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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:33 am 
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I didn't see this in the thread (but didn't read all pages carefully). It seems he had all kinds of frivolous cases against Clinton in the 90s.. seems to be a pattern...

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I'd be honored to co-sign your letter when you finish it, Britty. :hug:



As would i, since i also am a licensed NC atty.


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You know that is kind of weird, and I mean spooky kind of weird in that the guy in that photo looks like a younger version of the only registered sex offender with the name Vestal on the NC Sex Offenders Registry. BRB

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/details.aspx?SRN=009608S9

I know I am being paranoid, (not if they are really out to get me! LOL)


How about this for spooky weird :shock:

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The name is not uncommon. There are at least 3 people named Daniel Vestal in North Carolina. Let's be careful out there...


Particularly with subject matter like this, it is vital never to use simply a name as an identifier. Even if a name is truly unusual, name collisions are very common. I have lost count over the years of the times I've run into some truly strange name then found there are 20 or more people named that. My own name is not unusual and I was once arrested as being someone of the same name. Only upon encountering a police officer at the police station who had been a family friend for 20 years and asking him "please tell these idiots who I am" was I released.

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The name is not uncommon. There are at least 3 people named Daniel Vestal in North Carolina. Let's be careful out there...


Particularly with subject matter like this, it is vital never to use simply a name as an identifier. Even if a name is truly unusual, name collisions are very common. I have lost count over the years of the times I've run into some truly strange name then found there are 20 or more people named that. My own name is not unusual and I was once arrested as being someone of the same name. Only upon encountering a police officer at the police station who had been a family friend for 20 years and asking him "please tell these idiots who I am" was I released.


This isn't even off-topic, in a general sense. This is something Orly has never been able to grasp. Similar name = same person! She probably thinks Mr. Rogers used to sing about knowing when to hold 'em, knowing when to fold 'em, while folding(!) up his cardigan and getting ready to talk to the puppets.

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This isn't even off-topic, in a general sense. This is something Orly has never been able to grasp. Similar name = same person! She probably thinks Mr. Rogers used to sing about knowing when to hold 'em, knowing when to fold 'em, while folding(!) up his cardigan and getting ready to talk to the puppets.


...while dancing backward in high heels in hold (!) with Fred Astaire. :mrgreen:

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Almost as disturbing as the fact he's a convicted rapist, is that he also seems to be a virulent anti-semite.

http://www.buenavistamall.com/PressRelease.htm

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"Obama is a Usurper, Supreme War Criminal, Forger, Fraud, Thief, Pathological Liar, Wall Street Stooge, Zionist Lickspittle, National Socialist, Fascist, Nazi and above all, Mass Murderer / Maimer, Torturer. Obama = Hitler.


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Zionist Jews / Nazis control the US Government / Media and other major US corporations and organizations. I fear the US is going down the same path on which Hitler and the Zionists led Germany and we know what happened to Germany. Obama and his regime are Zionist Nazi puppets as were G.W. Bush and his father."


And yet Dr. Orly, former delegate to AIPAC, has no problem metaphorically getting into bed with this guy. I guess her hatred of Obama trumps even her own religion.

Though, come to think of it, her hatred of Obama has BECOME her religion.

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Though, come to think of it, her hatred of Obama has BECOME her religion.

I think that's it, and if she finds a fellow "co-religionist," she has no interest in looking further.

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Almost as disturbing as the fact he's a convicted rapist, is that he also seems to be a virulent anti-semite.
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Though, come to think of it, her hatred of Obama has BECOME her religion.


Maybe The Obly is a Zionist Lickspittle plant ... intentionally losing cases and degrading the True Birther message.

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Though, come to think of it, her hatred of Obama has BECOME her religion.


I have yet to see any evidence Orly is a Jew, an American, or anyone else who belongs in this country.

The only things she's publicly said about Jewish culture, she was wrong about. She has no grasp of the American Constitution either, despite claiming to be a "decedent" lawyer.

I think she should be deported to back where she came from, since she obviously hates this country.

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Though, come to think of it, her hatred of Obama has BECOME her religion.


I have yet to see any evidence Orly is a Jew, an American, or anyone else who belongs in this country.

The only things she's publicly said about Jewish culture, she was wrong about. She has no grasp of the American Constitution either, despite claiming to be a "decedent" lawyer.

I think she should be deported to back where she came from, since she obviously hates this country.


IIRC, she can only be deported (assuming she really does have naturalization papers somewhere lost in her mansion) if it can be shown that she committed fraud or forgery or perjury in her application process and thus invalidating the documents. Perhaps she is afraid of being discovered. That could explain her obsession with BC's, SS#'s and fraud and forgery.

I thought it was interesting that in the latest LaFrance produced video, she answered that she was born in the Soviet Union but did not mention SSR she was born in. Later when LaFrance mentioned it was Russia, she did not correct him. Of course, she may have given up on Americans knowing the difference, but I think most immigrants like to point out the difference. The Ukrainians I know would never ever let anyone get away with confusing them with Russians. Certainly not the Azerbajanis.

For hating America, I am afraid the only solution is to convict her of treason and send her into exile.

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I'd be honored to co-sign your letter when you finish it, Britty. :hug:



As would i, since i also am a licensed NC atty.


Welcome to Fogbow! If I may be so bold, wouldn't two letters have more impact than one co-signed by several folks? I hope you consider sending your own.




Agreed, it did seem better to have separate letters. So, i fired off email to Mr. Johnson (who is a good guy by the way) as well, expressly similar sentiments. Be interesting if anything comes of it.

By the way, South Carolina and their Supreme Court are VERY proprietary when it comes to out of state atty's doing anything there. So, she could be in for a rude awakening if she makes a similar move in the southern version of the Carolinas.


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I was intrigued by Danny Vestal's email "buenavistamall@gmail.com" so I've been doing a bit of googling and it all got rather intriguing. You'd think from the name that it was a shopping mall and indeed it appears in a number of directories as such (including at least one with Danny Vestal as contact) but digging deeper I arrived at :

http://buenavistamall.com/us.htm

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We are an activist music company involved with getting broad publication of "The Truth about God", ending the war, abolition of death penalty, free universal healthcare, stopping - big money control of the media / corporate corruption and we are working for a fair music market. Also, we only wish to market the best music available with emphasis on intelligent lyrics and betterment of society.


All sounds very "Liberal" but a clicking around the site I came to a "press release" that included mention of the challenge , lots of birther and lots of other cut and paste. Googling the website address turned up 172 results most which didn't seem be linked to the main site. they included a variety of birther, anti-Obama, anti-Biden, anti-vaccine, anti-war and goodness knows what other stuff. One interesting result was a profile of "Danny" written as if for a dating site. If this Danny Vestal is the convicted rapist then it makes very odd and disturbing reading.



http://buenavistamall.com/Profile.htm

PS he has PayPal button (don't they all)

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Don't think its him WD our Danny the rapist is 62


Vestal is a very common name in the South. I don't think he is the one, either.


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Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:
No the spooky part is that the last name is unusual, what are the chances that the rapists son is also a child molester? The registered offender has a DOB of 3-6-71, also in the same location, Davidson County.


Hmmm. I lived in Wilkesboro for 2+ years and worked in Winston-Salem; every other person i met was a Vestal, including my closest friend during those days (1988-1990). In fact, I had never heard that name before -- or Faw or Mabe or a few others I have forgotten -- but they seemed to be everywhere!


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Though, come to think of it, her hatred of Obama has BECOME her religion.


I have yet to see any evidence Orly is a Jew, an American, or anyone else who belongs in this country.

The only things she's publicly said about Jewish culture, she was wrong about. She has no grasp of the American Constitution either, despite claiming to be a "decedent" lawyer.

I think she should be deported to back where she came from, since she obviously hates this country.



I think she is Orthodox, no? That explains her unfortunate explanations of Jewish culture, as her POV is held by a small -- and mostly intolerant -- minority, less than 5 percent. My mom used to tell me that Jews have as much right to count among ourselves fools, thieves and idiots, as any group, without it tarnishing us all. Nonetheless, I rejoice that she is so stupid as to embrace the cause of a Jew-hater!


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I think she is Orthodox, no? That explains her unfortunate explanations of Jewish culture, as her POV is held by a small -- and mostly intolerant -- minority, less than 5 percent. My mom used to tell me that Jews have as much right to count among ourselves fools, thieves and idiots, as any group, without it tarnishing us all. Nonetheless, I rejoice that she is so stupid as to embrace the cause of a Jew-hater!

The only evidence that I have seen that Orly Taitz is a practicing Jew is that she sent her boys to Tarbut v'Torah Day School and then nearly destroyed that school and its community with (what might be) the first of her screaming fits.

The fact that she came here from Israel proves nothing about whether she is a practicing Jew or not. Nor does the fact that she had or has some association with Avigdor Lieberman and his Yisrael Beiteinu political party. I see nothing in the party's platform and little in its behavior that I would not expect to find in a racist, xenophobic political party of, say, the Hindu religion. Trying to strengthen the Chief Rabbinate and restrict the Law of Return were not religious acts; they were political acts designed to keep out people that Lieberman deems unworthy, including people who had converted to Judaism.

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... she sent her boys to Tarbut v'Torah Day School ...


Because it's Orly I always read that as Tarbut v. Torah.

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Maybe someone wondered already why I always speak of "Mrs.Taitz" when most people here just say "Orly". I only try to keep some distance. I might even say "Frau Zahnwältin Dr. Svetlana Auerbuch AKA Dr. Orly Taitz ESQ."


This isn't aimed specifically at you, Zorbas, and maybe someone's explained it before and I've just forgotten it (but I also didn't find anything on search that really explained it so that I understood) - but how is it that we seem to know her first name was really Svetlana and not Orly? Is there a record of this somewhere, or is it more that we're making an assumption based on some biographical data (which - IMO, anyway - wouldn't be all that different than the birthers who insist on calling Obama "Soetoro" - YMMV)?

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How about this for spooky weird :shock:


Don't do that to poor Bubbles!!!!!

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I think she is Orthodox, no?


I don't think Orthodox women run around in sleeveless dresses or short skirts, so, no.

(P.K., shiksa married to the world's least observant Jew.)

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Welcome, LowRent!

One needs only to point to the Carolinas' neighbor to the south as an example of La Taitz's abuse of the subpoena process after she was granted pro hac vice privileges by an administrative agency.

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Just to let you know I have heard back from the NC State Bar. I have pm'd the Rooster and asked him to distribute the response among the herd in a PM. I do not want to post their response on this board as we well know Orly reads and some of her FMs are members.

FWIW I agree with their position at this time. Napolean was a wise man. :-

PS) I know the Rooster has been not feeling well of late so if you wish to receive the response sooner please pm me.

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Just to let you know I have heard back from the NC State Bar. I have pm'd the Rooster and asked him to distribute the response among the herd in a PM. I do not want to post their response on this board as we well know Orly reads and some of her FMs are members.

FWIW I agree with their position at this time. Napolean was a wise man. :-

PS) I know the Rooster has been not feeling well of late so if you wish to receive the response sooner please pm me.


I got a happy just imagining Orly's frustration upon reading your post. Well done! =D> =))

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Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:
I have pm'd the Rooster and asked him to distribute the response among the herd in a PM. I do not want to post their response on this board as we well know Orly reads and some of her FMs are members.


But we DO have herd critters who report back to The Obly ... so a PM will get to her just a little later than usual. Probably better just to keep it under wraps until it's too late for her.

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While I trust the Rooster to know who they are what you say is true. In that case if you wish to see a copy of their response please PM me.

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