escape into unquestionable secondary sources. Let's give it a couple days.

obot 1024 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:25 pm **Posts:** 638

Loren wrote:

Given the Jim Johnson fiasco, though, he'd probably try to claim that the whole 'public ID' thing is just a feint, and I'm secretly, I dunno, Dave Weigel.

I enjoy your writing and think you could pass for Charlie Sheen's younger brother

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3897

It's been eight months since Corsi's book came out. No total sales figures seem to be available, unfortunately.

I did hear Corsi on one radio show claim that the book had sold 75,000 copies. I was curious how probable that is.

Corsi's "Obama Nation" debuted at #1 in 2008, and reportedly sold some 21,466 that week. As the top-selling book in the country. The same month Obama was nominated for the Presidency. WTBC debuted at #6, fell to #14 the following week, and then dropped off the chart entirely.

So while we may not have a concrete number, I really don't think this supports the notion that 75,000 people have Corsi's new book in their homes.

BFB · **Posted:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:04 pm

Loren wrote:

It's been eight months since Corsi's book came out. No total sales figures seem to be available, unfortunately.

I did hear Corsi on one radio show claim that the book had sold 75,000 copies. I was curious how probable that is.

Corsi's "Obama Nation" debuted at #1 in 2008, and reportedly sold some 21,466 that week. As the top-selling book in the country. The same month Obama was nominated for the Presidency. WTBC debuted at #6, fell to #14 the following week, and then dropped off the chart entirely.

So while we may not have a concrete number, I really don't think this supports the notion that 75,000 people have Corsi's new book in their homes.

He may be counting bulk sales, the majority of which are no doubt collecting dust in the storerooms of RWNJ organizations around the country.

SueDB · **Posted:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:45 pm

Loren wrote:

So while we may not have a concrete number, I really don't think this supports the notion that 75,000 people have Corsi's new book in their homes

No one ever said that they were in 75K different locations...Prolly has 75K stacked in boxes in his basement - a private residence (and a couple of neighbors).

Bob Ross · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:29 pm

Maybe I missed the post but I was on amazon and lost my link to the Corsi book thread so I had to search by Jerome Corsi and found this steaming pile of crap

http://www.amazon.com/Saul-Alinsky-Geni ... 780&sr=8-1

mimi · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:35 pm

Bob Ross wrote:

Maybe I missed the post but I was on amazon and lost my link to the Corsi book thread so I had to search by Jerome Corsi and found this steaming pile of crap

http://www.amazon.com/Saul-Alinsky-Geni ... 780&sr=8-1

Five Reviews? And the one reviewer gave 5 stars but says s/he hasn't read it yet. :lol:

Mikedunford · **Posted:** Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:07 am

Bob Ross wrote:

Maybe I missed the post but I was on amazon and lost my link to the Corsi book thread so I had to search by Jerome Corsi and found this steaming pile of crap

http://www.amazon.com/Saul-Alinsky-Geni ... 780&sr=8-1

It's a very recent direct-to-kindle release. He couldn't even get WND to print and promote then thing. =))

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3897

Actual, I'm-not-kidding quote from "Where's the REAL Birth Certificate":

Corsi wrote:

WND has reported that a prominent Democrat, apparently operating with the full approval and cooperation of the president, has directed a team of up to one hundred who are paid to publish disinformation on a wide variety of Web sites to attack and discredit “birthers.”

The Obots have stated that their White House-appointed ring leader is Democratic Party operative James A. Johnson, the former chairman of Fannie Mae, who has posted on various Obot Web sites under the username “JimBot.”

verbalobe · **Posted:** Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:22 pm

Well, it's true.

WND did report that.

So Corsi reported that Corsi reported.... That's some fine journalism.

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5251

It really must stick in their jaw that they are hammered every time by people who do this as a hobby. :mrgreen:

ObjectiveDoubter · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:12 pm

Loren wrote:

Actual, I'm-not-kidding quote from "Where's the REAL Birth Certificate":

Corsi wrote:

WND has reported that a prominent Democrat, apparently operating with the full approval and cooperation of the president, has directed a team of up to one hundred who are paid to publish disinformation on a wide variety of Web sites to attack and discredit “birthers.”

The Obots have stated that their White House-appointed ring leader is Democratic Party operative James A. Johnson, the former chairman of Fannie Mae, who has posted on various Obot Web sites under the username “JimBot.”

What a ridiculous notion! Why would Obama need anyone to discredit the birthers who manage to look like the loonies they are quite well on their own!

AnitaMaria · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm **Posts:** 2116

For Fogbow newbies: See here for the story of Jimbot. Corsi got punked by Foggy and is apparently not grown-up enough to admit it so he is repeating the ridiculous story.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

Corsi's "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

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